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GHS - Hawaiian Snow Feminized

smilley

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Hi nameless, thanks for dropping by.

Primobud, its not the inlaws, but somebody else that requires stealth mode at all times. They're due to arrive on the 17th of Dec and stay for about 4 days. The SLSD males will have 27 12/12 cycles by that time which is just about where I figure they'll start dropping pollen. Option 1 is to chop all the males and start the breeding program over early in the new year. Option 2 is to put the males back in the veg room when they show sex, cut clones and continue the breeding program for the final crop. Option 3 is to leave the males in the flower room and seed the entire crop. Option 4 involves putting the male in a large cardboard box in the garage while the visitors are here hopefully salvaging the male plant or its pollen. Option 5 is the males will drop their pollen before the visitors arrive and I can selectively pollenate the clones as planned. The way my luck has been going lately, I'm not counting on the last option but it is a possibility.

The SLSD plants still haven't shown sex after 7 cycles of 12/12. They are really stretching shoved in between the clones and the vertical fan. I'm sure that by 10 cycles I'll know the sex. Having stretched so much, I'm not sure if it'll be worth repotting the females and flowering them out. We'll just have to wait and see how things shape up.

I'm going to probably chop the remaining 2 plants from the first crop next weekend and focus exclusively on the clones and seedlings. Its also just about time to cut new clones for the final crop of the season.
 

primobud

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Option one is my choice! I took 2 clones each off the US'j I gave our bud. I've got a plan to keep things small that way I don't need any exhaust the ex will see. I'll call ya in a week or so. Glad to hear the old confidence coming back dude. Remember me in July when my clones all overheated ha ha ha. I was gonna sell my lights and take up making bird houses.
 

smilley

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I think you mean option 2 primobud. Its good to hear you have things going on. You don't have to vent outside, if your carbon filter is working correctly you should be able to dump the exhaust in the laundry area and still keep the house smelling sweet.
 

nameless

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Remember me in July when my clones all overheated ha ha ha. I was gonna sell my lights and take up making bird houses.

got a good laugh out of that one. ive felt the same before, except i was going to go back worse than birdhouses. im so glad i didnt
 

smilley

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Today is day F09 for the SLSD seedlings. I pulled them out of the flowering room and was able to sex all 6. The 3 on the left are males and the 3 on the right are females.

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I wasn't really impressed with the females (stretchy and branchless) due to the small pots and cramped conditions so I went ahead and composted them. Of the 3 remaining males I've chosen 2 that have a nice diesel smell when rubbing the stocks. I re-potted them into 2 gal pots and they're positioned directly behind the shortest clones in the donut. These males won't win any beauty contests, but they're good representative breeding stock for the SLSD.

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I wish I could get the males up close and personal to the 600hps to try and speed them up a bit, but until I harvest one of the plants from first crop I don't have any room. I'll probably harvest the other trellised plant this weekend and then all the plants will have proper face time with the 600hps.
 

smilley

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Ok, I was in the grow room watering the mother plants and smoking a reefer of the smaller trellised plant that I harvested a few days ago. I think the term that nameless used was "faceripper" and that pretty well describes the buzz. It's a good thing too, the plant dried down to 25g of good bud and about 10g of good quality trim. I was hoping for 50 -75g before the timer incident so at least a 50% reduction in yield. I'm starting to believe that the "nute issues" back at mid flower were really timer issues. I've been feeding the clones 50% more nutes than the first crop and no issues at all. Once I've got things squared away, I'll detail the new feeding regime.

I'm gonna go ahead and harvest the other trellised plant on the weekend. I need the space and I need more weed to smoke as well. There'll be a lot of good trim come off that plant as new buds have sprung out everywhere but they're so tiny they'll all end up in the trim pile. I'll let the keeper keep flowering. It's got new buds everywhere too, but I have the room for it and I won't need the weed for at least a month if I harvest the other trellised plant. It looks like it'll yield pretty good if I let it go another 4 weeks, but don't forget that'll be 15 weeks.
 
Too bad about the females, I have some in what looks like the same containers (only 0.4l right?) and although they arent stretchy, they have veeeery limited secondary growth and have been under 12/12 for roughly 10 days. 5-6 nodes each, no sex yet though.

Im guessing we're in the same cramped boat lol :) I just dont wanna transplant and waste space before I know the sex for sure :)

That faceripper sure sounds like the kind I want! :D
 

smilley

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Too bad about the females, I have some in what looks like the same containers (only 0.4l right?) and although they arent stretchy, they have veeeery limited secondary growth and have been under 12/12 for roughly 10 days. 5-6 nodes each, no sex yet though.

Im guessing we're in the same cramped boat lol :) I just dont wanna transplant and waste space before I know the sex for sure :)

That faceripper sure sounds like the kind I want! :D

Hi Guffetroid, sounds exactly the same to me. I would have topped and repotted all of them if I'd had the room just like you. That limited secondary growth that you mentioned makes it difficult to cut clones as well. I hope they all turn out to be females for you (unless you're hoping for a male or two).

