There is going to be a revolution if things keep going the way they are

[mrcreosote]

Great nations are built on investments that come from savings not debt.

Damn, Gramps...

A twofer in one thread...A veritable cornucopia of common sense.

I'll quit while I'm ahead and retire to the Casbah Room and indulge myself with the fruits of my labor.
I wonder if I should answer the door if the knockee is someone who couldn't be bothered doing the work but would like to help themselves to my harvest whilst waving the banner of 'Social Justice'.

It's their right, after all.

 

[GP73LPC]

You are wrong. The majority of our social and economic problems are caused from straying away from the ideas of the founding fathers. They didn't create these philosophies that they know worked. The ancient Greeks created them. Human are the same animal as we were 10,000 years ago. Our brains have not further evolved yet past human. If you brake it down we have the same problems we have always had. Competition for resources, safe and clean environment, food, water, bad leadership with short burst of freedom. We had our short burst, and now people are stupid again. The story is as old as human history.

well said my friend

America will go down as a 'great society' that imploded...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hash Zeppelin again.

 

[GP73LPC]

Being debt free is key to being actually free. otherwise you are just a slave o the system and you have to walk a line.

Hash, my friend, these words are pure polished wisdom.

Why?

Because I follow them myself.

well said, debt free is the only way to live.

after succumbing to the 'debt life style' in my earlier years, i got debt free and have never been happier...

if i don't have the cash, i need to save up. fuck credit (except for a home), i ain't going there no more...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mrcreosote again.

 

[SacredBreh]

Safety nets....... Ooooppps just fell through!

Safety nets....... Ooooppps just fell through!

Triple post sorry..


Peace

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Living in an Orwellian nightmare just outside your local fema camp - good grief.

 

[SacredBreh]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That saying was there with my first handle in 2006 after OG went down. Certainly is more pertinent today....

Glad you found it comment worthy....LMAO

Sorry guys about the triple post.... have no idea how I did that. Shit, now I deleted all...... am scarey with a computer. Hanging my head in shame.

Peace

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

They are concentration camps. the buses in the camps were prison buses. Also they are now blocked out on google maps.

not to mention the drone program is scheduled to have 30,000 drones flying over America at all times by 2020.

 

[StinkyGreen]

Here is an excellent (IMO) short interview of Nicolas Hanauer explaining the issue of how PAC money has turned our democracy into a plutocracy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/86128046/

 

[GP73LPC]

They are concentration camps. the buses in the camps were prison buses. Also they are now blocked out on google maps.

not to mention the drone program is scheduled to have 30,000 drones flying over America at all times by 2020.

got any coordinates or locations on google maps?

i would love to share this with friends and family...

 

[med_breeder]

What if we are wrong?
What if the concentration camps are for captured Chinese or North Korean Soldiers.
What if the drones are for ariel defense of the country?
I don't have top secret clearance. I don't know what they know.

 

[FunkBomb]

What if absolute power corrupts absolutely?

If you have ever read anything about ancient Greece, you'll see what
is happening now as just another chapter in the book of things that
repeat themselves, and probably always will. Sad but true.

-Funk

 

[Still Invisible]

America will go down as a 'great society' that imploded...

And why will it implode? Goes back to the start of this thread; the growing gap between the rich and poor; a small part of the population getting ever richer and the majority of the population getting ever poorer.

 

[SacredBreh]

What if..?

What if..?

What if we are wrong?
What if the concentration camps are for captured Chinese or North Korean Soldiers.
What if the drones are for ariel defense of the country?
I don't have top secret clearance. I don't know what they know.

What if FLIR guns were used in energy conservation instead of illegal searches? What if your mic on your cell phone was use to hold conversations with only people you call? What if you could wire tap only with a writ from a judge? What if we enforced the laws that didn't allow the WTC terrorists to live here and learn to fly air planes here?
Not knocking you med breeder..... just some examples. Never met a law that didn't get abused and over stepped.

Problem is..... if you have it you will use it. Check out how many FEMA camps there are and the capacities and the set ups.

Peace

Peace

 

[med_breeder]

I agree that our govt is corrupt, that being said the business of running the country continues. One's world view also comes with a blind spot.The more I think of the 30,000 drones, the more I feel it's not to kill Americans. There are far better waysto do that. A drone strike on American soil against an American would be political suicide.

On the topic of NDAA, It's public, we know that it exist. The government could just as easily snatch and execute Americans with out having a law. Think of the 1,000s of people that simply go missing every year with out a trace.

