magic flight vap= piece of shit

[memphis man]

zymos did the woody taste ever go away or did you learn a new way of hitting it? when i heat it up and get the woody taste it seems to have a really bad effect on my lungs and makes me cough to the point of almost puking. i get high as fuck but it just seems like something isnt quite right.

 

[memphis man]

I'm telling you get a 4pk of powerex 2700s for like $15 it will work way better, will actually give good hits. the stock batts are weak az. use a coffee grinder for your weed/hash. it definitely takes some experimenting to figure it out, it can be pretty good

i will try a pack of these before i give completely up. will only rechargeable batteries work in this or will the regular ole AA battery work as well? i guess what i am asking is do i get standard size AA rechargeable 2700 series batteries or is there a specific size i need?

 

[Herborizer]

I dont even grind my weed with the Arizer Solo. Here is my technique:

Turn it on.
Put weed in the bowl.
Wait for the indicator light to say it has reached temperature.
Inhale with ANY technique. Fast, slow, constant, whatever.
Blow clouds all day.

 

[memphis man]

I dont even grind my weed with the Arizer Solo. Here is my technique:

Turn it on.
Put weed in the bowl.
Wait for the indicator light to say it has reached temperature.
Inhale with ANY technique. Fast, slow, constant, whatever.
Blow clouds all day.

if i cant get this pos to work with the new batteries that have been suggested then i shall get one of those to try

 

[Don Dump]

if the woody taste is so bad its making you gag. that might be a problem. I am sure magic flight will replace it. maybe try burning a couple batteries through it empty, see if it improves

yeah they are normal AA size batts. the powerex 2700s are just good quality high power ones. I bought mine on ebay, but they are same as this, I couldn't find them locally http://www.amazon.com/Powerex-2700mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries-holder/dp/B0009H5VVM

 

[GP73LPC]

i think i got some 2900 mAh batteries on ebay...

 

[Truthman]

The Magic Flight may be cheap but it is the ONLY vaporizer that will allow you to take MOST of the cannabinoids in ONE HIT at a fast rate. The secret is not putting in too much so hot air can flow through it at an even rate and to make sure your batteries are freshly charged.

1-Grind you're herb very fine and only use enough to cover the screen.

2-Insert the battery for 5 seconds and take a REALLY SLOW inhale for one second, stop but keeping the battery inserted, and repeat again after one second of nit inhaling. DO this for 7-10 times.

3-Flip the box so the herb can stir OR take out the herb and grind it with your hands to break the herb down even more and again distribute it evenly on the screen.

Remember the longer you hold the battery in the hotter the box gets and the harder your drawer the lower the temperature get's. Check out this chart from magic flight:

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=909&p=3

"This first graph shows how quickly the Launch Box heats up and cools off. In this test, power is applied to a fully cold box for exactly 5 seconds under no draw conditions. You can see how quickly the unit rises to the required temperature. These measurements, typical to our units, is the physical basis of our claim "From cold to 385F in under 5 seconds!".

This second test is similar to the above, except that the battery was applied for 10 seconds. In this test (and also above) you can also how fast the unit cools off when the battery is removed. This characteristic is one of the reasons that the Box is so efficient when in actual usage. Vapor is truly only produced when the battery is applied. Within seconds of battery removal, vapor production halts completely, ensuring that none is being wasted when there is no drawing going on. Ours is the ONLY vaporizer in the world that can do this!

This next test demonstrates the effect on temperature of a "normal" draw -- ie that which is obtained from a person who is encountering the Box for the very first time and which has not otherwise been trained or instructed. People usually draw too fast when they are using the Box for the very first time, thus resulting in a cool off below the range generally useful for vaporization. As such, we encourage people to try drawing "very slow", and "slower than you might expect" when using the Box for the very first time. These directions, and better, an in-person demonstration of the correct draw rate goes a long way to improving the chances that someone will get effects when first "testing" the Box. Without this guidance (ie for those people who insist on trying the Box without reading the directions), there is a much greater chance that they will not feel the Box as "effective".

This graph shows the effect of a correct, steady calibrated draw rate. Using a vacuum system with a rate of flow control valve, etc, we test the unit by applying energy for 5 seconds, simulate a draw for 10 seconds, and then no_draw for 5 seconds more before removing the battery. This test simulates the normal usage conditions of a person who hit the Box with a little bit more experience than the novice user above. As you can see from the graph, a steady draw rate can easily set the temperature to a specific range. This feature allows users to "tune" their experience with the Box by trying various draw rates.

This next graph shows the full range of variability that the draw rate can have on the temperature of the Box. This test demonstrates the effect on temperature that a full hard draw can have. Since the draw rate can effectively vary from zero (which would look like the no-draw graphs above), to the maximum airflow that a normal person can pull through a Box, this graph shows the range of accessible temperatures. As you can see, pulling air through the Box too fast, as some Bong users are prone to do, can make the vaporization process stop completely. When people say the Box "does not work for them" or that the "effect is different" than they want, it is usually due to some factor like this one.

This final graph shows the result of one of the more sophisticated "optimal" hitting techniques. The procedure of "micro-hitting" is to take multiple short very light pulls of air every second or so. This allows the temperature within the Box to fully cross all points within the optimum range, ensuring a release of *all* of the different types of active ingredients in a set of proportions similar to their actual rates and proportions of occurrence within the load. Insofar as different volatile components are released at different temperatures, the unique capability of the Box to nearly instantaneously adjust its level of heat provides a release of these components in their natural proportions.

