gregor_mendel
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I have done vertical systems before using a pressure regulator on each level, or a ball valve on all levels but the top. It works.
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2-3k sealed Drip Stadium
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headees
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Figured I'd do an update.
Any critiques and criticisms welcome.
My air conditioner broke, so had to set up a vent system on the fly. No co2 now, but at least there will be a break in the power bill lol. Got the AC of Craigslist, basically it was out of one of those overstock warehouses, wont make that mistake again.
Humidity has been fluctuation due to atmospheric conditions (pulling air from the crawl space under the house) looks like it got up to 74% last night but stays around 55-60 when the light are on. Not sure if putting the dehuey on at night would even do anything due to the high volume of air exchange. Temps are good during lights on, 72-79, but it gets down to low 60s at night, and will get much lower I think when it gets colder outside, will have to do something about that. Actually the deheuy on at night might solve that issue sionce it generates heat.
The drip system is working alright, only having problems with a few sites. Those plants have gotten dry and yellowed, but still look like they will be fine. I will probably set up a different configuration for next run. Going to go down to 1gals so I will have to. Fedding them pretty low, 1.5-1.7 EC, will bump it up in the upcoming week. Only a few showing some deficiencies, and its mostly from their drip stakes not giving them enough feed water.
Set up a three way light mover, 2k yo yo on the outside, and a 600 MH watt moving horizontal in the middle. Having some issues with the wire staying on the pulleys, so its not working at the moment. Next run I think Im going to pony up and just get 4 600 watts, 2 stacked on each side and then use the one I have in the middle. Much better light distribution that way, I think you sacrifice some bud size when moving the bulbs rather than having them stationary, but for now it will have to do.
First time running these(serious AK), its a seed/pheno hunt run, thought they were going to stretch more. Ive got some more sativa stuff I popped for next run(Grindhouse Ultra Sonja, Chems/sours), but I will probably pick the best couple phenos out of these and do a mono crop, because these look like they will YIELD, as long as the quality is there anyway. Vegged right and dialed, this room full of 1 gal AK's would kick ass I think.
They are at 21 days give or take a day, starting to stink.
Sorry about the pics, just used my phone.
Sativa pheno
Any critiques and criticisms welcome.
My air conditioner broke, so had to set up a vent system on the fly. No co2 now, but at least there will be a break in the power bill lol. Got the AC of Craigslist, basically it was out of one of those overstock warehouses, wont make that mistake again.
Humidity has been fluctuation due to atmospheric conditions (pulling air from the crawl space under the house) looks like it got up to 74% last night but stays around 55-60 when the light are on. Not sure if putting the dehuey on at night would even do anything due to the high volume of air exchange. Temps are good during lights on, 72-79, but it gets down to low 60s at night, and will get much lower I think when it gets colder outside, will have to do something about that. Actually the deheuy on at night might solve that issue sionce it generates heat.
The drip system is working alright, only having problems with a few sites. Those plants have gotten dry and yellowed, but still look like they will be fine. I will probably set up a different configuration for next run. Going to go down to 1gals so I will have to. Fedding them pretty low, 1.5-1.7 EC, will bump it up in the upcoming week. Only a few showing some deficiencies, and its mostly from their drip stakes not giving them enough feed water.
Set up a three way light mover, 2k yo yo on the outside, and a 600 MH watt moving horizontal in the middle. Having some issues with the wire staying on the pulleys, so its not working at the moment. Next run I think Im going to pony up and just get 4 600 watts, 2 stacked on each side and then use the one I have in the middle. Much better light distribution that way, I think you sacrifice some bud size when moving the bulbs rather than having them stationary, but for now it will have to do.
First time running these(serious AK), its a seed/pheno hunt run, thought they were going to stretch more. Ive got some more sativa stuff I popped for next run(Grindhouse Ultra Sonja, Chems/sours), but I will probably pick the best couple phenos out of these and do a mono crop, because these look like they will YIELD, as long as the quality is there anyway. Vegged right and dialed, this room full of 1 gal AK's would kick ass I think.
They are at 21 days give or take a day, starting to stink.
Sorry about the pics, just used my phone.
Sativa pheno
Still looking good, but I hear yas bro, it's all about the sttttrrreetch when growing vert 
I/m surprised they didn't stretch more though...