My houseguests have confirmed arrival on the 17th of Dec so its a race to make pollen before that time. I'm gonna see if I can get a clone or 2 off the males to hedge my possibilities, if not I'll put 1 of the males back into the veg room, top it and cut a clone or 2 when it branches out. Its gonna be real close weather the males are ready by then, but they still have a couple of weeks. I'll post a pic on the weekend update to illustrate their progress.
 

smilley

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Here's the harvest pics of the large trellised plant at day F94. She really would have been something if she hadn't revegged. None of the buds have that "A" bud appearance so I'll grade it "B" bud. The good news is there is at least double the yield of the other trellised plant and plenty of excellent quality trim for hash and oil. She would have needed another 5 or 6 weeks to finish properly so I'm ok with chopping her now. Lotsa resin.



And a few more showing the manicured bud................

 

smilley

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A couple of pics of the veg room. I cut 18 new clones and I have have plenty more to choose from if these don't make it.

 

smilley

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And here's some miscellaneous pics from the flower room. The clones are all 3 weeks into flower and the keeper at the back is 11 1/2 weeks.
At the very front is the 2 SLSD males. Things are starting to rock & roll again.........................

 

nameless

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hell yeah things are starting to rock and roll again! im so glad to hear that the high is on point! hope your scheduling works out well with the males and ill, ill be tuning in for sure to check the progress
 

smilley

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Hi nameless. The potency didn't seem to suffer from the timer incident, just the yield and appearance. I can't say for certain that the HS is stronger than the SLSD that I've been growing and smoking for the last 3 years, but at least as strong. Potency is a subjective thing sometimes, but I've been a chronic smoker for over 35 years and believe me, I know bud-lite when I smoke it and this HS is not bud-lite.

The timing on the males is gonna be close. I've decided to just let them both keep flowering and hope for the best. I'm going to put them under mrs smilley's 1000hps in the "geranium room" but I have to wait a couple more days as we've had a homecare nurse coming to the house and she'll be coming once more. The geranium room is public space in our home so no male SLSD's in there until the coast is clear. Also, no SLSD's in there after Dec 17am. As I'm sure everyone is aware, security and stealth trump all issues at the smilley compound so if I have to shelve the breeding project till the final run of the season, its ok.

This season, my grow has been punctuated with equipment failures. First the timer issue and now my heat mat has crapped out. I was concerned yesterday when the temps weren't rising properly, and sure as shit when I opened the veg room this morning the soil temp was at 68F. So now I've got them on a heating pad and things are better, but there is only enough room for 2 6-packs so I'm gonna pitch 6. I'll cut a second run of clones in about 3 weeks.


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smilley

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This is mrs smilley's geranium room. There are other plants in there but it's predominately geraniums. Some are over 15 years old. This is where the breeding is going to take place.



Here's a pic of one of the males at day F16. I'm sure it'll start dropping pollen within 7 days and probably sooner. I'm going to pollinate 2 plants. One of the keeper pheno and a clone from the large trellised plant. That'll give me lots of variety for the next couple of years.

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smilley

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Hey primobud, good to see you around. She says hi back to you too.

I weighed the dried weed today and the large trellised plant yielded 58g of bud and 35g of good trim. I'm sure it would have been at least double if the grow hadn't have gone off the rails. Anyway, I've got enough bud to get me through to the next harvest so I'm a happy camper. I'll probably harvest the keeper plant in about 4 weeks, we'll see.

The males still haven't dropped any pollen yet so its a waiting game for now.
 

smilley

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It was wake & bake with Hawaiian Snow this morning. I love Saturday mornings when everone's asleep and I can spend some quality time with my plants and get stoned. I smoked a spliff of the large trellised plant. I was wondering if I got a buzz or not and then 10 minutes later it was like the weed had snuck up and smacked me in the head. I was ripped. Very nice clear soaring high.

Here's the 2 females that comprise the breeding project. The one on the left is a clone of the large trellised plant. When I put it into flower I chopped it back severely thinking it would stretch like crazy, but due to the 2 gal pot, it won't finish as big as the keeper clone next to it. If I'd known at the time that it wasn't going to stretch so much, I would have just given it a light trim and it'd be the same size as the keeper clone. These 2 plants have 28 12/12 cycles.

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smilley

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Here's some close-ups of the keeper clone (the one on the right). Its looking great for 28 days of flowering.

 

smilley

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And a couple of the trellised clone (left one). Although it has the same number of flowering days, its not nearly as advanced bud-wise. From the first crop I know that this plant will take longer to finish, but because of the timer incident I don't really know how much longer. Probably no more than 2 - 3 weeks.

 

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