Accepting new clones - Azamax preventative recomendations

[SquareDIESEL]

Grabbing some new clones soon from a friend of mine, iv gotten this strain from the person in the past and have gotten some really good results, both in quality and yeild. the only thing is last time i got them there was a tiny bit of pm and maybe a bug or two.

this time id like to get a 5gal bucket fill it with 3-4 gal of water and add azamax to dunk the small dudes in. my question is how strong do i make the solution, do i add the gold range saturator (I would assume yes), do i ph the water and to what (probably not because this is a foliar app and i cant remember ever ph adjusting foliar anything).

I cant afford any problems this go round, im 95% positive i know how to do this the right way, however i thought id ask these questions for the hell of it

 

[SquareDIESEL]

Id like to make sure the solution is strong enough to work yet not too strong to hurt my lil buddies.

Ill post the recommended dosages, in a moment. let me know what yous guys think

 

[SquareDIESEL]

Lower rate ranges of 0.25 - 0.75% vol/vol: (9.5 – 29.6 ml)
Medium rate ranges of 0.75 - 1.25% vol/vol: (29.6 – 47.3 ml)
Upper rate ranges of 1.25 - 1.70% vol/vol (47.3 – 59.1 ml)

I would probably use 30 ml per gallon, its on the higher side of the low range, im not very schooled in azamax and would love to here what yous think.

 

[growingcrazy]

I usually use mine at the medium rates. Is the scale you posted the foliar chart or the soil drench chart?

You could also mix 1-2 tsp bleach in a gallon of water and submerge the plant in that, it will take care of anything there, and not harm the plant at all.

 

[Doobie Nyce]

azamax wont kill pm.... keep it away for a while maybe.

 

[Smelly_Cheese]

as a preventative only i use 10ml per gallon

 

[MIway]

azamax wont kill pm.... keep it away for a while maybe.

and it's not really the most effective for an immediate kill on bugs either.



if dunking... horticultural oil is great... kill all in one shot. still would hit em w a dedicated fungicide as well. easiest to take care of it all right now w they are the smallest... ;-) gl man

 

[opt1c]

if you want to kill pm in clones get some dutch master zone and saturator; 15ml/zone 20ml/saturator per quart... you can use this as a dunk on unrooted clones... the sulfur in the zone kills the pm and the saturator gets it past the cuticle layer... dunk em one time every 3-5 days for 3 weeks; this will kill the pm's life cycle and your cuts won't be any worse for the wear

you can thank mark6699331 for that info he posted up back in '06

 

[purple_man]

high bro!

id recommend using your usual spraying concentration, and adding some saponines. and for the powdery mildew issue, you can spray it or prepare a dipping solution with amistar (or any locally availible product containing strobulinuline analogues).

blessss
ps.: if you aint sure if the concentration is to high, best have a spare clone and "test dip" it a week before the rest, to ensure there aint any negative effects.

 

[SquareDIESEL]

For pm I use green cure. Its always worked so I stick with it. Not my main concern

I'm talking more about the bugs. If there's a bug or two, or even none at all, id still want to give them a dunk as a preventative. Id also like to make sure its enough azamax,
since I havnt used it for long.

 

[SquareDIESEL]

I haven't had much experience with treating bugs from the start. Always been a late cycle or not all thing for me.

Is there a product better than azamax for first day bug treatments??? I'm interested

 

[WillWork4Weed]

half-strength zero tolerance will definitely kill any bugs riding along on those clones. I would be wary of using ONLY azamax on incoming clones since it lacks any real "knock down" power. Still an excellent product as a preventitive and in conjuction with stuff that has "knock down" power.

 

[wildgrow]

I know a guy who swears by systemic treatment w/ azamax. Not sure what ratio he uses it at though. I think he said 1/2. Of course youd have to wait for a good root structure. cheers

 

[SeaMaiden]

and it's not really the most effective for an immediate kill on bugs either.



if dunking... horticultural oil is great... kill all in one shot. still would hit em w a dedicated fungicide as well. easiest to take care of it all right now w they are the smallest... ;-) gl man

Agreed.

I use Physan 20 for many types of treatment and sterilization. It's already developed to do exactly what the OP is after, too. It doesn't require an adjuvant or surfactant, either.

 

[DRorganic]

mix 1 to 1 ratio of gas and water then light .while blowing

 

[SquareDIESEL]

"I use Physan 20 for many types of treatment and sterilization. It's already developed to do exactly what the OP is after, too. It doesn't require an adjuvant or surfactant, either. "

How is this product used, can i mix it up in a 5 gal and use it as a dunk before i transplant?

what stregnth? will it "knock down the bugs"

 

[justalilrowdy]

I use fresh worm castings.. natures cure all. I wouldn't want to smoke a product that has had all the crap mentioned here used on it. That isn't medicine and these fake chemical cures are destroying the planet.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Do you bother to wash your hands with soap and water ever? If so, you can consider this to be along the same lines as that. Disease control and prevention are simply necessary. The techniques I use are techniques I've learned during my years in the aquatic and exotic import/export industry, as well as during my time at a large public aquarium. They may not be 100% organic, but they work, and to think that by simply going organic one will always avoid diseases is... naive. If someone is handling large numbers of organisms, then disease control and prevention is absolutely necessary, lest you become the worst vector of them all.

"I use Physan 20 for many types of treatment and sterilization. It's already developed to do exactly what the OP is after, too. It doesn't require an adjuvant or surfactant, either. "

How is this product used, can i mix it up in a 5 gal and use it as a dunk before i transplant?

what stregnth? will it "knock down the bugs"

Strength is dependent upon what you want to treat (equipment or surfaces that come into contact with live material vs live plant tissue itself), and they have extensive instructions on the label. I will attach a copy of the label, if I can.

 

[Smelly_Cheese]

i said 10ml aza per gallon but i meant 10ml per quart

 

[SquareDIESEL]

"I use fresh worm castings.. natures cure all. I wouldn't want to smoke a product that has had all the crap mentioned here used on it. That isn't medicine and these fake chemical cures are destroying the planet. "


Riight...

First off, using hydro mediums, sorry worm castings. The only "crap" I've ever used was azadirachtin and neem oil, IF anything. Not avid or floramite

The point of this discussion was to have the ducks in a row in case these products were needed from the start, considering this being road not traveled by myself as of yet. As an update, I received my clones there were no immediate problems so nothing has been used and nothing will be used as long as nothing pops up.

And who said anything about medicine anyway?

Little quick to the draw with the overly strong opinions