How do you correct over-fertilizing?

[t33to]

So I'm getting a bit of the dreaded leaf-tip-curl-down. Someone on these forums even warned me that blood-meal was considered a "hot" ingredient and I didn't wait for it to cook. Maybe I'm being punished now for not listening. Oh well, gotta learn everything the hard way I always say lol.

I'm using the follow in LC's Mix #2.

1 tablespoon Blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons Bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
(OPTIONAL) 1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.

 

[FlaDankster]

Just keep giving water.Not a whole lot that can be done now.If it is only from not letting your mix sit and not TO MUCH blood you should be fine.They will grow .

 

[mad librettist]

Compost slurry every watering. Don't fuck up by using unfinished compost.


You could top dress some clay too.

 

[mad librettist]

I forgot to add a powdered cowboy charcoal, or some other pure wood charcoal, or whatever bio char you can get your hands on.

 

[habeeb]

let her ride it out. And do not add anything with any amount of N in it..

 

[mad librettist]

the reason for the compost slurry is to increase CEC to give N a place to go.

the char is to tie up everything

 

[vonforne]

Make sure you rinse the char before you put it into the soil.

Good idea Mad. I have never thought of that before.

V

 

[praisehim.]

genius mad... genius.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Not arguing here just trying to understand.

Will Nitrogen actually attach to cation exchange sites? NO3 probably no...right? NH4 or 3 could theoretically...but does it. You never see Nitrogen listed as part of the base saturation.

I do not have a good enough understanding of the nitrification process to actually understand this.

But yea...more cec is not going to hurt a thing, that is for sure.

 

[mad librettist]

the other thing going on is we are going on someone' s description.

like 90% of the time no matter the problem the answer is compost slurry so if you always suggest it you look smart


I'm not saying it will work because who knows if it even can be fixed in this exact case, but if you over fertilized the thing to do is soak it up.

 

[t33to]

Well I mixed up the mix and the ferts two days ago and transplanted in some ladies that were looking a little pale. I went into my compost pile and picked out about 80 worms of various sizes. Rinsed them off and tossed them into the grow bed.

It's only 3 of the plants that are showing the leaf tip curl down and I guess the bright side of all of this is that I could have spent even less $$ and time on mixing the ferts because I've already over-ferted them. Is that the right mentality here? Am I correct in understanding I could have used less ferts and actually done better? Or is this purely because I didn't let the mix cook down.

I may try that guano thing next, you can't mess up at all with that right?

Ps. Can I just have a fire in my back yard and get carbon out of the ashes? Speaking of which, is ash carbon? or is it something else?

 

[FlaDankster]

Did you follow the recipe?

If you did follow it and used the amounts listed your not to hot.It should have had a chance to cook and simmer down.Blood is hot when not given the chance to sit for a bit.

Mad said a compost slurry...........i'd listen.

 

[t33to]

Did you follow the recipe?

If you did follow it and used the amounts listed your not to hot.It should have had a chance to cook and simmer down.Blood is hot when not given the chance to sit for a bit.

Mad said a compost slurry...........i'd listen.

Alritey, well someone needs to clarify for me what "Compost slurry" is then lol. I do have some EWCT on the brew as we speak, but that won't help will it?

 

[Scrappy4]

Alritey, well someone needs to clarify for me what "Compost slurry" is then lol. I do have some EWCT on the brew as we speak, but that won't help will it?

It's kind of self explanatory, compost and water mixed to a slurry.
EWC is the best compost to use......scrappy

 

[TheyCallMeJJay]

Well I mixed up the mix and the ferts two days ago and transplanted in some ladies that were looking a little pale. I went into my compost pile and picked out about 80 worms of various sizes. Rinsed them off and tossed them into the grow bed.

It's only 3 of the plants that are showing the leaf tip curl down and I guess the bright side of all of this is that I could have spent even less $$ and time on mixing the ferts because I've already over-ferted them. Is that the right mentality here? Am I correct in understanding I could have used less ferts and actually done better? Or is this purely because I didn't let the mix cook down.

I may try that guano thing next, you can't mess up at all with that right?

Ps. Can I just have a fire in my back yard and get carbon out of the ashes? Speaking of which, is ash carbon? or is it something else?

Before you go and do anything, how old are these plants? what is the timeline of events here?

 

[VerdantGreen]

a picture would really help here....

mad do you think topdressing biochar would make much difference to the body of soil ?

 

[headband 707]

You can always try to flush but you might end up overwatering an already stressed plant.. This may not work.... NEVER over fert your plants always lean on the side that less is more...good luck headband 707

 

[mad librettist]

a picture would really help here....

mad do you think topdressing biochar would make much difference to the body of soil ?

I'm not sure it will work.

I just gave a list of things I would try.

 

[h.h.]

If it's a new transplant the perimeter should be root free. Use a prod and prod the char into this area or dare I say DE.

 

[mad librettist]

and btw for the top dressing, that would be fine powder, not chunks