Voidlings plan for stealth grow

[Voidling]

I know I've got some definite heat damge. If you can pick out anything not heat related I'll take care of it. With the new fan the cab temp is 7 over ambient room temp. Problem is that ambient temp is at 80 degrees already. It's 70ish outside and window is open. Oh and all 4 bulbs are back in.

Growing in coco with general organics line.

 

[rives]

Well, that sounds a lot better. I don't find anything wrong with mid-80's - I believe it was Old Mac that had done a lot of testing and was of the opinion that 85-86 was where we really want the plants to be. I've always thought that it was a little strange that the "ideal" temperatures for indoor were so much lower than the outside ambient in the areas that grow a lot of pot very successfully. If you check out Irishboy's grows (Google), he has been growing in the Central Valley the last couple of years, indoor, with no AC and temperatures well over 100. He uses LED's and is of the opinion that what screws with the plants is not the ambient heat but rather the intense IR from HID lighting.

 

[Voidling]

Thanks. It's not been over 95 since I put the thermometer in there. The leaves on some are crispy to crunchy and others have twisted. I assumed heat as they're like a week and half to two weeks old. I'm only running the 4 cfl lights. Could they put out too much ir? I know they sure hurt my eyes. I have lowered the plants since.

I don't think I can handle the heat load of a mother and flower cab. And since they're bagseed there's probably nothing special.

Thinking of pulling my intake air from outside. Probably have to get an intake fan for pushing through ducting, what do you think?

 

[rives]

Inlet fans have to be pretty carefully matched so that you don't start pressurizing the cab and blowing smell out. You would probably want a pretty good filter on the inlet side to keep critters out - they make a lot of hepa filters for that application, but I've never used one. That plant in the lower left corner of the upper picture looks more like it's been overfed to me rather than heat damage - are you keeping the mix pretty weak for the seedlings?

 

[Voidling]

The first week was very week. 1ml of bioroot, 1ml bioweed in a gallon I think.

It might of been overwatered. I found out that a couple of cups didn't have drainholes.

I was thinking maybe like a third the cfm on intake to out take. It'll make up for resistance to pulling through ducting and less likely to pull from around the door.

Growth seems so slow. I had planned to do 12/12 from about 1 week but want to try getting these to recover before trying to get them to flower.

 

[Voidling]

I cut open my intake some more, ended up being messy cutting unfortunately. I highly recommend. Cutting them out before putting the cab together.

Also redoing the front of the cab to have seperate doors for each cab and hopefully fix the light leak.

 

[rives]

I hate trying to modify something like that after you've taken pains to do a clean job, it usually doesn't hit the same level of workmanship. I like using hole saws for that kind of thing, and there is no way to use a larger hole saw after the pilot area has been cut away. Is there any way that you can use a bolt-on plate type of adapter so that you could easily change your inlet diameter?

 

[Voidling]

Yeah, my craftsmanship is quite lowgrade right now. Middle of working on it at 330am. Want to get it done so I can put it on and go to bed. As it is right now I have bright cfl's shining on my bed.

I originally used a hole saw, then groupings of hole saw cuts. This time I just brought in a dremel with a router adaptor and cut out some more

 

[Voidling]

Well the plants got a couple hours of darkness for the first time, not sure how that will effect them. Didn't get the doors done last night. Was ready for bed at 4 am and flipped the lights.

 

[Voidling]

I measured and remeasured and measured some more and yet my doors don't fit.they are also not near lightproof as I had hoped. I'm beginning to wonder how anyone manages to lightproof a cab. Will post pics shortly.

I also need to figure out light trap for air inlet

 

[rives]

Regarding the light trap, the easiest thing that I have found is dryer ducting with some flat black paint applied to the inside. I also noticed that Home Depot had some pretty good-sized flex hose that looked like it had possibilites, if I remember correctly it was for RV sewer connections.

 

[Voidling]

Plants
Yellowing leaf tips

You can see my air intake isn't round so tubing doesn't work
I'm going to open it up even more. I'm afraid that the light trap I have in mind is going to be effectively lowering the intake dimension.

 

[Voidling]

The new doors. With paint it blocks almost all light out. Just a little more tweaking.

 

[Voidling]

Watered with plain water and looks like I just made it worse.

Think I'll order new coco and use maxibloom next time with new seeds. If I can get that to work I'll try organic again. Hoping the two doing well continue.

The one in the small cup still has no visible roots. I think I repoted to early. Due to thin stalks

 

[pinecone]

If I can get that to work I'll try organic again.

I don't know anything about the GH line that you are using, but I'm pretty skeptical about using insoluble organics in straight coco. Without insoluble organics you need bacteria and on paper coco is not a good host for bacteria. My guess is that you need to add some (20% by volume) compost or worm castings to get true organics and coco to work well.

My mix is coco based with 20% worm castings and I have no trouble growing with dry organic amendments (guano, kelp, alfalfa) and no bottles. This works great for me, but I don't think it would work without the castings.

Pine

 

[Voidling]

Thanks for that. I didn't research before buying and even at that it was new at the time. I still haven't seen many running it but a few say it works in coco, but I'm not having luck.

I need to get some worm bins going but I don't use enough veggies and fruits to feed them. I can get plenty of cow manure though.

I'm thinking my intake isn't big enough, I need to do the math. In which case I need to figure out a d8fferent baffle than the one I already started.

 

[Voidling]

So I've pretty much given up on all but the two. The small cup is growing up but still no visible roots. Left all the plants in there but put a 12-12 timer on these evening. .

Will look for more bagseed and maxibloom and give it another go

 

[Voidling]

 

[Voidling]

I'm having trouble figuring out how to add a carbon scrubber on my 120mm fan how it's currently setup.

The heat rose back up to mid 80's and now all my plants are drooping. One curled up like cats claw so I flushed it best I could and will add magnesium water when it dries out I think.

 

[Voidling]

2 weeks of 12/12 and no signs of sex yet. Wanting to put them back to veg since they're so small. Have had no stretch on some, seem like they're still in veg anyway.