General Organics nute feeding?

[J.C.grower]

i recently purchased the General Organics complete nutrient GO BOX. i am at my second grow currently and am using soil. my question is if anyone uses these nutes, how often should i feed my ladies to make sure i dont over or under feed them?

 

[Bunz]

Typically soil growers use the "feed, feed, water" schedule, but most tweak it to their own needs. Follow the GO feeding chart and start at 1/2 strength and work your way from there.

Bunz

 

[J.C.grower]

Typically soil growers use the "feed, feed, water" schedule, but most tweak it to their own needs.

Bunz

what do you mean by feed,feed,water?

 

[Bunz]

How often you "water" is gonna be dependent on the size of the pot, size of the plant, amount of soil amendments, etc. I use the "lift" method of determining when they plants needed to be watered. Water and lift the pot. Lift the same pot when you know the plant needs to be watered again. You're shooting for a weight that is somewhere between those two weights.

When the plants are ready to be watered, follow the feed, feed, water method, meaning feed with your first watering, wait until plants need to be watered again, feed with your second watering, wait until plants need to be watered again, and just ph adjusted water with the third watering.

 

[mad librettist]

and if you feel like it after growing this way for a while, we have some pretty cool options for you in the stickies, including re-using the soil grow after grow without ever mixing it up again.

 

[Epiphyte]

use at least the recommended amount...I double up consistently on everything but the bio bud. I use age age bloom some, plus molasses. You can/should definitely continue using the grow in the first weeks of flowering. I hardly ever use just plain water. I feel that one can always add some beneficial.
Phyte

 

[medmaker420]

I have the go line as well that I want to give a go. Now to you really NOT ph anything with the general organics? I guess that is with organics in general though ..... I really need to get off the chems lol.

 

[mmmcake]

i also just picked up the GO box. and just gave my first watering @ 1/2 strength. what are peoples thoughts on bio marine? use it or not?

 

[pinecone]

i also just picked up the GO box. and just gave my first watering @ 1/2 strength. what are peoples thoughts on bio marine? use it or not?

It looks like it is fish hydrolysate. A similar product would be Neptune's Harvest. There is a lot of information on the use of fish hydrolysate here. People use it as an all purpose fertilizer and as in ingredient in compost teas. Check out the organics for beginner's and the tea threads. I use it in compost tea and an all purpose fertilizer for smaller plants. I don't administer at any sort of regular intervals - just if and when needed.

Pine

 

[unclefishstick]

the bio marine is made from squid i believe,i like to use it say once every week or so in place of the veg formula,its also pretty good as a transitional nute for the first week of flower and after transplants with the bioweed...

 

[PistilPete]

Feed,water,feed,water. I never ph'ed w/ GO and never had any issues. Used the Bio-Marine every couple weeks in veg instead of the veg nutes. The Bio-Weed is a great foliar spray. I just followed the amounts on their feed chart. When i needed to add CaMg+, the bio marine, or used Bio weed as a foliar, i used the "heavy feeding" amounts on the bottles.

 

[ExoSteve]

Personnally, I use 25% compost (seaweed) and 75% pro-mix. 6 liters pot in veg, tranplanted in 12 liters pot 1 months later. Flowering is in 25 liters pot!

I water my plants ever 4 days in veg and 7-8 days in flowering.

I give light feed the first time in veg, heavy feed the second and from there you must feel the plants. I would say med feed the third watering and heavy the fourth, med the fifth, etc!

In flowering I give them 650ppm the first time, 750ppm the second and third time and feel the plants from there. The Cave give them 1200ppm every 3-4 days!!!!!

Cal/mag+ is ESSENTIAL ... my BigBud x White Widow NEED it at week 4. If I don't give cal/mag+ from start the damage will not be reversable.

For roots I would use Neptune Harvest 0-0-1 !! Best product out there!

Since GHO lines are not completly organics you can use pk 13/14 in flowering or BioBud since you already have it.

