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Growing cannabis on NORTHERN slope...tips and pointers

Yes4Prop215

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hey i have access to a nice garden but its on a northeast facing slope...gets sun early but its gone by 3-4pm, at least now during winter maybe she will get more in the summer....


any advice for growing outdoors on low light slopes....not ideal but im still gonna take a crack at her. im thinking that 200 gals arent the best way to go since they arent bathing in good light all day. my idea is to put a shitton of 15-30 gallon pots out, like hundreds of them SOG style like the guerilla growers do. i figure yield will be lower so i gotta use more plants.

also i have the cherry pie strain, and she does well in low light. my best cherry pie this year was one that was blocked off from light after 3-4pm. after talking with some other outdoor growers they say low light isnt a big problem as long as they get morning light instead of late evening light...

what do you guys think? i have another garden that will be regular flat slop with regular light...but im gonna do this other one because i really want to do a big SOG guerilla style grow, no 200s and big easily visible gardens from the air, this shit will be classic guerilla style even though its on my friends offroad property.
 

Yes4Prop215

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also forgot to add, after doing online research most people say that in a northern slope garden you want to use less nutrients and less waterings? is this true? definately dont want to over-water and have them sitting in darkness...

i am gonna run a few 200s just for shits and giggles, thinking about hooking up supplemental lighting on those. for the 30 gallon guerilla plants, gonna veg them indoors untill they are like 3 feet tall and throw them all outside in late july. this spot has perfect water delivery its got a nice well that sits a few hundred feet elevation up the slope from the SOG garden..
 
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wilbur

yes, do it. don't overthink at this stage. remember the sun is straight overhead for a long time in summer.

is there any way those plants can go in the ground? no matter the size of the pot, they'll dry out unless yr watering all the time ... which takes away from the secrecy of the place doesn't it, if you have to be there all the time ... ? mine use 10 litres of water each per day once they're grown a bit.

I put plastic sheet under my outdoor pots slightly dished so that they hold water. advantages are that any rain will fill them (don't make them too deep) and that you can dump a whole lot of water in the pot at once without worrying it will just drain away before the growing medium has time to soak it up. the plant will draw the excess back up from the saucer.

and termites! are there termites there? they will come out of the ground and into yr pots seeking out the moisture ... then they'll find that the roots of yr plants are yummy! result? goodbye plants! if termites ask me how to stop them.

dog shit keeps leaf munchers at bay. scatter dog shit around yr pots. but if yr doing heaps yr gonna need heaps of dog shit cos it only lasts a few days before the smell is gone.

anyway, do it! the learning is in the doing!
 

Yes4Prop215

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hey good advice wilbur! i think i will put them into the ground...dig some trenches and holes, layer the bottom, and fill them up with some good soil. i can spread diatomaceous earth around the tops to kill any termites...

still would want to hear more about yeild and growth patterns on northern slopes compared to southern...obviously not going to see the same vigorous growth perhaps? are large yielders even possible or should i go with the guerilla SOG approach...
 
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guest8905

hey man

so you want to grow on a north facing side

its not too bad. IMO dep dep dep, dep the crap out of it and do some full season stuff but in 100 gallon smarties or yeah if you want to dig then in the ground. Use some gopher protection though (chicken wire triple layered with rock under the soil, your roots will grow through them enough and it will create good drainage).

I would shy away from large amounts of smalls. If your still in NE cal they will go after gardens with high numbers.

If you just do deps, or hire someone to help you do deps , its nice b/c you are pulling tarp at 7 anyway and even better is the fact you are not exposed to the heat of the sun after you cover the ladies.

just my 2 cents. oh and do 100%afghani or inidca dominant lines for your full season, look for stuff really DONE by mid sept. The mersh mr nice cut would do you well prob, and its not that bad for mersh lol
 

Yes4Prop215

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thx stickky, wish i could dep but the slope is kind of steep so its not really possible...im not too concerned with plant counts because this area has tons of really big easily visible gardens from the air (already did aerial flyby lol, hi neighbors!). on the northside of this slope its hard for planes to see it because of the altitude they would need to fly to get over the mountain, so most planes pass over the south side where all the big smartpot gardens are....also the field is on a 20acre [private property at the very edge, far away from the driveway and house and bordering national forest..if they want to chopper out and fuck with me so be it, my main garden is in mendocino...i really wanna do the SOG guerilla style after seeing some of the other guys on here pull it off, i think my yeilds will be better than doing a bunch of big 200s...

im thinkin the LA con and LVPK would be perfect for this....indica dom and done by mid-late september..
 
