Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[IE2KS_KUSH]

So apparently if RP wins Iowa, then it doesn't count, and they are even predicting a "internet terrorist attack" on the vote in Iowa, weird, I thought that they literally counted a show of hands..oh that's right, we are due for a false flag to justify NDAA, and the internet kill switch, might as well get 2 birds stoned at once..

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

deflation is no good!
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/flowchart/2010/07/16/why-deflation-is-worse-than-inflation

Low inflation has been a blessing for consumers, with a few things getting more expensive but many things getting cheaper. The microprocessor revolution, for example, has driven down the cost of computers, televisions, and other kinds of electronics, while growing imports from low-cost countries like China has made clothing, furniture, and appliances cheaper. Economists call this "good deflation," because it makes people and companies more productive and helps improve living standards.

I think it is completely off-base to correlate the unstoppable advances in technology(computers continually getting smaller and faster at exponential rates every year) to try and say the price of electronics going down is related to dollar value. Also, getting everything from china for real cheap is hardly going to be productive for the US economy in the long run.

"Bad deflation" happens when the price of everything falls. And that can harm everybody. Economist Gary Shilling cites three factors needed for bad deflation: A financial crisis, a deep recession, and a spike in unemployment. Gulp. We've had all of those. When the economic pain gets intense enough, demand for all products falls far below supply, simply because people don't have enough money to buy all the stuff companies are geared up to produce. That has clearly happened in the market for homes, cars, many retail items, and the commodities used to make a variety of products. The danger comes when falling demand for some products creates so much slack in the economy that the demand for all products—as measured by the consumer price index, for example—tumbles.

The homes, cars, and commodities have not gone bust due to lower consumer interest, or even solely thirst for their products. A big reason the car market went bust, is because america was right in the middle of a Surge of super gas guzzling 15 seater trucks, Gas prices had tripled in a few short years and nobody was gonna be able to afford that. I used to pay 89 cents a gallon about ten years ago, now its gone down and is in the upper $3 range? insane. even while Production has gone up everywhere.....hmm. doesnt sound like speculators with oil interest to me at all.................

And housing and commodities are controlled by speculators as well. This is a far bigger threat to our economy than a dollar being worth a dollar.

[See 10 states where taxes are up, services down.]

If all prices fall, it's a disaster. Falling prices means lower revenue and profit margins for companies, which as we know leads to layoffs, less hiring, stagnant wages, and outright pay cuts. Consumers with lower incomes have less money to spend, which tends to lock the cycle in place: With sales down, firms have to cut prices even more to get business. The worst part comes when everybody realizes that prices are falling, because nobody wants to buy something today if it will be cheaper tomorrow. That's why our housing market is such a disaster: When prices are falling, you've already lost money on your investment the day after your big purchase. Buyers would rather sit on the sidelines and wait for prices to bottom out.

The only place where it is bad when prices fall is if you bought at the top and are tumbling down. F'r instance, Say you bought that $500,000 dream home a few years back, and turns out its only $150,000 now. yea sucks for you.

 

[stickey fingers]

Some people just prefer their president be bought and payed for by citi and goldman i guess....
The big O is 100% payed for.
Tell me stoned how do you justify voting for a guy who is owned by the very banks OWS is protesting?
or did you know goldman and citi were the top contributors?
did you know they owned bush too?
ever wonder why obama and bush have no real policy difference?
it's because they both work for the same people(if you believe corporations are people)

so yea ill take ron over bush's 4th term anyday!

its why hate is not a strong enough word when
it comes to the tratior obusha!!!

 

[rootfingers]

You guys ever hear of Buddy Roemer?

 

[hubcap]

what, in your opinions, do you think the results of adhering to the "gold standard" again be a good or bad thing (or indifferent) for 2012 American Capitalism?

Also, the 'nay-sayers' are the same people that said 'he'd never lead in Iowa, so, to me, it's humorous. They fear change....
A lot of us do. "Dealing with" Greed-ital-ism for the last 20 years has made Americans numb.

Ron Paul tells it like it is...
I think his ideas and platforms, no matter how 'non-traditional' they are, really make sense and, in my opinion, would appeal to a good amount of GOP voters.
I know we hear it all the time, but, foreign policy will alienate a good amount of GOPers as well. ....Albeit 'staying the course' for the last ten years, hasn't made us safer. Only poorer.

"To do the same thing, over and over, expecting a different result, is the very definition of insanity." -Albert Einstein.

cant wait to hear more opinions.


-cap

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

RP gets more military contributions than all the other candidates combined INCLUDING NObama. There's a reason.

 

[s13sr20det]

RP gets more military contributions than all the other candidates combined INCLUDING NObama. There's a reason.

hell yeah!

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7392309n

 

[Sam the Caveman]

stoned stoner, please quit trolling this thread, stop trying to force your opinions on us

 

[Jellyfish]

Might as well vote for the tooth fairy.

 

[dagnabit]

You guys ever hear of Buddy Roemer?

Yup....
Bush doctrine,patriot act and big pharma in control of mj..
no thanks

 

[GP73LPC]

the tooth fairy would shake up the establishment....

 

[dagnabit]

Might as well vote for the tooth fairy.

Is toothy on the verge of winning iowa and new Hampshire?
if so it's better than O

 

[stonedstoner]

stoned stoner, please quit trolling this thread, stop trying to force your opinions on us

i'm just trying to make this thread more interesting. instead of it just being a suck ron pauls dick thread, i'm bringing some actual discussion in by being on the other side.

 

[stonedstoner]

hell yeah!

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7392309n

he's also financially supported by stormfront and is down to take financial contributions from known whitepower groups.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Ron told Wolf Blitzer he wasn't aware of the source. On the program, Ron declined returning the contribution... "It's probably already been spent."

 

[HUGE]

So apparently if RP wins Iowa, then it doesn't count, and they are even predicting a "internet terrorist attack" on the vote in Iowa, weird, I thought that they literally counted a show of hands..oh that's right, we are due for a false flag to justify NDAA, and the internet kill switch, might as well get 2 birds stoned at once..

quoted for importance. watch this fucking madhouse.

 

[Mia]

I like a lot of Rp's views on the fed, foreign policy, the constitution.
And I am partial to a lot of libertarian views.
My problem is he's a social darwinist in the tradition of Rand.
for example, he would abolish social security. If you can't survive, well too bad, you didn't deserve it.
But life is not that black and white and I believe we need to have certain programs in place to help people.
The question is what's responsible and makes sense.

 

[dagnabit]

Ron told Wolf Blitzer he wasn't aware of the source. On the program, Ron declined returning the contribution... "It's probably already been spent."

I love Dr Paul's negatives as compared to the status quo...

I mean just abiut any contributor is better than GS and citi being #'s 1&2

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Life isn't black and white but the mystique is.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

What's the story on the newsletters? Two decades, 4 people in the various newsletter organizations and apparently the bad stuff is ghost written?

Bad stuff aside, the newsletters read like fear and loathing.