Vaporizers which are set to only one temperature at a time cannot help but volatilize the lighter components first and quickly, while leaving behind other, higher temperature components. Such units cannot help but produce too much of the lighter parts and not enough of the richer ones in relative proportion to one another. Unlike these other vaporizers which can only change their temperature slowly, or only via purely mechanical means, the full spectrum of effects is available with the Box in their natural proportions. Again, the Box is the ONLY vaporizer on the market that can come anywhere near to being able to do this.

 

[Sour Deez]

i bought the vap from a local smoke shop in a non med state do you thibk i could return it to the company itself or am i pretty much fucked?

Contact Blissville, they have great customer service. I had my last box replaced even tho i broke it, and i told them that, they will work with you no doubt. Im in a non-med state also.

Also im telling you it sounds like you are letting the box get to warm, the ONLY time i got that woody taste is when i let the box warm up to much and the herb started vaping very unevenly.

If thats the case, more powerful battery will only make it worse since it wil take even less time to heat up.

 

[Herborizer]

The Magic Flight may be cheap but it is the ONLY vaporizer that will allow you to take MOST of the cannabinoids in ONE HIT at a fast rate.

Bullshit. These things are popular because they cost $99 and you can fit them in your palm.

People on this website are more connoisseurs and usually have more quantity and quality than the average Joe. MFLB is not a good choice in my opinion.

Personally, the borderline religious following of these things is annoying. I don't know how else to put it. Sorry, not trying to offend anyone.

 

[Herborizer]

Try this with the MFLB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7ZMvifwLXU

 

[Truthman]

Bullshit. These things are popular because they cost $99 and you can fit them in your palm.

People on this website are more connoisseurs and usually have more quantity and quality than the average Joe. MFLB is not a good choice in my opinion.

Personally, the borderline religious following of these things is annoying. I don't know how else to put it. Sorry, not trying to offend anyone.

Can you tell me how my statement is bullshit?.

MFLB is THE ONLY vaporizer that can heat up almost instantaneously and not to a specific temperature allowing for extracton of all the cannabinoids in one hit if you get a good technique. NO other vaporizer does this and I love the Aromed but I still won't lie and give it credit where it's not due. With the power adapter you can get a potent extraction even easier just by turning the dial as you inhale. Again no other vaporizer does this because they don't heat up fast enough. Other vaporizers have their pros but heating up this fast isn't one of them.

 

[Truthman]

Try this with the MFLB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7ZMvifwLXU

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ui7pBU9U8s&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

These are just using the battery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmMkZ__k8HQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ll9Z93UPAk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0D1bvGsCQ&feature=related

BTW, just because you see big clouds doesn't mean it's potent. WIth the right technique on the mflb the clouds can be the same as the arizer solo but the mflb will be way more potent because it will consist of the lower essential oils that haven't been burned, the mid to high range cannabinoids such as cbn, cbd, thc, and some of the higher ends that we know of like beta-carophyllene. The arizer solo takes time to heat up which if you wait will make your vapor mix in with more air in the bong and be less potent due to the lungs being able to take in but so much at one time.

The only downside to the mflb is you have to take slow, soft inhales to keep the temperature stable and you don't know exactly what your vaporizing temperature is but for a quick, potent hitter no other vaporizer compares.

 

[Sour Deez]

Different strokes for different folks.

I love my MFLB for on the go. I got my SSV at home, def a heavy hitter compared to the LB. I bought mine years ago when it was only $80, now its $120 i believe. And at the time the other choice i had was a $300 iolite.

I can be sitting next to someone and hit the LB discretely and they would never know. Ive done it before, i even used this thing in a movie theater!

I think its the best option for portability and discreetness. Nearly maintenance free and a lifetime warranty.

 

[Hammerhead]

I love the Omicron but its for oils ...

 

[VerdantGreen]

ive got a mflb and think its great. more of an electric pipe than a vape but for an instant, discreet little hit you cant beat it. love the whole low-tech vibe on it.

 

[memphis man]

i ordered some 2900 batteries off ebay today and shall try again when they get in. the closet i found here locally were 2500

 

[GP73LPC]

you can also get the power adapter that plugs into the wall, that's what i am getting next...

 

[memphis man]

if these new batteries dont make it work right then im flingin this fucker in the pond and gonna get a different brand

 

[Truthman]

i ordered some 2900 batteries off ebay today and shall try again when they get in. the closet i found here locally were 2500

I think you got tricked because as far as I know the highest you can get is 2700mahs and powerex version are the best recommended along with their c-9000 recharger. They may say they are 2900mah but are actualy lower. Magic flight talks about this on their wikipedia page.

http://www.vaporpedia.com/wiki/Magi...ist.2C_wouldn.27t_these_be_good_for_the_LB.3F

"I see 3000/3200/3600/4000/4600mAh batteries for sale on eBay/Amazon/craigslist, wouldn't these be good for the LB?

The limits of the NiMH chemistry and the AA form factor mean that batteries of capacity greater than 2700 mAh are probably fakes. To make a battery of even 3000 mAh involves compromises that sharply limit both how long the battery can hold its power and how many recharge cycles it can survive, while introducing complexities into the charging process.

Batteries labeled as Sony 4600 mAh have been showing up on eBay and other websites. Magic-Flight obtained a set of them for test purposes, and determined that their actual capacity was only 190 mAh! Needless to say, Sony does not manufacture these batteries. "



You should still get good results with the stock batteries. I doubt it's anything wrong with the unit itself but something you're doing wrong. Look at my previous post and try what I wrote it should help you.

Is there a chance you can post some pictures of your mflb with a loaded bowl so I can see if maybe there is a problem there?.

You should also email the company to make sure you have a legit one because there have been fakes being sold as well as used ones. Magic flight could confirm it for you and help you out.