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Nondual
Where I live a plug in hybrid would be cool cause I could easily charge the car at my neighbors place off their solar panels. Would never need gas unless I had to leave town.
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No winter- La Nina or Global Warming?
- Thread starter Nor'Easter
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Disco,
Solyndra did went bankrupt because there product was just no competitive. The idea was interesting but the result was far from expected. Any idea why no figure can be find on their actual yield ?... Cause it was very bad...
Regardings the Chinese gvt sponsoring the solar industry, I would read this : http://www.pv-tech.org/guest_blog/unfair_trade_or_getting_whopped_solarworld
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Solyndra did went bankrupt because there product was just no competitive. The idea was interesting but the result was far from expected. Any idea why no figure can be find on their actual yield ?... Cause it was very bad...
Regardings the Chinese gvt sponsoring the solar industry, I would read this : http://www.pv-tech.org/guest_blog/unfair_trade_or_getting_whopped_solarworld
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Solyndra's product price was too high to compete with subsidized manufacturing. Solyndra responded by lowering their price to be competitive and adjusted revenues bankrupted the company.
I read the article. Looks like the jury's still out on whether China is dumping their products to lower global prices. According to other sources, China is dumping, China is also accused of deflating the value of their currency for increased market share.
I read the article. Looks like the jury's still out on whether China is dumping their products to lower global prices. According to other sources, China is dumping, China is also accused of deflating the value of their currency for increased market share.
Granted the article goes on to suggest China isn't dumping, based on statistics. ITC may agree.
Luv-U-Long-Time
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Does that not beg more questioning?How they suddenly became not just unprofitable,but insolvent.Huge mistakes were made to not see that coming as if by some new trend.Laughable to attempt a defense.
I for one do not want to subsidize human suffering,China wins that race without any help.I can appreciate the direction,the tact is all wrong no matter the percentage of overall budget...I know the green fiends like to mask 500 mil under that cloak.Lets get into a 'how low can you go's battle at the expense of American taxpayers? No thanks.
I for one do not want to subsidize human suffering,China wins that race without any help.I can appreciate the direction,the tact is all wrong no matter the percentage of overall budget...I know the green fiends like to mask 500 mil under that cloak.Lets get into a 'how low can you go's battle at the expense of American taxpayers? No thanks.
Insolvency tends to happen with unprofitable companies. That's why they go bankrupt
Are you aware that the loan was granted by the Bush administration? Approximately 2% of new business survive their 1st year. Solyndra represented ~1% of DOE's fiscal loan budget.
We can give up on green manufacturing or we can invest. I for one would like to see more manufacturing in the US. From the looks of it we may not get into the global, solar panel business.
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Nondual
I doubt the US will ever get back any significant amount of the manufacturing it's lost over the years. My understanding for wind turbines is they require rare earth metals which China basically controls for starters. Forget about solar panel production in the US. Maybe we can somehow harness the hot air coming from all of the wind bag politicians?
That's a good start.
Beyond that we may need a plethora of solutions. Lawmakers politicizing everything makes it tough to see some issues at face value.
Beyond that we may need a plethora of solutions. Lawmakers politicizing everything makes it tough to see some issues at face value.
Luv-U-Long-Time
Member
Everything in moderation,the government is a glutton with an endless appetite,never satisfied.I wouldn't put it past these unaccountable lackeys to let shit go south just so they could point the finger.Fuckem all.Shit ain't working.Playing the blame game is about as worthless as Solyndra.
Who's laying blame? If trade negotiations go sour, it's tough to meet expectations.
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Nondual
Took a trip to visit a friend and had to take this pic. Where's the frikkin snow? Seems like Anchorage just got it all lol.
Regardless of the 'why' it seems this situation is farked. At least 5 more days of sun and fun coming up!
Regardless of the 'why' it seems this situation is farked. At least 5 more days of sun and fun coming up!
Luv-U-Long-Time
Member
Two words, due diligence.I know folks who did a better job with a shoestring budget.It was no big secret that other players,much adept and capable were already in the game.It was strictly agenda driven.With no accountability,you'd throw shit at a wall to see what sticks too.We need take our money back.Whether that means budget slashing to accommodate new expenditures in a new to us market.Can't just keep asking for more.Its way beyond feasible the way we currently spend.
Interesting trivia via Pawn Stars: In the 1920s there were over 3000 automobile companies. Only 45 made cars that actually worked.
Nor'Easter
Member
excellent thinking man!
so it,s many places around without snow -weird...we have about 8 Celcius now and no snow at all.Normally in those time at year,we should have around - 6 to - 16/20 celcius..Plants who sould not flowering now are going in flowering and the birds are confused to,They should not starting singing already.Dont understand why "they" dont thinking in waves energy.Some guy here in DK for years back-made an thing what did energy out of waves he spended many money of his own-but noone would buy or support his invention and it was an clever thing he had done..It could move around and rinse it self and so...He had thinked on it all..typical..The Oil and coil industry dont care of course..They have spended many years and money for builded factories and the Oil is black gold for many many people..Just have seen some in TV about icebaers on northpole
Because it,s to hot also there,no ice they cant get out onto and they cant find any food to theirs kids..if not it,s an sign-what,s is so ?
Yes a pics with contrast Nondual..
Because it,s to hot also there,no ice they cant get out onto and they cant find any food to theirs kids..if not it,s an sign-what,s is so ?
Yes a pics with contrast Nondual..
