I tried to figure this out for a friend and have had no luck, his mother plants in promix have been hit the hardest, with the ones in a rainforest doing better but we can't figure out the cause. All under a 400 mh, room temp low 70's to high 60's, tried flushing with ro water and seems like it had no help, all are fed lucas 5/10(ph5.8-6.0) as they have been forever. ph meter has been checked and calibrated , all were treated with a 1% solution of azamax to treat a small amount of flying bugs and spidermites. a couple times, his last clones to be put into flower also had an issue, buds were like ard peanuts and leaves pointed straight up, major nute reduction seemed to bring them back for a small harvest. here are the moms, any idea's?
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Mother plants- burn issue?
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Jaromir Jagr
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Maybe Root Aphids, get em off the pot and observe carefully the root zone for litel aphids
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I would love to help you but you are lacking a lot more information. There is a form in one of the sticky's that you can fill out and someone will get back to you. One thing that I would like to say is that Azamax destroys your pH and that's why I have stopped using it. Instead of using Azamax, use Neem Oil instead in the future for Spider Mites and Thrips. Good luck.
Jaromir Jagr
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https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159960&page=102
chek for Foomar pics, same as you
chek for Foomar pics, same as you
How long has this problem been going on? a month
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)no
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) soiless mix=4gallons , one rainforest 15gal rez
What STRAIN are you growing?soiless is dumpster, rainforest is a local deisiel/deathstar
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)clone
What is the age of your plants?6 months
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)same
How tall are the plants?2-3 feet
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?veg
What Technique are you using? bush
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)hydroton and promix on the ones that are real bad
What is the Water temperature?70
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? white with some above water having a few slimy black spots looks like some leafs that got into the rez
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)gh per lucas
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*5 micro 10ml bloom per gallon
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) nutes once a week at most with plain ro water when they dry out between
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless) once a week, stopped and flushed 2 weeks ago when problem got bad
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)micro then bloom
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
What is the pH of the "Tank"?5.9
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?each wter change and adding
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment?yes at 4.0 and 7.0
When was your last watering?2 days ago
What is your water temps?65-72
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)2 weeks on the rainforest and promix
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?rainforest when I add 15 gallon of ro water back to it maybe sooner
What size bulb are you using?400mh
How old is the bulbs you are using?less than a year
What is the distance to the canopy?12 inches to 18 inches
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?50
What is the canopy temperature?71
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)65-72
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)vortex 747cfm blowing across back wall from another room plants move slightly
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?closed room
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?no
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? ro ppm about 25
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched took clones 4-6 weeks ago
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? azamax at 1% solution
Are plant's infected with pest's some flying bugs have been seen, was the reason for the azamax, still very few left
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)no
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) soiless mix=4gallons , one rainforest 15gal rez
What STRAIN are you growing?soiless is dumpster, rainforest is a local deisiel/deathstar
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)clone
What is the age of your plants?6 months
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)same
How tall are the plants?2-3 feet
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?veg
What Technique are you using? bush
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)hydroton and promix on the ones that are real bad
What is the Water temperature?70
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? white with some above water having a few slimy black spots looks like some leafs that got into the rez
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)gh per lucas
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*5 micro 10ml bloom per gallon
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) nutes once a week at most with plain ro water when they dry out between
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless) once a week, stopped and flushed 2 weeks ago when problem got bad
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)micro then bloom
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
What is the pH of the "Tank"?5.9
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?each wter change and adding
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment?yes at 4.0 and 7.0
When was your last watering?2 days ago
What is your water temps?65-72
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)2 weeks on the rainforest and promix
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?rainforest when I add 15 gallon of ro water back to it maybe sooner
What size bulb are you using?400mh
How old is the bulbs you are using?less than a year
What is the distance to the canopy?12 inches to 18 inches
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?50
What is the canopy temperature?71
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)65-72
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)vortex 747cfm blowing across back wall from another room plants move slightly
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?closed room
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?no
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? ro ppm about 25
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched took clones 4-6 weeks ago
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? azamax at 1% solution
Are plant's infected with pest's some flying bugs have been seen, was the reason for the azamax, still very few left
Well update, the worst plants are turning around I think after spraying with azamax and a soil soak with Bayer complete, the better looking ones in that pic are dead, treated with neem oil and put some in the rez before he got the bayer, he's done that many times before with no problem until now. think it was 1 oz with some coco wetting agent mixed in some warm water added in a few plants and the last in the rez.
Good find k+
0-5-10 isn't veg. It's for low-light flowering like T8 and T12 lamps.
You have a 400w HID lamp... bump up to 0-8-16 and your plants will thank you. The formula is also only specific for flowering, though you CAN use it through all plant cycles. Lucas wasn't a die-hard about using 0-8-16 in veg and even played around with different formulas himself.
Personally I like to add a bit of nitrogen, after the 0-8-16 is mixed up. Just a tiny bit... makes a difference for sure.
Stay Safe!
You have a 400w HID lamp... bump up to 0-8-16 and your plants will thank you. The formula is also only specific for flowering, though you CAN use it through all plant cycles. Lucas wasn't a die-hard about using 0-8-16 in veg and even played around with different formulas himself.
Personally I like to add a bit of nitrogen, after the 0-8-16 is mixed up. Just a tiny bit... makes a difference for sure.
Stay Safe!
