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Help me settle a dispute

Useful Idiot

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When I Up Pot I always give a week to recover then she goes into flower. My girls are not small. I veg for 6-8 weeks per plant. This method gives me girls about 4.5" tall and just a bushy(WITH TRAINING). I just started a run 2 of the girls are 3" wide x 3" tall the stretch is not done yet. Ask him to wait a week ant hen put in flower. If he does not go for it I would do what Freezer Boy Recommended.
Damn Hammer... I thought you grew plants taller than 4.5 inches tall...and way more than 3 inches wide???? Sorry...I just HAD to point out you mistake. Wrong button friend.Damn Hammer 6-8 week veg and you are only at 4.5 inches???LOL<LOL:tiphat:
 

Useful Idiot

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I think you're right, scrappy. However, as adults, and especially growers, we need to learn to pick our fights and I don't see this as worth fighting. It's one plant. Let him have his way, take your share with a smile. Then, politely, decline to grow with him again.
Yeah ,I must agree with this.:comfort:
 
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paladin420

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I move plants between growers..as soon as grower1 hands to grower2,then grower2 gets the call on how to finish...

that being said of course you give some time after a bump..my .02
 

Hammerhead

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It's a very special Pheno that grows only one bud but will last you year its that potant :)
 
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Scrappy-doo

Well thanks for all the replies!

I'd like to just answer a few questions and clarify.

1- The plant is a ChemD clone

2- It was a trade-off. He's got no cash at the moment and getting a new room set up.I gave him 5 grams of hash up front in exchange for half the plant at harvest, which will be grown my style - coco. Reason- better yield than soil. It will be his first time running coco.

3- It is just a one time deal.

4- I'm not upset at all. After bantering for 5 minutes I told him it's fine we'll just flower right away.

Perhaps he'd just rather harvest asap, which I can understand given his financial situation. If he said that were his reasoning I would have said fine from the start.

But he didn't say that. He said that we'll get more yield and that's where the argument started. It was a friendly argument, but could have gotten heated if I didn't diffuse it by caving in. I just disagree whole heartedly that the plant will actually yield more that way. It makes no logical sense to me. But I already know arguing with him is pointless on most occasions. He's just one of those types. It's fine I can deal with it.

Either way, I'll take my half happily whatever it is, because it will be more than my 5 grams of hash investment. Of course I want to get the most out of this single plant so yield is very important. That's why I'm hoping either this thread will prove me wrong which I'm willing to be, or give me something to persuade him to wait a week.

5- Why do this partnership if I can just grow plants myself? Well, my options for growing are very limited. I'm micro at the moment. I live at home. This is a chance to get a bigger plant in a bigger room.

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6- I agree. His place. His risk. He's got final say. I'll take my cut and be happy.
 

paladin420

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Well thanks for all the replies!

I'd like to just answer a few questions and clarify.

1- The plant is a ChemD clone

2- It was a trade-off. He's got no cash at the moment and getting a new room set up.I gave him 5 grams of hash up front in exchange for half the plant at harvest, which will be grown my style - coco. Reason- better yield than soil. It will be his first time running coco.

3- It is just a one time deal.

4- I'm not upset at all. After bantering for 5 minutes I told him it's fine we'll just flower right away.

Perhaps he'd just rather harvest asap, which I can understand given his financial situation. If he said that were his reasoning I would have said fine from the start.

But he didn't say that. He said that we'll get more yield and that's where the argument started. It was a friendly argument, but could have gotten heated if I didn't diffuse it by caving in. I just disagree whole heartedly that the plant will actually yield more that way. It makes no logical sense to me. But I already know arguing with him is pointless on most occasions. He's just one of those types. It's fine I can deal with it.

Either way, I'll take my half happily whatever it is, because it will be more than my 5 grams of hash investment. Of course I want to get the most out of this single plant so yield is very important. That's why I'm hoping either this thread will prove me wrong which I'm willing to be, or give me something to persuade him to wait a week.

5- Why do this partnership if I can just grow plants myself? Well, my options for growing are very limited. I'm micro at the moment. I live at home. This is a chance to get a bigger plant in a bigger room.
take a cut...get a scrubber good luck
 
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Scrappy-doo

Heh with moms and pops. Things aint that bad that I'm outdoors yet.
 

talktosamson

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You definetly want to give her a few days, I just did a transplant and flip my plants are smaller overall this run than in previous runs. I usually allow a week to get into the new pots and get rooted, but time prevented it this time, and I'm seeing the effects for sure. 7 plants between 12-18 inches at transplant, vortex, blueberry, g13xskunk, and pit bull. all reacted the same and stayed small, with smaller stretch than usual. All elements were the same except the lack of time after transplant.
 
