Medical Supply Questions.

[Pangea]

Are there any non profit medical outlets, dispensaries, collectives,clinics, or large medical growers?

Do they offer any actuall transparancy for their operations?

Are the high prices a result of not producing their own medicine thus having to purchase at regular black market prices?

Just doing some research, any help would be appreciated.

 

[Guest 150314]

lol no, dispensary is illegal most of them dont pay tax, a big medical grower has to sell excess illegally to cover overhead and turn a profit on his investment of money and time.

you don't see much transparancy in legal retail/production business so goodluck finding it in grey area medical marijuana.

the only way to get transparency is to do it yourself

 

[Pangea]

Most grey area med providers say they are doing it non profit, or compassionately. You see quite a bit of transparency with legal business that are non profit...

 

[Pangea]

...a big medical grower has to sell excess illegally to cover overhead and turn a profit on his investment of money and time...

No they do not have to, they could just cover their costs from selling it to the med community in a non profit manner, as in covering ones costs and wages. With regards to large growers especially. The largest grower I know of produces pounds for just under $150, unfortunately their middle man sells their ounces for just over that much...

 

[Hammerhead]

That's why shwag is so profitable. You dont need to know shit about growing good weed and still make a killing.. There allot of poorly grown cannabis around one wonders why even bother with Brick weed..


Sorry guys this is what I see in the us..

 

[TdotGonG]

Well I go to a dispensary in toronto and there are multiple dispensary's located in the toronto area. they are far over priced charging around 360 and ounce for top shelf medication, they had different selection at 5$,7$,10$,12$,15$g's all the way up but unless you get the 12$g or 15$g bud your getting not so good meds. although if u have a MMAR you can get the top shelf for 15$g bud for 8$ a g. but still it promotes going to black market to find a better price, some times im able to get BC import for 250 on ounce that out does the dispensary's top shelf. mind u they have to make ends meat for employee's and so forth. a lot of say there non for profit, but ha bullshit profit is motive come on, be sensible.

 

[Guest 150314]

selling to the medical community compassion clubs or dispensaries is illegal, you can provide for your patients and that is it according to mmar.

 

[Guest 150314]

Most grey area med providers say they are doing it non profit, or compassionately. You see quite a bit of transparency with legal business that are non profit...

I would disagree and say that most med providers were doing this before MMAR, just using it as a guise to make money with some legal protection.

If you want to feel warm and fuzzy inside I would just grow your own man, people like to say they are compassionate non profit blah blah blah doesn't mean much to me. You can still pay yourself whatever wage you want running a non profit biz

 

[Green Supreme]

At 150/lb. I bet he cannot even pay his rent, let alone the cover hydro at them prices, especially for large scale. Peace GS

 

[Guest 150314]

thats close to what it cost to trim a pound

 

[Pangea]

The dude selling pounds for $150 is prairie plant systems, and that was before they started to utilize the sun.

Treated like a regular medical herb, top quality cannabis should cost no more than $150 per pound to produce, all cost included,
with all equipment and start up costs payed off in less than a year. The largest operating cost being labor by far.
Sold for $15 per ounce a producer should still profit at least $250K per year, with a smaller size medical commercial operation.

If Health Canada allows commercial growers in a competitive environment we will see this happen, and it would be great.

 

[bigbag]

PPS's crap is only worth that much at best... it's golden brown shake thats well under 10% THC. it's not supposed to have a resale value 4 that reason

 

[growshopfrank]

The dude selling pounds for $150 is prarie plant systems, and that was before they started to utilize the sun.

Treated like a regular medical herb, top quality cannabis should cost no more than $150 per pound to produce, all cost included,
with all equipment and start up costs payed off in less than a year. The largest operating cost being labor by far.
Sold for $15 per ounce a producer should still profit at least $250K per year, with a smaller size medical commercial operation.

If Health Canada allows commercial growers in a competitive environment we will see this happen, and it would be great.

$150 a LB may be a mite low it costs me just under $400 per LB to grow my own meds and that is not counting labor and I get all the hydro gear at wholesale.
no doubt that if one of the pharma giants could produce it at $150 per they would retail it at $2k+ why? because they can

 

[fukndenny]

The dude selling pounds for $150 is prarie plant systems, and that was before they started to utilize the sun.

Treated like a regular medical herb, top quality cannabis should cost no more than $150 per pound to produce, all cost included,
with all equipment and start up costs payed off in less than a year. The largest operating cost being labor by far.
Sold for $15 per ounce a producer should still profit at least $250K per year, with a smaller size medical commercial operation.

If Health Canada allows commercial growers in a competitive environment we will see this happen, and it would be great.

Agree completely.

Costs me about $5/oz to grow my own.

 

[Pangea]

PPS ganja is crap because they have to provide it to HC in a specific manner. Pretty sure if they could dry and store it to common approved standards there would be little difference between their meds and the rest.

Only in a monopolistic or black market would a big pharma or big anyone be able to sell cannabis for $2k+

 

[growshopfrank]

Agree completely.

Costs me about $5/oz to grow my own.

$80 LB almost covers my space before commercial insurance (and try to get a lease with under 2 mill liability insurance) or utilities the $400 dollar figure includes everything from mileage to and from the spot and depredation on equipment as gear doesn't last forever as well as putting the room up for a realistic cost per LB all this counts nothing is free

 

[growshopfrank]

Only in a monopolistic or black market would a big pharma or big anyone be able to sell cannabis for $2k+

nice picture, by the way what does weed cost in the 'dam?

 

[Pangea]

Its a PPS pic.

"Coffee shop" prices are close to California "dispensary" prices.

$400 is not that bad, It would just mean less profit from having to compete with more efficient producers that retail for your total CoP.

I wonder how much more accepted and merged with society cannabis would become if made available readily for dollar or less per gram. That is what Health Canada would bring about with their controversial proposed changes. The incentive of very affordable high quality medical cannabis is enough incentive for the speculated hundreds of thousands of medical users to pay the small form signing fee from a doctor to get the prescription, that wouldn't need to be approved by HC, but would go straight to ones chosen producer.

 

[growshopfrank]

Its a PPS pic.

"Coffee shop" prices are close to California "dispensary" prices.

$400 is not that bad, It would just mean less profit from having to compete with more efficient producers that retail for your total CoP.

I wonder how much more accepted and merged with society cannabis would become if made available readily for dollar or less per gram. That is what Health Canada would bring about with their controversial proposed changes. The incentive of very affordable high quality medical cannabis is enough incentive for the speculated hundreds of thousands of medical users to pay the small form signing fee from a doctor to get the prescription, that wouldn't need to be approved by HC, but would go straight to ones chosen producer.

between HC's proposed changes and harpers mandatory sentences it appears that there will be a sort of monopoly in the medical cannabis market call me paranoid but I cant see that lowering the price

 

[Pangea]

I wouldn't call you paranoid, but maybe a tad pessimistic. Perhaps the Mernagh case will go through and we'll see complete legalization. Either way, more affordable medicine is only a positive for the movement and patients.