So i have some strains that i want to keep for as long as possible, has anyone had any experience with keeping the same mom and taking clones from here for over lets say,a year? Or maybe just taking a cutting from a mom and eventually turning that cutting into a mom and continuing doing that for a long period of time? is there any problems with doing this?
Problems with Keeping moms forever
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Herbophile
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I don't keep mother plants but I've been taking clones of clones on the same strain for about 8 years now. I haven't noticed any noticeable decline in its quality and yield.
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as long as you keep the motherplant healthy and alive, there should be no problems.
blessss
as long as you keep the motherplant healthy and alive, there should be no problems.
blessss
Don't let it get rootbound, when it getting a bit large for the container its in, take a round of cuts, then cut off an inch or so all around the root ball and replant it.
Also, on occassion, let them get some direct sunlight. Certain dna repair mechanisms need UV light in order for them to be triggered.
Also, on occassion, let them get some direct sunlight. Certain dna repair mechanisms need UV light in order for them to be triggered.
FreedomFightr
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Good adive Sam
FreedomFightr
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I normaly keep a mom for about 2-3 rotaions then I will flower her. Before I flower her I will take a round of cuts and pick the ones that root first for my next mom.
make some fem seeds.... make it self seed it self and you have have that clone in seed form 
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Re: Problems with Keeping moms forever
I do exactly what the op asked about...no issues.
I do exactly what the op asked about...no issues.
Not all cuts from the same mother are as stong as each other. If replacing a mom, be certain the plant is fully healthy...and keep only the strongest cut for the next mother or you can in time see reductions of positive traits. Not to say that this can't be undone with successive "generations" of healthy cycles. It's not like you've magically altered the genetic coding somehow and removed or changed alleles...
Easy excuse for a poor environment and slack sanitation practices, IMO. Epigenetic drift is possible, but would we visible see such changes in a mere couple of accelerated indoor "seasons"...I've concluded not likely...but I'm no scientist...
That being said, I love root pruning and replanting aka bonsai techniques. Healthy, single plant mom for 3+ years was my longest. Stalk the size of a quarter in a 1/2g container...hehehe. And boy did she feed! Clones galore if you just prune back intelligently...but that is in part the art.
Not too mention Bonsai is good for meditation and was used by zen buddhists as a means to reconnect with water, earth, and sky. Seeing how we as growers depend entirely on the ability to manipulate / control the environmental aspects of earth (soil) and sky (air)... It is good that a person producing the herb be in a bit more harmony with natural order...
dank.Frank
Easy excuse for a poor environment and slack sanitation practices, IMO. Epigenetic drift is possible, but would we visible see such changes in a mere couple of accelerated indoor "seasons"...I've concluded not likely...but I'm no scientist...
That being said, I love root pruning and replanting aka bonsai techniques. Healthy, single plant mom for 3+ years was my longest. Stalk the size of a quarter in a 1/2g container...hehehe. And boy did she feed! Clones galore if you just prune back intelligently...but that is in part the art.
Not too mention Bonsai is good for meditation and was used by zen buddhists as a means to reconnect with water, earth, and sky. Seeing how we as growers depend entirely on the ability to manipulate / control the environmental aspects of earth (soil) and sky (air)... It is good that a person producing the herb be in a bit more harmony with natural order...
dank.Frank
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This will be your best information, thanks FF. Always cut extra clones and make your new mum(s) from the healthiest.
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My oldest mom was 4 years, with no problems.
Once a year or so repot and cut the roots.
I have also taking clones off plants going into flower several times, and repeated with those clones when they go into flower.
I didn't have any problems with the clone after clone after clone method.
Once a year or so repot and cut the roots.
I have also taking clones off plants going into flower several times, and repeated with those clones when they go into flower.
I didn't have any problems with the clone after clone after clone method.
Thats an old mama! lol. What is the point of cutting the roots?
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Nondual
Easier to keep moms in a hydro setup longer than in soil. In soil you really need to trim the rootball fairly regularly and plant back into fresh soil. When creating a new mom ALWAYS use your best clone. I've worked with 20 year old cuts and still vigorous even after repeated replacements of the mom.
I trim and replant about every two months...fwiw. But I like my smaller containers and they suit my needs...
dank.Frank
dank.Frank
I would say it is easier to keep moms in soil then in Hydro. Far less work having them in soil. No having to monitor PH every other day check EC every day or so no having to replace solution every month. Soil is far more forgiving if you are keeping moms over the long term. Miss a few days in hydro and the PH gets out of whack and the plants will do down hill fast. Then your taking less then health clones. Not to mention if your keeping them over years and the power goes out for a few days and air stones stop or the pumps don't come on.
abellguy
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I kept one strain that I received as a cut growing for about 15 years using a mom for usually about 6-8 months at a time then taking the strongest and most vigorously growing cutting and using it as the next mom as has been suggested. I never had a problem or noticed any sign of genetic drift.
Slimm
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I plan on keeping my Mothers in 5.5 air-pots. I imagine I will have to trim this roots every 5-6 months and replant in new soil. They are not supposed to ball up with this particular type of pot but imagine cutting back the roots kind of gives the plant a reason to live. Something to keep its focus on. I'm just guessing of course as I am going into this very green.
No pun intended
Kozmo
No pun intended
Kozmo
