http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mohwrs3yp7o
for your viewing pleasure...nice little piece from the TYT Network.
for your viewing pleasure...nice little piece from the TYT Network.
ROTFL!
This thread is much better now. No more long diatribes from programmed sheeple. Just short ones from programmed sheeple.
Remember.... only the sheep really take offense to being called sheep. The rest of us know better and can laugh at the mis-informant without worries.
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wow dag, u sure like to put words in peoples mouths, dont ya?
My response about roemer was for DB.
You can tell because HE said he would consider switching... But its nice to know you will be voting for bush's 4th term.
Goldman Sachs thanks you for supporting their candidate.
can you tell me OGD...
if you were able to restructure government (either locally or globally depending on if you would have one world government)to your liking how would it look?
what does "workers' government" look like?
ohh did you not say roemer was the only candidate that would get you to consider switching?Most of the time it's the only way to make an argument - his own. Need proof? Look no further than the very next opportunity.
erase context - insert troll
speaking for OGD now?Probably as stark as dag government.
Too bad the $650k study he helped bankroll (his own people) corroborated what the scientific community has said for decades. That's why the candidates have softened their rhetoric while IC stoners are still ragging the e-mails and urbanized temperature test locations.The GOP's Talking Points to Spin Occupy Wall Street
By Erik Hayden | The Atlantic Wire
GOP pollster Frank Luntz has advice for Republicans about how to talk about Occupy Wall Street: don't use the word "capitalism," say "I get it" to the protesters and never use the word "bonus" to talk about executive bonuses. The tips, as Yahoo News' Chris Moody recounted from a session with the Republican Governors Association last week, are vintage Luntz. His book has the subtitle: "It's not what you say, it's what people hear" and he's also helped usher in plenty of language shifts throughout the Bush years, like swapping the term "global warming" to"climate change."
Lol. In other words - if you can't prove your message is sound after decades of a shrinking middle class, blather em with MORE bullshit AND NOTHING ELSE. They want to make folks think that protesters think capitalism is evil. ROFL. Crime and fraud becomes a way of life at the top. Greed is the evil within capitalism. But human beings, not the system are what gives capitalism a black eye.It's a good guess that the messaging tips for the GOP about the Occupy movement will show up in Republican rhetoric. And Chris Moody arranges his quotes from the session into helpful bullet points. Here are just a few selections from Luntz's advice:1. Don't say 'capitalism.'Ok, so swap "capitalism" with "free markets," then:
"I'm trying to get that word removed and we're replacing it with either 'economic freedom' or 'free market,' " Luntz said. "The public . . . still prefers capitalism to socialism, but they think capitalism is immoral. And if we're seen as defenders of quote, Wall Street, end quote, we've got a problem."
6. Don't ever say you're willing to 'compromise.'Sure, can't compromise with Occupiers. But then:
"If you talk about 'compromise,' they'll say you're selling out. Your side doesn't want you to 'compromise.' What you use in that to replace it with is 'cooperation.' It means the same thing. But cooperation means you stick to your principles but still get the job done. Compromise says that you're selling out those principles."
7. The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it.'So, to recap: don't be in favor of compromising, but still make sure you properly feel the pain--vaguely--with the frustrations of occupiers while directing them to GOP talking points and peppering the conversation with the words "free markets."
"First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system."
Then, he instructed, offer Republican solutions to the problem.
Luntz is your typical modern day propagandist, but it's not like the blue team isn't doing the exact same thing.
In the 60's Progressive became a dirty word so, let's change it to "Liberal." Sounds much better. Never mind it's the complete opposite of what a classic liberal is. How many words for spending projects do we have now? "Stimulus, Investing" Or how about monetizing debt? "Large Scale Asset Purchases" "Quantitative Easing" Those sound very technical and Ivy Leaguish.
Words spewing from the politicians mouths and the words they use to cloak their BS in has rendered language almost useless. Nothing more than empty rhetoric and obfuscation poll tested for mass consumption. All of which advances the agenda of the ruling class (Wall Street). Red team and blue team are equally guilty IMO.