Cheddar Kid
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We too are sharing in this phenomena over here in limey land uk!! Strange, and also typical as after the year befores drama and snow I cut out a guerilla grow last year. It's been warm enough over here central England that you copuld gone thai or complex haze varieties with long florescence periods. it hasnt froze or got near 0 at night so outdoor strains would still go.....
Lot of junk food kids sharing their Fox News/ Republican Party wisdom on this thread
Some really sophisticated arguments for continuing to allow the multinationals to fuck you and the planet. Gotta grow the economy right? RIGHT? Short term gain, synonymous with long term pain. What you smoking? Ahh I see keeps you locked in front of the tube don't it?
From where I stand you sound like a bunch of overstuffed pigs wallowing in the last days of a culture whose zenith - like the flash of beauty of a trailer park beauty queen - is already long gone.
What? You think the Chinese, Japanese and Indians don't own your ass already??
Yet if I'm compassionate, I really see pawns in a game that continues to support the big boys unceasing greed to fuck the planet, they feed you junk food and television and opiate you, with the trickle down economics mirroring the trickle down flow of intelligence that sees belligerent ignoramuses repeating every war cry, every conspiracy, every Fox News sound byte the puppet masters want you to, without one original thought passing through your angry head. Masturbating in front of videos of drones bombing towel heads, or equivalent video games.
Is any of this filtering in, or have the chemical trails and GM food made that impossible?
You know Kafka said, "there is hope, but not for man."
And when I read the moronic Kentucky Fried diatribes on here, I see exactly what he meant.
Get out in nature plant some trees, do some exercise, eat some vegetables, turn off the television, turn off the computer, go for a walk, read a book, chuck the thickshake in the bin, chuck the burger and fries in the bin, do something for someone other than your self, treat your woman with some respect, say something kind, care for the environment, care for the have nots, watch the sunrise, watch it set, have an original thought, learn to meditate, realise the truth of life, stop being a pawn...
Some really sophisticated arguments for continuing to allow the multinationals to fuck you and the planet. Gotta grow the economy right? RIGHT? Short term gain, synonymous with long term pain. What you smoking? Ahh I see keeps you locked in front of the tube don't it?From where I stand you sound like a bunch of overstuffed pigs wallowing in the last days of a culture whose zenith - like the flash of beauty of a trailer park beauty queen - is already long gone.
What? You think the Chinese, Japanese and Indians don't own your ass already??
Yet if I'm compassionate, I really see pawns in a game that continues to support the big boys unceasing greed to fuck the planet, they feed you junk food and television and opiate you, with the trickle down economics mirroring the trickle down flow of intelligence that sees belligerent ignoramuses repeating every war cry, every conspiracy, every Fox News sound byte the puppet masters want you to, without one original thought passing through your angry head. Masturbating in front of videos of drones bombing towel heads, or equivalent video games.
Is any of this filtering in, or have the chemical trails and GM food made that impossible?
You know Kafka said, "there is hope, but not for man."
And when I read the moronic Kentucky Fried diatribes on here, I see exactly what he meant.
Get out in nature plant some trees, do some exercise, eat some vegetables, turn off the television, turn off the computer, go for a walk, read a book, chuck the thickshake in the bin, chuck the burger and fries in the bin, do something for someone other than your self, treat your woman with some respect, say something kind, care for the environment, care for the have nots, watch the sunrise, watch it set, have an original thought, learn to meditate, realise the truth of life, stop being a pawn...
Lot of junk food kids sharing their Fox News/ Republican Party wisdom on this thread
From where I stand you sound like a bunch of overstuffed pigs wallowing in the last days of a culture whose zenith - like the flash of beauty of a trailer park beauty queen - is already long gone.
What? You think the Chinese, Japanese and Indians don't own your ass already??
Yet if I'm compassionate, I really see pawns in a game that continues to support the big boys unceasing greed to fuck the planet, they feed you junk food and television and opiate you, with the trickle down economics mirroring the trickle down flow of intelligence that sees belligerent ignoramuses repeating every war cry, every conspiracy, every Fox News sound byte the puppet masters want you to, without one original thought passing through your angry head. Masturbating in front of videos of drones bombing towel heads, or equivalent video games.
Is any of this filtering in, or have the chemical trails and GM food made that impossible?
You know Kafka said, "there is hope, but not for man."
And when I read the moronic Kentucky Fried diatribes on here, I see exactly what he meant.
Get out in nature plant some trees, do some exercise, eat some vegetables, turn off the television, turn off the computer, go for a walk, read a book, chuck the thickshake in the bin, chuck the burger and fries in the bin, do something for someone other than your self, treat your woman with some respect, say something kind, care for the environment, care for the have nots, watch the sunrise, watch it set, have an original thought, learn to meditate, realise the truth of life, stop being a pawn...
some of us are really much out in nature and also planting trees and other plants to,for keeping bees and so and also can see,how the wheather had changed it.It also good to see some docu and wroting together with other people for hearing how it goes here and there.Had read lots of books to..and whats is an original thought is-i think it,s up to us self-how we finding it original.It,s always good to listen to what others says..
why only treat women with respect ? it,s free to talk kindly to all kinds of people.If we will.
will plant my Red ceder finish : )
Ok, this winter here in northern gemany is to warm too but I think it´s only the weather, nothing special with global warming or something. Possible that the winter comes in febuary/march?
It's always possible. However, global mean temp is rising.
