Occupy Wall Street: Not on major media but worth watching!

[greenmatter]

any of you computer savvy mofos know how to talk to a member who has been downgraded to guest? no walls, no pm's, no reps possible ....... can it still be done?


sorry anti not trying to derail this. she is kinda all over the road anyway, but i mean that in a good way

 

[OverEagerBeaver]

sorry no...

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Capitalism is a race to the bottom.

Lower & lower wages, attack any country on
Earth for their resources, murder any caring person
that says no to your rape of their land,

trash every square inch of Earth to make
a dollar............never pay a dime of tax on your profits

and corrupt any government that won't bend to your will.

Yah capitalism is such a success cause we have computers....
too funny.

Listen sonny.... if you're going to come in here and prove that you're a lap-dog... keep spouting this drivel you're getting from your clan.

First you need to understand the principles of capitalism and how they work... then you need to look at history and realize that this country isn't the "epitome" of capitalism... it's the "Epitome" of corrupt fascism. The corporations run this govt... not the people.

The food you eat and the propaganda you digest is designed to make you an emotionally charged individual that will swallow the crap you're spouting and spread it. Mission accomplished.

Wake up and smell the..... Aww fuck it. You're probably too programmed to ever snap out of it.

Love your ridiculous garbage about any comparisons between the indians and what you think will help this country. Truly delusional thinking.


Stay Safe!

 

[onegreenday]

these items can all be achieved with a socialist-type system.

I would not equate consumer goods with a successful

social system. More like a success of industrialization and we can see the cost of this to the Earth.

the crimes committed for capitalism are 'beyond the pale'

and we have millenium to prove their destructiveness to humanity.

Tens of millions of natives in the Americas alone, in the thirst for accumulation of land, property & wealth, at the expense of our fellow humans.....

Well
Computers,modern medicine,higher life expectancy,ect....

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

People that think the market is the solution for everything are the ones asleep at the wheel. The market has great tendency to spawn fraud and nothing to mitigate it.

Without social policies, the top buys political opportunity and steals economic opportunity from the bottom.

I'd be careful who you chastise. Indians lived together for thousands of years and we've wrecked our ship multiple times in a couple of short centuries. Doesn't bode well for the new team.

We get it, the me-first mentality is alive and well. You can possess it, you can own it but you can't sell that stuff to anybody who doesn't already have the me-first way of thinking.

The trouble with me-first is everybody stops acting like adults and feeds their primal urge, i.e. greed. No better example than a $2 waffle iron riot at Walmart...

After the video went viral, sites all across the web began to offer their commentary. Gawker wrote that the video embodies everything that's "awesome" about America, including the "horrible economy, aggressive consumerism, mindless violence and a complete lack of concern for one's fellow human beings."
http://www.twitvid.com/QM7T7

 

[dagnabit]

Lmao
Natives "lived together" but far from peaceably or in the social utopia espoused.
Just look at the history of the poarch band of creeks I come from.
We raped the women and killed the men of every blackfoot we could find and the seminoles did the same to us.
Thank gawd we were stuck in the stone age cuz if we would have had fire sticks the genocide would have been complete.

Funny one poster says all those innovations "could" have come about in a socialist system but they were not.

 

[Dudesome]

Capitalism is a race to the bottom.

Lower & lower wages, attack any country on
Earth for their resources, murder any caring person
that says no to your rape of their land,

trash every square inch of Earth to make
a dollar............never pay a dime of tax on your profits

and corrupt any government that won't bend to your will.

Yah capitalism is such a success cause we have computers....
too funny.

people like u is what's making babylon spin

 

[onegreenday]

The 'innovations' you seek today can be had through a socialist system.

The natives had no need for our contraptions and were only corrupted by them

Your 'Indian' history is flawed.

You are thinking post-Columbian culture.......

Lmao
Natives "lived together" but far from peaceably or in the social utopia espoused.
Just look at the history of the poarch band of creeks I come from.
We raped the women and killed the men of every blackfoot we could find and the seminoles did the same to us.
Thank gawd we were stuck in the stone age cuz if we would have had fire sticks the genocide would have been complete.

Funny one poster says all those innovations "could" have come about in a socialist system but they were not.

 

[dagnabit]

Actually post Colombian my band became quite peaceful and are one of the very few still on ancestral lands in the southeast.
I think you have a public education view of natives.
Precolombian most tribes were very warlike.
The white man became a common enemy and ended many centuries old intertribal conflict

 

[redbudduckfoot]

give me a break.

anyone who thinks a system which makes it possible to place bets AGAINST a company's

success has been brainwashed. Capitalism is ruining the human race. when you enable

people to work the system and corrupt people who would not normally do ethically and

immoral things, there is no end to what evil will sprout.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Greedy peeps are as old as humanity itself.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Lmao
Natives "lived together" but far from peaceably or in the social utopia espoused.

nobody cares about your relative degree. you took the trouble to quote the actual words. insert your own arguments with the mirror.

 

[the gnome]

wow!
the ignorance to facts and history of the facts related to the arguememnt
presented in this this thread is amazing.

 

[KSP]

It's a train wreck. I stop by to see the carnage every now and then.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

wow!
the ignorance to facts and history of the facts related to the arguememnt
presented in this this thread is amazing.

LOL

And people call me crazy when I inform them the public education system is a crock.



Stay Safe! LOL

 

[juicepuddle]

It's a train wreck. I stop by to see the carnage every now and then.

LOL

And people call me crazy when I inform them the public education system is a crock.