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guest8905

thx stickky, wish i could dep but the slope is kind of steep so its not really possible..

im thinkin the LA con ..

nice well yeah if you feel like pulling out a tillar or a bobcat, its fun to flatten some hillsides. A nice low height dep on rows of qp plants is fun and easy and shorter than 5 feet....but i hear what your saying for sure....

have fun in mendo "i smoke weed from mendo, where the trees grow taller..."

la con is always a good choice :)

keep it blazin bro
 

ChaosCatalunya

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IMO what matters is catching the early morning sun in autumn, nothing else. What you are trying to do is grow mature cannabis flowers, not large cannabis plants, so forget planting it for optimal summer sun, what you want to see is warm sun in the mornings drying the dew off the buds as they mature, that way what you harvest has the best chance of being mature, filled out and potent. A plant in the best summer spot that does not get good light in autumn is likely to be rotting and/or chopped early, so, for me, worthless, no matter if it was looking like a 10 pounder.
 
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wilbur

I agree with Chaos ... except the afternoon sun is hotter. but what will happen on the south side is that yr growing period will be shorter ... with resultant lowering of yield. but this difference will be 5 instead of six, 10 instead of 12, etc.
 
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Z-ro

I know a ton of people growing monsters on northern facing slopes, thing is its all about your angle on the sun, plant spacing, and what obstructions you might have like trees and other mountain ridges etc. I agree that depping is your best bet over all though...even if the slope is steep, if you were planning on putting smartpots there its possible you could terrace it and put up some narrow but long hoops. You have options, and to me it doesnt sound like you have thought it through very well. Do you really want to water and maintain hundreds of small plants? Are you gonna do drip lines and trench em all so that they are not visible from the air? How are you gonna feel with all those plants when the chopper does fly over, are you gonna get paranoid and cut em early? Your yeilds are gonna be more determined by how well you grow the plants and what kind of start they have. I read your other thread and to me it didnt look like you made any real use of the large smart pots and could have easily gotten the same yeild with a much smaller container. You can talk all day about what you could do with the space, but what really makes sense in the grand scheme? I know if it was me, I wouldnt even consider putting out hundreds near the border of a national forest, private property or not... can you say US Forest Service...
 

Yes4Prop215

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yea we definately didnt maximize last years 200s for sure with our measly yields of 2.5 per pot...well aware of that. combination of late starts and not enough nutes and water...

i dont have the tools available to terrace, and it would make the field even more visible from the air. the National Forest is seperated by a paved road, its all dense forested private property north of this road, not to mention a steep hike about 500 yards up, then it tapers out the next 500 yards and i want to put the plants in this area. also, this ridge is pretty hard to see from the air, is took us 3 passes to even spot the field in our airplane, the angle to the lake is kind of dangerous, most planes fly over the south and theres plenty of gardens to mess with over there. a chopper probably wouldnt have a problem.

not sure what my goals in the grand scheme with this plot are. i already have my main garden in mendo being tended by experienced hands so i have some free time to play around with this one...i have seen pictures of some cool fields of pot done guerilla style and i envision it on this slope, theres tons of vegatation in the clearing i feel i can make it look pretty natural. and it will be outside our fenceline but still within the property..plus with perfect water delivery that can be gravity fed down the slope it seems like a good idea..i also have a nice big 25x15 garage for veg starts, so i can veg them out nice and big indoors...the property itself is pretty private and hard to spot, especially with all the much bigger gardens on the south side of the mountain and beyond...we are basically at the 3000 ft elevation mark of a north facing 4000ft mountain ridge above a large lake, the south side of the ridge tapers out for miles and is filled with dozens of very large, fenced, easily visible outdoor gardens....in one area i saw 4 gardens all side by side with 50 large trees in each one so 200 total.

il take some pics of the slope next time i get a chance....
 

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