There has been and very well may be future false flags. That being said, there are real bad guys out there that mean us harm.

The form of control in America is working so well already, I don't see why the powers that be would change.

The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

 

[SacredBreh]

I absolutely agree med breeder......

I absolutely agree med breeder......



http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_bn3#/video/bestoftv/2012/02/11/exp-jones-domestic-drones.cnn

This is a drone designed for Police as illustrated on CNN tonight as part of a video. It only weighs 5.5lbs. Makes expensive helicopter flights unnecessary and surveillance very affordable especially with funds from DHS.

There are really good reason for FEMA camps too. Like in Katrina there were hundreds of thousands if not over a million people without shelter, supplies, or other necessities. There were documented cases of people dying in make shift shelter centers because of inadequate planning. You have that and then people shooting at rescue workers and such as well as looting and it all makes for bad situations for everyone.

Problem comes in when all this planning and building sits there waiting for an event and people start thinking about making it pay for itself. Work camps, work release, for profit prisons, undesirables, homeless, addicted..... everyone has someone that "would be better taken care of that way".

It will all make great sense like NDAA and all the executive orders.... but then as time goes on and boundaries get tested and if times get worse...... The reason the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written in the first place was because those that wrote them had already traveled this road and learned from history where it always leads.

Peace

I know I am preaching to the choir but there are some folks out there that don't see it coming. I wish I didn't in a way.

 

[Stoner4Life]

lex Jones & jesse

lex Jones & jesse

What if FLIR guns were used in energy conservation instead of illegal searches? What if your mic on your cell phone was use to hold conversations with only people you call? What if you could wire tap only with a writ from a judge? What if we enforced the laws that didn't allow the WTC terrorists to live here and learn to fly air planes here?
Not knocking you med breeder..... just some examples. Never met a law that didn't get abused and over stepped.

Problem is..... if you have it you will use it. Check out how many FEMA camps there are and the capacities and the set ups.

Peace

Peace

Alex Jones & Jesse Ventura covered this thoroughly, the only problem here is that they're both idiots, no matter what Jones & Ventura say, I go the other way.......

 

[SacredBreh]

Don't know Lex Jones and agree with the Jesse thing.

One thing I do know really well and won't go into why I know. If you build jails or hospitals bigger, they fill up. When you don't have jobs.... it creates them. The Vice President of the US is on record as being for a mandatory 2 year service obligation like Israel has... not necessarily military like Israel. Can give references if needed.

Not saying it is going to happen tomorrow...... How many terrorists have we caught or plans thwarted...... for investments of Billions. Trillions if you count the wars.... and if you think that actually stopped any attacks on the "Homeland".

Just saying when this shit got underway big time in 2008.... all the world was scrambling. No one knew if we could stop the drop or not. Military assigned, containment centers built, militarized domestic police, systematic dismantling of all Constitutional protections through laws and executive orders..... I am just hoping shit doesn't go down hill. If you check out the executive orders alone...... we are literally at the brink.

Peace

 

[still pluggin]

How? They are watching everything.

The best tool for gathering is forums like this, but it's no longer private. Even for the most clever amongst us, unless you're in a public library or something.

The Patriot Act>your layers of IP schemes.

without free internet we really won't organize.

 

[mrcreosote]

No big deal.

Those FEMA camps are for holding all the illegal aliens who are going to try to get into Canada if Obama wins a second term.

The worst that will happen is that Michelle will be in charge of the food supply. She'll get the BBQ ribs and we'll get the dandelion greens.

 

[hunt4genetics]

I agree that our govt is corrupt, that being said the business of running the country continues. One's world view also comes with a blind spot.The more I think of the 30,000 drones, the more I feel it's not to kill Americans. There are far better waysto do that. A drone strike on American soil against an American would be political suicide.

On the topic of NDAA, It's public, we know that it exist. The government could just as easily snatch and execute Americans with out having a law. Think of the 1,000s of people that simply go missing every year with out a trace.

There has been and very well may be future false flags. That being said, there are real bad guys out there that mean us harm.

The form of control in America is working so well already, I don't

see why the powers that be would change.

The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

I see your point.

if it isn't broke why fix it.

Why take out a neighborhood (They miss the target at time)
Just continue to follow the usual cia handbook of Faux suicide.

DC Madame (Hangs herself)
Gary Webb (Shoots himself in the face) (Twice!)
etc.

The drones will spy on anyone/thng on Terra ferma.

If there is ever an alien invasion
30,000 drones would be handy to have.