Once you adjust pH you need to adjust EVERYTIME you water your plants because you destroy the buffer. In 4 years I've never adjusted my pH AT ALL and never got problems. Adjust pH is kind of losing time...don't mess with it. This forum is pH freak but I still figure out why...

 

[TheyCallMeJJay]

Have you guys figured out how many gallons of soil you can grow with the Go Box? Looks like it can get quite expensive for larger grows.

Seems complicated.

 

[ExoSteve]

True! BioCANNA is cheaper than the GH organic line!

 

[pinecone]

Have you guys figured out how many gallons of soil you can grow with the Go Box? Looks like it can get quite expensive for larger grows.

I'm pretty sure you could build or buy a well amended soil, nix their overcomplicated feeding schedule, and just use the products as needed (coupe times a grow), and they would last awhile. Of course the problem is with 8 bottles, how do you know what is needed? (I'm guessing this is part of the point). If I was going to use this stuff I would just buy a bottle of BioMarine and skip the rest of the stuff (which is pretty much the way I grow now).

When I used to grow with an organic bottled nutrient line (BioBizz) and store bought soil (FFOF) I really never needed to use the Grow part of the line as long as I kept the plants in enough soil, FFOF being plenty well amended. Moreover, I found no benefits from the other extra bottles (TopMax, RootJuice, Algemic) or from using the "Bloom" more than a couple times during the first half of the flowering cycle.

Pine

 

[TheyCallMeJJay]

I'm pretty sure you could build or buy a well amended soil, nix their overcomplicated feeding schedule, and just use the products as needed (coupe times a grow), and they would last awhile. Of course the problem is with 8 bottles, how do you know what is needed? (I'm guessing this is part of the point). If I was going to use this stuff I would just buy a bottle of BioMarine and skip the rest of the stuff (which is pretty much the way I grow now).

When I used to grow with an organic bottled nutrient line (BioBizz) and store bought soil (FFOF) I really never needed to use the Grow part of the line as long as I kept the plants in enough soil, FFOF being plenty well amended. Moreover, I found no benefits from the other extra bottles (TopMax, RootJuice, Algemic) or from using the "Bloom" more than a couple times during the first half of the flowering cycle.

Pine

One of the main reasons I've gone full organic was cost and ease. I tired of having bottles and granulars all over the place.

That said I would like to compare the cost. If one of you lads would be so kind as to post the volumes of those bottles and cost I'll run the numbers.

 

[ExoSteve]

I only use grow in veg and bloom in flowering + cal/mag in both stage.

Would like to add neptune harvest 0-0-1!! No need of more if you have good starting soil! Cheap compost like BioMax seaweed is amazing for 8$ 30L!

 

[TheyCallMeJJay]

If I remember correcly I had a high initial cost per gallon of soil doing the mixes myself. But after that the price per gallon dived significantly. I'm thinking around 75% of original cost. I'll dig around for the data.

 

[TheyCallMeJJay]

I only use grow in veg and bloom in flowering + cal/mag in both stage.

Would like to add neptune harvest 0-0-1!! No need of more if you have good starting soil! Cheap compost like BioMax seaweed is amazing for 8$ 30L!

Do you care to post the numbers and frequency of use?

 

[pinecone]

One of the main reasons I've gone full organic was cost and ease. I tired of having bottles and granulars all over the place.

Funny. The first pick is from the Spring of 2009, when I was still using bottles. Notice the crap (messy bottles, pitcher-for mixing, used paper towels) in the bottom of the cab. I managed to get rid of all of that stuff and things are much cleaner (second pick). I do have a quart bottle of fish hydrolysate (Drammatic) that I use on plants in veg and for teas, but that is it as far is liquids. That bottle and the dry stuff gets stored in bags that fit in a dishpan in another area and doesn't get used that often - and I have a small bag of store bought EWC (it is nice stuff though) - and some big bags of things (alfalfa, kelp, oyster shell) stored outside.

Pine