Your right about running the dehumidifier in grow space... There will be far too much air exchange for the dehuy to do it's thing.... Can you set things up so the intake air is getting dehumidified before entering grow room?
A heater in the grow room for lights off will also help lower humidity.
I/m surprised they didn't stretch more though...Your right about running the dehumidifier in grow space... There will be far too much air exchange for the dehuy to do it's thing.... Can you set things up so the intake air is getting dehumidified before entering grow room?
A heater in the grow room for lights off will also help lower humidity.
headees
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Yea, thing is I cut them down a couple times before flowering thinking they were going to over stretch the space
Ive been reading about AK though and people say that the majority of the phenos stay short. There is one sativa pheno that went like 2.5x its height, doubt it will be a keeper though. Got some more sativa stuff for next time.
Yea I think I will have to just set up a lung room and dehumidify the air before it goes in.
Ive been reading about AK though and people say that the majority of the phenos stay short. There is one sativa pheno that went like 2.5x its height, doubt it will be a keeper though. Got some more sativa stuff for next time.
Yea I think I will have to just set up a lung room and dehumidify the air before it goes in.
ajc0k
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In my 2 grows worth of experience with vert, plants will hardly stretch at all unless your bulbs are wayy up there above the plants. my bulbs were never far above the plants, but I was running east coast sour diesels from floor to ceiling, and their stretch was mostly just density in the foilage and growing towards the bulbs, very very little vertical growth. so maybe next time veg those girls out until they reach the tier/plant pots above them, that's if you can't raise the bulbs above the plants.
I've noticed what you say ajc0K 1st hand not that I've done a vert grow but a friend does in a small space with 1 x 600w and his plants stay really short, except for the sourd x ssh... When I've grown the same strains using horizontal lighting they always get taller.
He uses horizontal lighting to veg now to get some height. I'll tell him to try raising the light as IIRC tree growers that used to do krusty style buckets ran the light high for the stretch for the first few weeks
He uses horizontal lighting to veg now to get some height. I'll tell him to try raising the light as IIRC tree growers that used to do krusty style buckets ran the light high for the stretch for the first few weeks
Headees - Looking good man!
headees
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I dont know, I actually did raise the bulbs the first two weeks. The top row was still getting vertical light, but the bottom 3 would have to stretch for it.
I think genetics and how the strain responds to being topped/trained has a lot to do with how much they stretch. Seems like some strains wont stretch as much if topped multiple times, or if at all. Im guessing root mass and if they are bound has something to do with it also.
My first stadium that I ran years ago(this is only my second) I monocropped Pure Power Plant, which is mostly sativa . I vegged to about that size of these at the flip, maybe 12-14 inches, and they stretched almost 3x. I actually had to use some Humbolts Gravity(never again) to halt the vertical growth. Total walls of weed, could barely see the pots in the room. Pulled well over 1gpw. I wont hit near that this run I dont think, stretchy strains really are key for maximizing vert room outputs.
headees
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Headees - Looking good man!
Thanks mega, Im just trying to keep up with all you guys!
headees
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Ok coming into the home stretch.
Pump came disconnected, so that didnt get water the past 3 days, aside from a couple plants no harm done for the most part though. Its been raining a lot the last couple days, so the humidity is really high right now, its got me pretty nervous, outside temps are also around 60 so it gotten up to the high 80's in the room the past day or two. Temps supposed to drop tonight, and it has been getting down to around 60 at night except for the last few days, but Im not seeing any color which I was hoping for. They havent yellowed for the most part( H&G has a lot of N), so thats what is keeping them from getting some color I think. Probably going to start flushing early next week. They look like they could go about two more weeks, although some look almost done now.
Its hard to get any decent pics, one my camera isnt great, and two its REALLY hard to get around inside the room. Between the lights and buds, once I get in there I pretty much have to stay in one place. Anyway here are a few crappy pics. There are some crazy floral masses in there, wish I could get some decent shots.
