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HIGH CBD marijuana?

castout

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I have heard alot about high CBD , and was wondering, are there particular starins? Or as I saw on weed wars, you let the bud go longer in flower, thus producing more cbd's and less thc? I had heard there were specifif strains that were high cbd, then I heard that weed waars growers explained that is how you get high CBD. I am confused, and was hoping that some of our very learned growers could explain how it works? I am just confused, because I heard that Stanford University, they are working with High CBD strains. Thanks for helping me figure this out.
 

Lumière

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There are some strains with high CBD.(Cannatonic, Sour Tsumani, Z6) You can find interesting information looking for CDB project by Mr.Nice.
 

fungzyme

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CBD content of the buds is genetically determined (plant either produces mostly THC, mostly CBD or some of each, but it's not determined by how long you leave the plant to flower.)

I believe letting buds flower extra long increases the CBN content, which is actually a breakdown product (of THC, I think - someone correct me if I'm wrong) and that changes the quality of the high.

A lot of people seem to be looking for plants that produce close to a 1 to 1 ratio of THC to CBD.
 

castout

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fungzyme, thank you for clearing this up for me!!!! I thought it was strain specific, as you said, but the growers on Weed Wars said that you let the plant go longer to decrease thc, and increase CBD. Sounded like bullshit to me, from all I understand about high CBD, and now I know it is bullshit. Weed Wars should keep the uninformed growers away from the cameras.....makes us all look stupid!!!!
 

tosh.o

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i've been told by many that the Z-6 and Z-7 from CBDcrew was a failure in most people's eyes but it appears they are offering new strains soon so i'm very confused regarding the cbd crew and its potential to breed seed, if only we all had dispensaries like Cali with tested high CBD strains
 

1and1

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The problem with "high CBD" strains is the offspring are not all CBD rich individuals. Maybe 50% will have the high CBD trait. So to really find a verified high CBD plant it must be tested.
 

tosh.o

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Shanti state that half of the Z series offspring would be roughly 1:1 on the thc:cbd ratio tho i'm sure it didn't work out that way or it'd be offered now (or didn't work well)...i think if you are gonna find a high cbd plant for yourself then you also gotta find a plant with the right thc levels...for example, some may need a 1:2 or others a 2:1 and on and on so i think it will take a lot more time and space but very worth it in the end...i just can't verifty that high cbd strains work better as you'd seem it would pick up in Cali and be a big seller and you hear little about cbd other than its possibility to decrease the "high" but to me thats like drinking decaffeinated coffee what the hell is the point
 

SuperConductor

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One of their plants might have but not every seed. This whole CBD thing is a marketing man's dream and most of these seed sellers are expert marketing men (not that it's a difficult skill to master).

i think if you are gonna find a high cbd plant for yourself then you also gotta find a plant with the right thc levels

I agree. It'd be good to find one of each (high thc and high cbd) and mix according to your needs before smoking. Pipe dreams at the moment of course.
 

ChaosCatalunya

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One of their plants might have but not every seed. This whole CBD thing is a marketing man's dream and most of these seed sellers are expert marketing men (not that it's a difficult skill to master).



I agree. It'd be good to find one of each (high thc and high cbd) and mix according to your needs before smoking. Pipe dreams at the moment of course.


Spot on, if you look at Resin Seeds Cannatonic there was a lab printout posted here showing 10 odd phenos, with THC and CBD scores all over the place, no 50/50 plants, but several 60/40, both ways.

Seen so many people claiming that their XYZ bla bla kush has X% CBD, yet in "normal" terms variation, getting low THC %s, or high CBD [anti euphoric] would be the last thing anybody wanted to brag about....

I have seen reports of Hermie problems with the new CBD project strain, would avoid it, people not happy.

Cannatonic was born from a mix up, the parents were mixed up by somebody else, it is now known to come from Reggae Seeds Juanita la grimosa, there was a full article on soft secrets a few months ago.
 

Hydro-Soil

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i just can't verifty that high cbd strains work better as you'd seem it would pick up in Cali and be a big seller and you hear little about cbd other than its possibility to decrease the "high" but to me thats like drinking decaffeinated coffee what the hell is the point

Been to Cali?

I have, for a couple years. Patients there are like the patients here in Colorado... ignorant, for the most part. Cali has more that understand cannabis pretty well... not much more, but I would say a few at this point. Heh

CBD has a lot of value medicinally and regulates the "high" you get from the THC. Should you need a lot of cannabis in a short period of time... adding CBD concentrates to your regular concentrates will allow a higher dosage without a freakout. Doses also last hours longer when higher cbd levels are present.

Most patients don't know medicinal from the last doormat they walked on. They're helping themselves... yes. They're comforting themselves, yes. They have no idea about the true value of cannabis as medicine or anything else about it. They just buy their buds and get high a few times a day.

People are looking for the 50:50 mix of thc and cbd in one plant as a "holy grail" and I believe that strains should be mixed to get that. 80% of the strain that works best for your head and 20% a super high cbd strain to dampen down the high from it.

We're definitely not talking about a "smoking" strain here as most strains high in CBD don't seem to have that great of a flavor so far.

This is a :jump: thing for all those folks that can't eat simpson oil without freaking out. Some people just don't have a tolerance at all, even with building up the dosage slowly. :( When time is your enemy...

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 

SuperConductor

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Good points. Get the feeling there's more to it than just 'cbd stops the high' though, sativex 51% thc 49% cbd (and some really tasty terpenes) gets you extremely high first time you try, very euphoric but in a pleasant and comfortable way. Maybe the euphoria was actually from not feeling ill but I do't think so.
I reckon it's the same high people report from smoking temples balls and other hand rubbed himalayan hash, euphoric and uplifting but calm and relaxed at the same time. All that probably changes as the ratio moves away from 50/50 though. It's all so complicated that making absolute statements may well be impossible which is a shame as that's what people want.
 

castout

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I just want to try a good high CBD strain. I have RSD(reflex sympathetic dystrophy), and although I love getting high, occasionally there are times I would just like the pain relief. The water seems pretty murky, when it comes to high CBD, and it seems like there are alot of myths, and misunderstanding when it comes to high CBD. Will keep looking.......................
 

SuperConductor

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The main problem is the novelty of it, it's only really in the last few years general smokers have been looking at this kind of thing and as i say it's been hijacked by the seed marketing men.

This is one of the better threads on the subject https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=60763&highlight=cbd Keep an eye out for Sam_Skunkman's posts, one of the few people with the relative experience. Nothing's really changed since then, it's still illegal to grow so very few people can grow out the plant numbers needed to do the breeding work right.
 

tosh.o

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a good Afghan dom strain normally works for me...i don't know if the whole ratio thing is true cuz i've had excellent results with regualr strains and intense selection...couldn't test the ratio's but doubt they were all CBD high mother plants just due to numbers
 

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