Droopy leafs and brown spots

[Ultra Current]

Awesome. Thank you for the info. Before lowering my nutes would you suggest a 24hr flush with just ph'd water?

Your welcome. Please do not flush with just water. Here is what to do:

1. Drain out your entire system.

2. Fill your system half way up with tap water if it avoids your roots. If it doesn't avoid the roots then fill in all the way.

3. Add in 3 mL per gallon of VEG

4. Make sure that your main water pump is on when you do this so it mixes through the system and wait 10 minutes for it to mix.

5. Add in 2 mL per gallon of Micro.

6. Same as step 4.

7. Add in 1 mL per gallon of Bloom.

Note: if I read your nutrient schedule correctly then I believe that this says it's the 1st week schedule and that is where I would be with your seedlings at those heights. If I have the wrong schedule then go to your week one and use that one.

8. Adjust your pH to 6.0

9. Raise your humidity to 50%

Now you will be good to go but give it a good 3 days to see progress. If you don't see it getting better then report back and let me know but watch what happens. I would also like to know your air pump size and your water pump size. Make sure you have at least an air pump that is at the rate of 1/2 your system water. For example if your system has 160 liters of solution then make sure your air pump is at least 80 liters per hour which is half. Good luck and I'm here for you. Feel free to PM me any time if you have problems and like my advise.

 

[Ultra Current]

The last advise that I would like to give you is this. In DWC, things can to wrong fast. I don't believe that you have root problems yet but I am sure that you have bad things in your water. Before you take this next step, you must make sure your plants come back to health so give it time. Once they come back to health, please add in 1 mL of Clorox Bleach (non scented) per 44 gallons of solution. At this rate you will have a residual level of .50 ppm of chlorine. Do this every 5 days and you will not have root problems. I've done many tests on this and that's how I know. It's not from someone saying I think.

 

[NeWcS]

Thank you so much. I did as advised and will let you know how things go. As far as the pH goes should I set it to 6.0 and leave it or check and adjust it back to 6.0 as needed?

 

[Ultra Current]

Thank you so much. I did as advised and will let you know how things go. As far as the pH goes should I set it to 6.0 and leave it or check and adjust it back to 6.0 as needed?

I wouldn't set it and forget it like those informercials. If it rises to 6.2 then you can take it down to 5.8. I never stay out of the range of 5.8 and 6.2. Hopefully your pH doesn't go crazy within the next 24 hours cause that could mean you may be getting root problems. it is possible that your pH will drift more than I would like cause of your problems but if it does just keep fixing it and it should fix itself when the plants recover and stabalize which I would expect to see within 5 days. You should be alright but check back in a few days to give us an update. Good luck!

 

[NeWcS]

Should I remove the damaged leafs or just leave them be?

 

[Ultra Current]

Should I remove the damaged leafs or just leave them be?

In answering this question I must keep in mind how small your plants are. If the leaves look similar to your first post then I would keep them on for now. Those will turn into bottom leaves once the plant grows and when she is nice and healthy then you can prune her. I don't like taking leaves off of plants that small unless it's really bad. You may have some stunted growth for a few because of the stress and problems but what I would like you to pay attention to is the new growth that will come out of the top shoot of the plant. You will know that you are on the right track when that new growth is nice and heathy.

 

[NeWcS]

I am wondering if the issue is my tap water? It's 250 ppm and 8.1 Ph. Wonder if I should switch to bottled water

 

[Stress_test]

Your welcome. Please do not flush with just water. Here is what to do:

1. Drain out your entire system.

2. Fill your system half way up with tap water if it avoids your roots. If it doesn't avoid the roots then fill in all the way.

3. Add in 3 mL per gallon of VEG

4. Make sure that your main water pump is on when you do this so it mixes through the system and wait 10 minutes for it to mix.

5. Add in 2 mL per gallon of Micro.

6. Same as step 4.

7. Add in 1 mL per gallon of Bloom.

Note: if I read your nutrient schedule correctly then I believe that this says it's the 1st week schedule and that is where I would be with your seedlings at those heights. If I have the wrong schedule then go to your week one and use that one.

8. Adjust your pH to 6.0

9. Raise your humidity to 50%

Now you will be good to go but give it a good 3 days to see progress. If you don't see it getting better then report back and let me know but watch what happens. I would also like to know your air pump size and your water pump size. Make sure you have at least an air pump that is at the rate of 1/2 your system water. For example if your system has 160 liters of solution then make sure your air pump is at least 80 liters per hour which is half. Good luck and I'm here for you. Feel free to PM me any time if you have problems and like my advise.

Good advice... Pretty much along the lines I would have suggested. However I prefer H2O2 instead of bleach, but many people swear by the bleach too.

