Gravity

[Tyga]

Whoops.... Ive been using gravity,purple maxx and SSU for mu last few grows.. Buds were lacking on the density side even woth cool temps amd good ventilation and plenty of light so i was kind of stooped. Gravity fixed that but after reading this shit im not using any of their lone of products anymore.

 

[cchem]

a good way to tell if a product has it in and also claims to stop the stretch is to look at the price , these things are all ways expensive for what looks like a general n p k nute ,

another the hammer they guy told me it had no paco in it , but i read the lable and it says dont take clones or reuse soil after using this product ,

what a joke a . i just got this stuff as some sample into my hydro shop in the uk , will leave it alone i think ,

Sort of funny given paclobutrazol is as cheap as chips. Actually, here's something I have written on the profits in these products. From http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html

The Daminozide Money Trail
Let’s analyze for a moment how much money is made by those promoting PGRs as “rare earth elements”, “citrates”, “arginates”, “quinalone” (a new one to me), “humatic isolates”, “kelp” etc to unsuspecting consumers.

The math…

1 gram of pure substance in 1L equates to 1000ppm. Given Flower Dragon contains 18,400ppm of Daminozide this equates to 18.4 grams per litre of Daminozide at 100% purity in 1L (solute (Daminozide) + solvent (water) = 1L).

Recently, for the purpose of this article, I priced purchasing 100Kg of Daminozide from a Chinese supplier. The product was 850 grams a kilo Daminozide or 85% purity.

Next….

To achieve 18,500ppm of Daminozide in solution with the Chinese product it would require 21.76g/L. Based on this, 1Kg of 85% Daminozide would produce 45.95 litres of Flower Dragon. The price of the Chinese product at 100Kg was $97.00 USD per Kg. Add shipping and other costs to this and we could conservatively estimate that Daminozide costs ex China $98.50 USD per kilo landed in BC, Canada where Flower Dragon is produced. Let’s be generous and make that $100 USD per 1Kg of Daminozide. Therefore, 100 Kg of Daminozide costs $10,000 USD ex China to BC. Don’t get hung up on the math. It’s largely irrelevant. The end result is the important thing (for those of you wishing to check my math feel free).

Okay, so we know that 1Kg of 85% Daminozide produces 45.95 litres of Flower Dragon and 1Kg of Daminozide costs $100 USD. Therefore 1L of Flower Dragon requires $2.17 of Daminozide (I.e. 100 ÷ 45.95 = $2.17 USD).

Let’s also add twenty cents in Paclobutrazol (PBZ being cheap and used at low levels), $1.00 per plastic bottle used in production and $1.50 for labels. Total cost to produce 1L of Flower Dragon = $4.87 (round that off to $5.00 for ridiculously low levels of P and K that are also added in production).

Next….

100 kilo of 85% purity Daminozide makes 4595.5 litres of Flower Dragon or 4595.5 1L bottles of saleable product. Total cost to produce equals $22, 977 USD based on $5.00 per bottle estimate.

Next….

Flower Dragon retails in the US for $120.00. We have 4595.5 1L bottles each retailing for $120.00. 4595.5 x $120.00 = $551,460.00 from an initial investment of $22, 977. Therefore, the profit made along the way equates to $528,483.00 or roughly 2,300%.

Next….

Wholesalers typically mark up products 30% and retailers typically have markups of 100% on consumables. Based on this, Flower Dragon is sold to the wholesalers for about $45.00 (a $40.00 profit for Envy Plant Products or a 900% profit and $40 x 4595.5 = $183,820.00 on 100Kg of Daminozide = $165,4380.00 in profits); wholesalers then sell to retailers at $60.00 (4595.5 x $20 = $91,910) and finally retailers Flower Dragon to consumers for $120.00 (4595.5 x $60 = $275, 730).

Wow!!

Of course, I’ve oversimplified this somewhat because people have rents to pay etc. The aim, however, is to demonstrate the incredible sums of money that are made through the sales of these products.

What is most important to note here is the vast amount of profits generated all flow to the top of the Daminozide pyramid. That is, wholesalers make 30%, retailers make 100% and Steve Berlow et al make 900% on 100% of all Flower Dragon sales across the US et al. Technically speaking, this amounts to millions of dollars earned very quickly from lies, more lies, more lies, and banned for use in any consumable crop, Daminozide (aka Alar).

 

[Ganja baba]

Sort of funny given paclobutrazol is as cheap as chips. Actually, here's something I have written on the profits in these products. From http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html

The Daminozide Money Trail
Let’s analyze for a moment how much money is made by those promoting PGRs as “rare earth elements”, “citrates”, “arginates”, “quinalone” (a new one to me), “humatic isolates”, “kelp” etc to unsuspecting consumers.

The math…

1 gram of pure substance in 1L equates to 1000ppm. Given Flower Dragon contains 18,400ppm of Daminozide this equates to 18.4 grams per litre of Daminozide at 100% purity in 1L (solute (Daminozide) + solvent (water) = 1L).

Recently, for the purpose of this article, I priced purchasing 100Kg of Daminozide from a Chinese supplier. The product was 850 grams a kilo Daminozide or 85% purity.

Next….