Pump came disconnected, so that didnt get water the past 3 days, aside from a couple plants no harm done for the most part though. Its been raining a lot the last couple days, so the humidity is really high right now, its got me pretty nervous, outside temps are also around 60 so it gotten up to the high 80's in the room the past day or two. Temps supposed to drop tonight, and it has been getting down to around 60 at night except for the last few days, but Im not seeing any color which I was hoping for. They havent yellowed for the most part( H&G has a lot of N), so thats what is keeping them from getting some color I think. Probably going to start flushing early next week. They look like they could go about two more weeks, although some look almost done now.
Its hard to get any decent pics, one my camera isnt great, and two its REALLY hard to get around inside the room. Between the lights and buds, once I get in there I pretty much have to stay in one place. Anyway here are a few crappy pics. There are some crazy floral masses in there, wish I could get some decent shots.
headees
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Thanks man, this might make up for last rounds trainwreck of a grow, actually probably not lol. But yea, there are some beasts in there, just buds on top of buds. If the quality is there, this might be a winner. Just got to veg them out more to fill all the available space. Im switching some stuff up for next round, new drip system, and more plants in 1 gal instead of two. I dont think I will have enough Ak clones to run a mono crop next round, so probably will have to substitute some other of the other strains Ive got. I dont know we will see.
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DHF
Can`t see the pics.......Grrrr......Anyways....Good luck Bro.....Hope harvey`s good to yas....
Peace...DHF...
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Peace...DHF...
......dj_greenthumb
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Really nice. Keep it up!
sublimesmoker
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Killer pic's man, stadium's def kick ass. I was wondering u said u were going to go with more 1 gal bags, r u getting about the same yeilds as with the 2 gal, or is it just a matter of more plants=more yeild?
headees
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Thanks for stopping by DHF! I was hoping to ask you a couple questions about your drip system, and ventilation. Not sure why you cant see pics, that happens to me sometimes though. Most of them are out of focus or the lighting is bad anyway, I will try and take some better ones at harvest.
Thanks greenthumb
Hi Sublime, thanks. Well I dont know what i will pull from this one, but I ran a stadium before with 2k and around 100(I think a little less) 1 gal bags, hand watered soil with PBP(which isnt the best yielding nute line) and pulled 5.5#. Nothing earth shattering but for my first(and sadly only) run it was pretty good considering nothing was dialed in. Im not sure what I will pull of these but, I think I will be lucky to get that number, one thing they weren't vegged long enough to utilize all available light real estate.
With coco, a smaller amount of medium can support a larger plant than in soil. Considering Im growing relatively small plants, I just think one gallon is enough for a plant in this system. Sure they will yield slightly less, but having many more of them will definitely make up for it.
So yea long story short, I think numbers=yield
Thanks greenthumb
Hi Sublime, thanks. Well I dont know what i will pull from this one, but I ran a stadium before with 2k and around 100(I think a little less) 1 gal bags, hand watered soil with PBP(which isnt the best yielding nute line) and pulled 5.5#. Nothing earth shattering but for my first(and sadly only) run it was pretty good considering nothing was dialed in. Im not sure what I will pull of these but, I think I will be lucky to get that number, one thing they weren't vegged long enough to utilize all available light real estate.
With coco, a smaller amount of medium can support a larger plant than in soil. Considering Im growing relatively small plants, I just think one gallon is enough for a plant in this system. Sure they will yield slightly less, but having many more of them will definitely make up for it.
So yea long story short, I think numbers=yield
sublimesmoker
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Thanks for the reply headees, coco def is sounding better and better its just hard to switch somethin like that up ya know, but the results speak for themselves i guess. I know hand watering sucks.
headees
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Man I scared away from coco for years, just was getting great results with soil and didnt want to risk any problems or do any extra work. This is only my first run but it was seriously a cake walk. Ive never done hydro either, so having automated watering feels like cheating to me, lol. I mean I used to sweat watering a full room of plants, started to really hate it, so this is great. Now I just need a bigger res! Ha ha
Thanks Screws!
headees
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Well I found some budrot, something that I have been really scared about lately with all this rain and the amount of large buds in that small area. It was only one small lower bud on a plant that is in the fans blindspot, and doesn't get hit with much airflow, but it has got me pretty stirred up. I searched everywhere that I physically could and havent seen any more, but I cant see everywhere. I was hoping to take them another week and a half, but now not sure. No rain forecasted for the next week though...