Stay Safe! LOL

 

[bombadil.360]

simplistic yes inaccurate no, bigoted?


i guess prophet is a better term as "god" speaks through the prophet and the specific prophet determines what side your on, abraham for jews, jesus for christians, and mohammed for muslims sure " the "god" they all worship is based on the same "guy"


sorry i dont get ,my info from the "internet" i get it from reliable historical documents that are located in books and by watching the news...


go tell that to a muslim or a jew...


again prophet is a better word i guess

i have no desire for the responsibility of continuing a perpetual religious war...

you're entitled to your biggotry, which eludes you, a symptom of lack of introspection.

as you know, this is not the forum to discuss these issues; a good debate can help oneself reflect further into one's assumptions and help oneself reach new levels of clarity, but here is not the place, and I do not want to see this OWS thread closed if we were to try.

be good and hopefully one day you'll dare to look deeper and harder into the subject.

 

[Headbandf1]

A little Rebel Tunage for 2011

A little Rebel Tunage for 2011

Tom Morello - Save the Hammer for the Man

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[onegreenday]

Here's a growing "occupy'...movement

a million in Tahrir Sq Egypt......

Of course Amerikan military puppets are murdering protesters
with head-shot sniper fire from TALL buildings...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU2pOW3Yf3M


Egyptians have packed into Cairo's Tahrir Square, the centre-point for violent clashes which have killed more than forty people since Saturday. It comes as a former Prime Minister in the Mubarak regime agrees to form a new cabinet, after Egypt's ruling military council asked him to lead a national government. But as RT's Paula Slier reports, it's having little impact on public sentiment.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/11/2011112082333907688.html

A stalemate has settled over the Egyptian capital's Tahrir Square following a day of deadly clashes between security forces and protesters that has left at least 11 people dead, and hundreds injured.

The square, which has been the scene of street battles between riot police and activists demanding an end to Egypt's military leadership, was relatively calm on Sunday night after protesters regained control of the area and began calling for reinforcements.

Al Jazeera's security team in the Egyptian capital reported that sources in the city's morgue said they had received the bodies of 11 people killed when military and police forces made their assault on the square.

There were also clashes in other cities including Alexandria, Al Minya, Suez and Aswan.

Al Jazeera's Sherine Tadros, reporting from Cairo, said: "It is clear [the protesters] won't leave and they are very much trying to keep police from re-entering the square."

The demonstrators accuse the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces of seeking to retain power from behind the scenes as it oversees the transition, which could see the military remain in control until presidential elections which may not happen until late 2012 or early 2013.

"There is concern that the military government has hijacked their revolution and [the country] has swapped one regime for another regime, and they want an end to that," Tadros said.

The ruling military council expressed regret for the clashes but said it would stick to the power transfer and hold schedule parliamentary elections, voting for which starts on November 28.

Tadros estimated as many as 3,000 protesters had returned to the square just hours after being dispersed earlier in the day by riot police firing tear gas and rubber bullets.

Angry protesters brandished spent shotgun cartridges and bullet casings on Sunday, although police denied using live rounds.

Tadros said all police and security forces had retreated from the square to side streets in the surrounding area.

State television, quoting an official source in the interior ministry, said about 59 soldiers and 21 officers were injured during the clashes.

The European Union's foreign policy chief urged interim authorities to halt the violence against protesters and ensure a democratic transition following the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak in February.

Catherine Ashton said in a statement on Sunday that she was "extremely concerned" about the violent clashes over the weekend.

Protesters regroup

Despite the harsh crackdown, demonstrators were regrouping in the square as the night continued.

Many were seen clutching gas masks, apparently anticipating further clashes with security forces in the hours, or days, to come.


Meanwhile, witnesses said skirmishes continued to erupt in the alleyways and side streets of Tahrir under the dense fog of tear gas.

The lull in violence in the main square came after police armed with batons and shields charged into the frontlines of protesters who had been blockading the entrances to the square since Saturday.

Earlier, police had fired rubber bullets and forcibly cleared the area in an assault that sparked panic among the estimated 5,000 protesters.

A short time after the offensive, a surge of protesters returned to the square, overwhelming security forces and retaking the area.

Escalating violence

"This is what the Egyptian army calls protecting the revolution," Salma Said, a democracy activist, told Al Jazeera.

"We've lost so many people in the last nine months. We want [interim military leader] Field Marshall Tantawi gone.
We're going to keep fighting; we don’t have any other options."

Before the protesters regrouped in the plaza, military police torched tents in the middle of the square, and witnesses reported security forces burning protesters' motorcycles and other belongings.

Sunday's violence followed a day of clashes in central Cairo and other major cities, with thousands of rock-throwing protesters demanding that the ruling military announce a date to hand over power to an elected government.

At least two people were killed and hundreds wounded across the country on Saturday.

Tadros said: "People here are not thinking about elections, they are thinking about their revolution and how to finish it."

 

[dagnabit]

give me a break.

anyone who thinks a system which makes it possible to place bets AGAINST a company's

success has been brainwashed. Capitalism is ruining the human race. when you enable

people to work the system and corrupt people who would not normally do ethically and

immoral things, there is no end to what evil will sprout.

Another who thinks we have capitalism...
In a capitalist society companies would never have bet on cds type investments because they would suffer the repercussions of the failure.
But in a corporate socialist society like we have if they make the bet they get the payoff from the bet and rewarded with a 700b line of credit.

That not capitalism