To achieve 18,500ppm of Daminozide in solution with the Chinese product it would require 21.76g/L. Based on this, 1Kg of 85% Daminozide would produce 45.95 litres of Flower Dragon. The price of the Chinese product at 100Kg was $97.00 USD per Kg. Add shipping and other costs to this and we could conservatively estimate that Daminozide costs ex China $98.50 USD per kilo landed in BC, Canada where Flower Dragon is produced. Let’s be generous and make that $100 USD per 1Kg of Daminozide. Therefore, 100 Kg of Daminozide costs $10,000 USD ex China to BC. Don’t get hung up on the math. It’s largely irrelevant. The end result is the important thing (for those of you wishing to check my math feel free).

Okay, so we know that 1Kg of 85% Daminozide produces 45.95 litres of Flower Dragon and 1Kg of Daminozide costs $100 USD. Therefore 1L of Flower Dragon requires $2.17 of Daminozide (I.e. 100 ÷ 45.95 = $2.17 USD).

Let’s also add twenty cents in Paclobutrazol (PBZ being cheap and used at low levels), $1.00 per plastic bottle used in production and $1.50 for labels. Total cost to produce 1L of Flower Dragon = $4.87 (round that off to $5.00 for ridiculously low levels of P and K that are also added in production).

Next….

100 kilo of 85% purity Daminozide makes 4595.5 litres of Flower Dragon or 4595.5 1L bottles of saleable product. Total cost to produce equals $22, 977 USD based on $5.00 per bottle estimate.

Next….

Flower Dragon retails in the US for $120.00. We have 4595.5 1L bottles each retailing for $120.00. 4595.5 x $120.00 = $551,460.00 from an initial investment of $22, 977. Therefore, the profit made along the way equates to $528,483.00 or roughly 2,300%.

Next….

Wholesalers typically mark up products 30% and retailers typically have markups of 100% on consumables. Based on this, Flower Dragon is sold to the wholesalers for about $45.00 (a $40.00 profit for Envy Plant Products or a 900% profit and $40 x 4595.5 = $183,820.00 on 100Kg of Daminozide = $165,4380.00 in profits); wholesalers then sell to retailers at $60.00 (4595.5 x $20 = $91,910) and finally retailers Flower Dragon to consumers for $120.00 (4595.5 x $60 = $275, 730).

Wow!!

Of course, I’ve oversimplified this somewhat because people have rents to pay etc. The aim, however, is to demonstrate the incredible sums of money that are made through the sales of these products.

What is most important to note here is the vast amount of profits generated all flow to the top of the Daminozide pyramid. That is, wholesalers make 30%, retailers make 100% and Steve Berlow et al make 900% on 100% of all Flower Dragon sales across the US et al. Technically speaking, this amounts to millions of dollars earned very quickly from lies, more lies, more lies, and banned for use in any consumable crop, Daminozide (aka Alar).

i totally agree thanks for the info mate
and i am now looking into mighty wash all though they say its 99.97 percent water , that other 2 percent could be quite lethal , ambermectrum may be ?

 

[SimplySour]

So is it just Gravity with the issue, or is BUSHMASTER included in this? I've been using bushmaster for years (with great results), so I need to know if I should stop.

 

[1and1]

So is it just Gravity with the issue, or is BUSHMASTER included in this? I've been using bushmaster for years (with great results), so I need to know if I should stop.

Bushmaster also contains Paclobutrazol, sucks to find out you've been using toxic shit for years.

Somebody should organize a boycott of the companies that peddle this crap.

I won't even shop at a grow store that carries these products.

 

[Cartel530]

they have done studies and proved that its such a remote amount of these chemicals they wont harm you. these are toxic in way higher amounts. use the shit out of them and reap the rewards. gravity and bushmaster are outlawed in california because anything thats going to be consumed must have a full ingredient label. notice there is no other product that does what gravity does and he didnt wanna release the full formula so he was against the regulations and they banned the product.

 

[1and1]

they have done studies and proved that its such a remote amount of these chemicals they wont harm you.

It's bullshit, they don't know

What rewards? Lower quality, less resiny buds. Albeit maybe denser.

 

[cchem]

It's bullshit, they don't know

What rewards? Lower quality, less resiny buds. Albeit maybe denser.

100% on the money here. Absolute bullshit. There have been no tests and tests that have been done on some food crops have found residues, hence PBZ being banned for use on consumable crops in some countries. These tests are only now beginning for MJ through SC analytical. Again, for anyone being sucked in by PGR shills http://www.manicbotanix.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=27&Itemid=14

Follow the links posted on this page also.

 

[Builtaforest]

Current status: STOP SALE

http://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/detail.lasso?-op=eq&product_id=10286

healthy dose of arsenic, lead, and mercury I see

 

[MrBill1969]

they have done studies and proved that its such a remote amount of these chemicals they wont harm you. these are toxic in way higher amounts. use the shit out of them and reap the rewards...

Cartel--

Not really trying to stir the pot, so to speak, but I'd sure like to know who "they" are and I'd love a link or a citation to or about these studies.

BTW-- I do have an agenda -- my wife has MS and any kind of heavy metal contamination is not a good thing in my humble and quite biased opinion.

Peace

 

[supermanlives]

bushmaster ruined a crop for me 3k worth . never used the gravity. i threw them both out. wasted about 200$ wont even consider using em again

 

[Cartel530]

like i said, in high doeses its bad for you. almost all things are toxic at a certain level. here is a fun read

http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/risk/rcd/paclobut.pdf