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Scrappy-doo

To me this just makes sense. Most strains once flipped have only 2 or 3 weeks before it stops growing. If it's gotta split it's energy between growing new roots and growing in size, it's not gonna grow as much.
 

ShroomDr

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As some have stated and some have alluded to

Fighting over one plant is really frivlous, if its that big of a deal, settle it now and never grow with them again.

I would have to question someone who claims to 'be a grower' who now grows 1/2 a plant. Seems like they might be a smoke stack and they talk more than they know; i sure as hell would never grow 1/2 a plant with anyone.


As far as actual facts at hand. I am currently running the same Bogglegum pheno i have had for 18+ months. Two plants vegged in 5Gal buckets. Both of comparable (bushy) size, transplanted into 15Gal containers.

Both will have had 70 days of 12/12 on Feb 2 (31 days from now). One looks almost done (I can pull this pheno at 53, but she keeps packing on weight, and other shit around her goes longer. She gets super stoney/couchlock!). The other bogglegum just now started to solidify and soon will crown. I attribute this to transplant (and maybe the moon for the quickest of the other).

SO a slow down can happen, but doesnt always.
 
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Scrappy-doo

I would have to question someone who claims to 'be a grower' who now grows 1/2 a plant.

i sure as hell would never grow 1/2 a plant with anyone.

Some people don't have it as good as you.

It may seem like shit to you, but to me it's a lot right now.
 
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Scrappy-doo

As some have stated and some have alluded to

Fighting over one plant is really frivlous, if its that big of a deal, settle it now and never grow with them again.

There was no fight over one plant. It's not that big a deal. Perhaps try reading the thread...

There was an argument over whether a plant will yield more if given time to adjust to a new container before being put into flower.

That's what this whole thread is about. :tiphat:
 

Weird

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container gardening is an art in and of itself and flower forcing (big plants small pots) is a method for increasing flower production (ty mrgreengenes) but lets get strain specific

if its the real D your going to want as stable as a medium as possible

past that veg her for a week then flip her, dont veg her too long the chem d cut does not love being rootbound

its a good idea to let her spend her week or so getting new feet in a new medium under a 18/6 schedule

d can be finicky so treat her right, keep your ph tight and make sure she has plenty of available calcium and magnesium
 
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guest121295

Indeed, this being the d cut, shes not going to be throwing much wieght with no extra time to settle.I would seriously consider giving her 2 weeks of veg and then cutting her at 63 instead of 70, if you're looking to save time.Something like an ecsd would be much diff, I'd say flip her now.People obviously have many diff ways of doing great things!:)
 

Yes4Prop215

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ideally, it is nice to give them a week to push out some roots and fill the pot more..


but, i literaly just finished a run where i flipped them at transplant, and they still pushed out nice rootballs, not that thick, but they still reached the edge of the pots...


this current run, i transplanted and after a week already had roots popping out the bottom, so i would echo what others have said and say that a 2x rootmass only needs a week tops in veg to push out some roots and reach the edges, and the final 2 weeks after the 12/12 flip it will fill out the edges but not get rootbound...

now i was only doing half gal to 2 gal but if your doing a 15 gal into a 100gal smartpot then you will of course need extra veg time..
 

Shcrews

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i'm not sure why there is a disagreement

in my experience more veg time always = more yield.

the answer is quite obvious: veg as long as possible in as big a container as possible. unless there is a time constraint
 

ShroomDr

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There was no fight
There was an argument

Perhaps try reading the thread...

Oh... Here is a thesaurus, i recommend YOU READ IT.

http://thesaurus.com Fight

Main Entry: fight

Part of Speech: verb

Definition: oppose action, belief

Synonyms: argue, bicker, buck*, buckle down, carry on, combat, conduct, contest, continue, defy, dispute, effect, endure, engage in, exert oneself, fall out, force, further, hammer away, hassle, lay into, light into, maintain, make a stand against, oppose, persevere, persist, prosecute, push forward, put up an argument, repel, resist, row, spare no effort, squabble, stand up to, strive, struggle, support, take on, take pains, tangle with, toil on, travail, traverse, uphold, wage, withstand, wrangle
Antonyms: agree, believe, support, uphold
 
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