 

[Ultra Current]

I am wondering if the issue is my tap water? It's 250 ppm and 8.1 Ph. Wonder if I should switch to bottled water

I'm assuming that this isn't your first grow with this water. If you had a heathy start with your water from the beginning then it should be alright. If you make the switch now then you wouldn't know cause you didn't give my steps a chance to play out. Keep an eye on them and make sure that they don't get worse after 48 hours from the point that you refilled the system. 250 may be high but ive seen much higher with great results. General hydroponics makes a good 3 part for hard water and I personally use this breams but not the hard water one. I love the results and it may help to have a nutrient specifically for hard water. I'm not saying that you won't be all good right now though. You have to be patient cause things don't fix themselves on a snap of a finger. It takes time for things to happen. Personally I would hold tight for a couple days. Don't worry if things go bad for you I'll order you a pack of something nice from seedbay on me from a really reputable breeder. I just hope that your roots are still nice and that's another thing that I would be paying attention to. I would also see if the solution in the system starts to smell funny which would be a sign of root problems. If you used the bleach from the start then you wouldn't have to worry about your roots. My water is so bad that when I don't use bleach, I lose most of my crops within 2 weeks. Without bleach I wouldn't be able to grow in dwc in the city that I'm in with all the bacteria and fungus in my water.

 

[NeWcS]

I will keep a close eye on them. This is my 5th grow. Not sure what I did wrong. The thing that puzzles of is both plants are really small and I am using different nutes on each. As far as bleach goes I am only running my plants in 3.5 gal buckets. Not sure what the ratio would be. Like 1 drop.

 

[Ultra Current]

I will keep a close eye on them. This is my 5th grow. Not sure what I did wrong. The thing that puzzles of is both plants are really small and I am using different nutes on each. As far as bleach goes I am only running my plants in 3.5 gal buckets. Not sure what the ratio would be. Like 1 drop.

Oh your in DWC. I thought you were in rdwc. That's actually good for these problems because your roots won't contaminate the others in case of problems now. Don't use the bleach unless your plants are healthy cause it can kill unhealthy plants pretty fast. For heathy plants in 3.5 gallons use at this rate to get .50 ppm chlorine with "clorox bleach".

A drop is different depending what you are using. First you will need to count how many drops that you have in a mL. My syringe contains 22 drops per mL and at that rate you would use 1 drop for 2 gallons. If your syringe is close to that then you would use 2 drops per container every 5 days when your plants are healthy. I know that this is the right amount because I have a lab grade chlorine meter and have done many tests. The poster above suggested H2O2 and I don't disagree bit I wouldn't suggest it as a preventative measure. Some people can do great with it so I'm not knocking it. I lost a whole room last month using H2o2 but I was testing it real high to see the results. I'm still in the testing phase with h2o2 but I'm not saying that it is bad cause I know it has it's uses.

 

[NeWcS]

I just have a feeling that it has something to do with my water, buckets or medium cause it's effecting both plant's

 

[NeWcS]

I am close to the point of popping some new seeds and cleaning the crap out of my system. I need to get this fixed so I don't run out of meds before this grow is finished

 

[NeWcS]

Lights just came on and if anything they are worse. Another thing I did this grow that I haven't done in other grow is I put pea gravel in the bottom of my net pots before I put in the grow stones. Anyone think this could have anything to do with this? What stumps me is its happening with both plants in the tent.

Something just dawned on me. I reused the medium from my last grow(Which did fine). I did rinse it with water first but wonder if something got into it during the down time.

 

[NeWcS]

Well I am going to cut my losses before I put in too much time on these. I am going to super clean my system and buy new medium. I want to thank everyone who helped me with this. I just dont have time to waste so I am just going to germ 2 more seeds.

 

[Ultra Current]

Well I am going to cut my losses before I put in too much time on these. I am going to super clean my system and buy new medium. I want to thank everyone who helped me with this. I just dont have time to waste so I am just going to germ 2 more seeds.

Germ the 2 seeds but things take time to fix themselves. They are going to look worse from the over feeding you already did and the pH problem. It takes a few days to see progress. Give it a couple more days before you through in the towel. If your roots are good you will be fine. It's your grow but if I gave up like this I wouldn't have what I have now. It takes time to germ anyway and it's not taking up any space for that. I don't know what those pea things are that you speak of. Reusing hydroton is fine but you should have sterilized it first. I doubt that is your problem cause you said you had nice roots. Don't give up now.

 

[NeWcS]

Germ the 2 seeds but things take time to fix themselves. They are going to look worse from the over feeding you already did and the pH problem. It takes a few days to see progress. Give it a couple more days before you through in the towel. If your roots are good you will be fine. It's your grow but if I gave up like this I wouldn't have what I have now. It takes time to germ anyway and it's not taking up any space for that. I don't know what those pea things are that you speak of. Reusing hydroton is fine but you should have sterilized it first. I doubt that is your problem cause you said you had nice roots. Don't give up now.

Already pulled the plug. I did want to thank you for all the advice and help. I just dont have the time or know how to deal with sick plants right now.

 

[Ultra Current]

Already pulled the plug. I did want to thank you for all the advice and help. I just dont have the time or know how to deal with sick plants right now.

Germinating your seeds wasn't going to get in the way from fixing your plants. I was trying to let you know that it takes time to see progress and it's just not a snap of a finger. When you fix the problem, it takes a few days to see it, not one. Good luck on your next grow. For your type of personality, I would grow in soil. It's a lot easier and has a buffer.

 

[weedss]

what about the water temp?. it's pretty considerable.

 

[NeWcS]

I get what you're saying I just want a clean start. I will pm you tonight when I get home.