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Pollinators are not neccessary

So I've been doing a ton of research into this, and it appears that kief tumblers are over priced and may not be the right size. I would suggest that if your looking for a good drum sieve, that you either buy a new one as "rice grain separator" or other agricultural equipment. Their are tons of these things out there of all sizes. And sieves in general are used in many industries and could be adapted to your purposes. You can get a low cost Indian manufactured sieving equipment, or try industrial or agricultural auctions. The best sieves, in General, Ive seen come from China. Skunkman uses something like this: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/419897687/Carbon_Steel_Vibrating_Sieve_Machine_for.html

As for getting the right meshes for drum sieves, I actually checked into this, some manufacturers of fine mesh (mostly China) are more than happy to sell you a small quantity of material. Though it takes some looking, that is if you care about prices and accuracy.

Another source for sieving equipment are manufacturers of pharmaceutical equipment.

My two cents.
 
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Chamba

the link says the ex-factory price is $1000 ~ $10,000 each, but there's no mention of minimum quantities, usually these China factories require minimum orders of $5000 or $10,000...but if you try hard enough you might be able to buy a sample..but be careful though, there's lots of companies in China that sell cheap stuff on the net on sites like Alibaba, take the money but never deliver.

hmmmm....I think I'it would be ten times less hassle with a machine you could buy in your own country. Pharmaceutical products are usually very well made and so are extremely expensive, most seed or particle separating machine might be suitable for dry sifting but how do you know just by looking at a photo of it?, but often can be hard to clean and the cost is prohibitive..,and of course it would be much better to buy mesh on your own country too.

or better still buy a tumbler designed specifically for dry sifting ganja : the Tumble Now, take it out of the box, fill it up and turn it on...ten minutes later you are puffing on blond putty.

check out ICmag advertiser Aqualabtechnologies.com for the Tumble Now

http://www.aqualabtechnologies.com/...w/tumble-now-rotator-dry-sifting-machine.html
 
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I actually contacted some of the suppliers of these equipment, MOST will not entertain selling one unit. But after a few rejections I got a couple who were eager to sell their machinery parts. You CAN get these machines! Companies want to sell machines. I got a manufacturer to agree to sell me one of these expensive vibrating sieve units, that can produce a lot of product quickly and efficiently. He also agreed to handle all the shipping issues and expenses. My problem is I'm in a third world country, with next to zero industry, and yet I can get equipment. In some ways its easier, with no import/ export certificates and inquires as to why you need the equipment. If your in most places, you can get equipment from local distributors. I suggest getting used equipment from auction houses.
 
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Chamba

an ultimate kif sifter would need to have a variable speed control, timer, built in refrigeration, give you the ability to easily view or access the resin quality while it's operating....among other features.

anyway, those stacking vibrating/shaker/oscillating machines designed for lab work tend to work ok by themselves for our purpose, but are not the "ultimate"..if they were then every dry sifter would rave about them, there's several reasons why, but mostly it's the fact that the kif dances and pools on the finer meshes and doesn't pass through the mesh as intended (without the use of manually carding the material at the same time..but if this is what you have, then with the right technique (re-sifting etc and then working with the finer meshes by hand etc) then you can produce either lots of decent quality and or small amounts of very clean dry sifted resin...

actually, if purity is your aim, then you can get better results with 3 flat screens and a gentle action
..if speed is your aim, then a quality tumbler designed for dry sifting ganja would be cheaper and work better.
 
Not sure where, but the Skunkman once said he uses something like it. Especially built for the pharmaceutical industry. I read up on this myself, and to get the fine particles, like the material we work with, the professionals in other industries use vibratory sieves, that are calibrated to a specific frequency.

Anyways, their is only so much demand for super refined kief, that the only way to justify having the ultimate machine, is... Not sure really.
 
Also I would like to add, the kief should be processed in a super clean factory, like the ones they use to make electronics in. Everyone, needs to wear full hazmat suits, with respirators on the back. This is starting to get expensive.
 
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Chamba

Not sure where, but the Skunkman once said he uses something like it. Especially built for the pharmaceutical industry.

I think I remember Sam Skunkman mentioning in a post here about making his 99.99% pure resin that he uses something like that machine to process plant material into a crude "farmers" resin with 150 micron mesh then he takes it out of the machine and does his secret low yielding technique to isolate 10% of the resin heads from the rough resin. This machine alone won't produce that level of purity.
 

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You can get a low cost Indian manufactured sieving equipment, or try industrial or agricultural auctions. The best sieves, in General, Ive seen come from China.

Have some experience with industrial sieves , the quality from Indian sources varies wildly and are barely suitable for fine work , the chinese clones are rarely the mesh they claim to be.

The best sieves , and the industry standard , are made in the UK by Endecotts.

These are a better buy secondhand than new chinese ones , fairly easy to find in industrial auctions down to 90 micron , finest ones are harder to source but often found on fleabay dirt cheap.
 

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