Ain't that the truth.i mean shit when GWB or clownshoes palin are what passes for "conservative" you know somebody has been fucking with the dictionary...
Rewording the baloney doesn't change the math.The GOP's Talking Points To Spin Occupy Wall Street
Eric Hayden
GOP pollster Frank Luntz has advice for Republicans on how to talk about Occupy Wall Street:
Let's see how this works:don't use the word "capitalism," say "I get it" to the protesters
How 'bout dog treats?and never use the word "bonus" to talk about executive bonuses.
Textbook swindler.The tips, as Yahoo News' Chris Moody recounted from a session with the Republican Governors Association last week, are vintage Luntz. His book has the subtitle: "It's not what you say, it's what people hear"
Frank's planning the blame game because even his recalcitrant scientists agree with the community. So there's nothing left but to portray Republicans as defenders of the environment - the same way they tried to say they wanted to regulate F&F (and never did.)and he's also helped usher in plenty of language shifts throughout the Bush years, like swapping the term "global warming" with "climate change."
Franks already has a problem and it's congenital. He's a liar.It's a good guess that the messaging tips for the GOP about the Occupy movement will show up in Republican rhetoric. And Chris Moody arranges his quotes from the session into helpful bullet points. Here are just a few selections from Luntz's advice:1. Don't say 'capitalism.'
"I'm trying to get that word removed and we're replacing it with either 'economic freedom' or 'free market,' " Luntz said. "The public . . . still prefers capitalism to socialism, but they think capitalism is immoral. And if we're seen as defenders of quote, Wall Street, end quote, we've got a problem."
6. Don't ever say you're willing to 'compromise.'
"If you talk about 'compromise,' they'll say you're selling out. Your side doesn't want you to 'compromise.' What you use in that to replace it with is 'cooperation.' It means the same thing. But cooperation means you stick to your principles but still get the job done. Compromise says that you're selling out those principles."
7. The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it.'
"First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system."
Then, he instructed, offer Republican solutions to the problem.
And if you don't compromise, "feel the pain" is more bullshit.So, to recap: don't be in favor of compromising, but still make sure you properly feel the pain--vaguely--with the frustrations of occupiers while directing them to GOP talking points and peppering the conversation with the words "free markets."
Luntz is your typical modern day propagandist, but it's not like the blue team isn't doing the exact same thing.
In the 60's Progressive became a dirty word so, let's change it to "Liberal." Sounds much better. Never mind it's the complete opposite of what a classic liberal is. How many words for spending projects do we have now? "Stimulus, Investing" Or how about monetizing debt? "Large Scale Asset Purchases" "Quantitative Easing" Those sound very technical and Ivy Leaguish.
Words spewing from the politicians mouths and the words they use to cloak their BS in has rendered language almost useless. Nothing more than empty rhetoric and obfuscation poll tested for mass consumption. All of which advances the agenda of the ruling class (Wall Street). Red team and blue team are equally guilty IMO.
when i was younger there was a marine/viet nam vet vet that lived close to us. his stance on government was that they should stay the fuck out of our lives as much as possible and that as individuals we should be able to do what we want unless it hurts someone else.
That's good. Because you don't typically see liberals relying on the literal interpretations they know are tempered with the next opinion. Liberals typically know they're free to swing their first. But unlike freedom fighters, liberals know the swing has to stop short of contact (or it's no longer free to those getting hit.)people use to call him a liberal (when he was not in the room). he is no longer with us, and it's a good thing because if he heard himself being called liberal these days ....... i would not want to be the one who said it
They're a reflection of the country's power that has shifted from one individual-one vote to 1% has 40% of the wealth. If I want to win an election to thwart your policy, I'm going to play the money game if that's what it takes. It's unfortunate and needs reform so neither of us risks being co-opted.red and blue have played us all against each other ..... those clowns have been on the same team for years.
treasonous lying cocksuckers each and every one