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twisted growth - just the newest leaves.

stihgnobevoli

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SOIL- seed starting mix mostly peat and like 15% perlite.
How long has this problem been going on? just noticed it today or a couple days ago
What STRAIN are you growing?grapefruit d-lite, mostly sativa
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)seed
What is the age of your plants?roughly 14 weeks from seed and about 8-9 weeks flower
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 8-9 weeks
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? If not, what mixture were they in before? i think they are in the same mix, if not then they were started in reused soil from a previous grow, or miracle gro organics
How Tall are the plants? like 18-24 inches tall, hard to tell i trained em
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?last 3-4 weeks of flower
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)a little lst and some super cropping
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)i think this pot is 1 quart or maybe a little more.
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)mostly peat with some perlite maybe 15%-25%
What brand Nutrient's are you using?GH flora/ lucas formula
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water?*Knowing the brand is very helpful* modified lucas formula 2:1 ratio of bloom to veg and dropping to 3:1 mid flower and 1:0 late flower then last few weeks i flush plain water and molasses.
How often are you feeding? when they are hungry
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? like week 4 of flower
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) always micro then bloom
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? fuck if i know i stopped checking that shit months ago. but luckily i decided to ppm the water the other day. the tap ppm after i ph down to around 6ph was 100-120 ppm the ppm of the nutes? i don't check anymore i just give food when hungry.
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? the ph of the runoff has been around 6 or high 5's. whatever i put it in at is about where it comes out
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS? once in a green moon
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? i use drops
How often are you watering? every couple of days as they need it.
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?like 4 - 5 weeks ago, its been plain water for the past 2 weeks, and water+molasses the 2 weeks before that, the week before that i gave 3:1 bloom to veg 15ml bloom 5ml veg
What size bulb are you using?70w hps
How old is your bulbs?can't really be sure. i bought em in 2009, and i replaced one, then i shut down and started again and i don't know if i reused the same bulb or a new one. so i've either been using this buld for one year, or for almost 4 years. its not showing any signs of being end of life
What is the distance to the canopy? anywhere between 4 inches and 14 inches. my cab is small so the plants are always within 1 foot of the bulb no matter where they are
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) according to the meter its always either around 30% or -- whatever that means. less than 30% i guess
What is the canopy temperature? let me check...according to my IR scopemometer its like 84degrees at the tops, the tops themselves are at 84 degrees.
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)its 78 right now, and its a warm day outside 35 degrees. night time temps last time i peeked in at night were about 64 degrees
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)lol
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? exhaust fans run 24/7 pushing out at the top and sucking through passive intakes at the bottom. 1 baby fan on the floor of cab pointed at doors and slightly up for airflow and circulation
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?no
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?no
Is your water HARD or SOFT?fuck if i know
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap water
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?(Only if you have a tds pen)120 or so
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?(Only if you have a tds pen)
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?nope
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? i watered with mosquito dunks about a week and a half ago to two weeks. i crumbled one up and i mixed some into the top soil of each plant i was growing
Are plant's infected with pest's? fungus gnats im trying to kill off, almost about got em all


ok i have 2 other plants going and this is the only one showing the baby leaves twisting like this, like twirling into a spiral first time i ever seen anything like this. the other plants have their issues too which might be down to the soil im using on those particular plants or the fungus gnats im trying to eradicate right now.

plant otherwise looks healthy, no spots or damage on any leaves except one big fan leaf that has been alerting me to any changes. looks like i need some more magnesium soon. all healthy, not over nitrification or anything. the buds are small, but i never grew this strain before so maybe this is how the buds should look. but it looks like its fine except the twisted new leaves which may or may not be a symptom of why the buds are so small at 9 weeks.

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this is what im talking about.

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whole plant shot from a few days ago.

anyone got any ideas? ph is off? too low? too high?

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here is a couple pics from the other 2 plants im also growing. one of em has leaves that are dry and brittle at the tips in the buds. that was weeks ago when it happened though. but might be related. and the other one the buds are like really small and the bud leaves are really tiny. like miniature version of real buds. maybe that is a clue to whats wrong?
 
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TribalSeeds

That stuff on the edges is a PH issue. Sorry, I dont know anything about soil though
 
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