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wilbur

Now I might be a bit off the mark with my understanding of web protocols and if I am I 'd like to hear from you, but …


I registered at an internet site the other day and registration required stating the closest town which for me is 70K's away. As membership at the site is not wholly socially approved I gave a town about 120K's away as my address. However when I looked at my membership details I saw my address had been corrected and stated my closest town. So I take this to mean that there are programs available which can pin down your computer's whereabouts with an accuracy of at least 50K's (+30 miles).


The site referred to was a small site but with global membership. It's purpose is fairly innocuous. I assume the site runs the address-locating program to reduce hoaxing. But it occurs to me that AUTHORITY probably has address-locating programs even more sophisticated than small sites have.


This may not be a bother if you live in a big city but if you live in an area where there are few potential growers there may be a concern. It seems to me the accuracy of such address-locating programs means AUTHORITY, where I am at least, can through a simply obtained court order from a magistrate to your Server, watch a profile group of potential growers in an area then bust you without the need to embark on any complicated and lengthy, perhaps global, process of obtaining court orders that require the managers of sites like this to give up your specific details. And you might also post things like how much rain you had last week when rain only fell in a small area … or mention the colour of your soil which exists only in a small area … or stuff like that.


The good thing I take out of all this is vindication of my choice to NOT post images here of what I 'm growing. What's in a 'diary' often shows a crop worth busting. So if my fellow members can't see what I grow I don't care … because neither can anyone else!
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
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browser cache and/or isp ip block = general loco

this is what web analytic are all about who si doing what and where so they can funnel your traffic to revenue generating sources
 

eyes

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Dont feel bad, i got the same problem. i havent posted any pics,either. Has its downs,though. people dont know if you are keeping it real or your full of shit. personally it makes it harder for people to take ya seriously. but,im managing to build up my rep on responses in different forums. people can see from that im not all b.s. so,it may take me longer but at least i feel a wee bit more secure even if i dont get those rad party invites cause of my lack of snaps.oh,well,cant win em all.
 

stihgnobevoli

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they looked up your subnet based on your ip address and pinpointed your local hub, when it comes down to it at the end of the day you can never be 100% secure unless you steal wifi to post.

you're overthinking this wilbur, this isn't the movies and hackers don't use terminal and millions of keypresses to hack into things. you just need to use a proxy, any proxy as long as the last hop doesnt have your home address or local subnet. that is enough to deter most anyone looking for you. unless the federales get involved in which case nothing you have can protect you. they will just trace you back to the proxy then subpoena the proxy and your isp to turn over your info. like i said if you're that worried about it, just take your laptop somewhere and steal some wifi to upload your pictures.

unlike the movies they won't be able to just come to the local cafe and find you.
 

Yes4Prop215

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my tor proxy usually shows my IP is in germany or something...but nothing is totally secure. sometimes im paranoid the cops know my IC handle and password and can read through my PMs...

Also some cameraphones take a GPS coordinate when you take pictures...so if you post pics make sure that its disabled..

also my friend fixed some settings on my comp and now it never saves any passwords or search history...can cops still hack and retrieve that info?
 
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Dawn Patrol

Well this is some bullshit right here.....
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YourPrivateVPN

easy and relatively cheap - great service for the price.
 

unclefishstick

Fancy Janitor
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how secure am i? well,its been almost a month since i cried myself to sleep....wait,this is about something else!
 

d3cryption

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When it comes down to it... the best way is to use another wifi network.... ie internet cafe, wardriving, etc. if at home, it would be safe, to use a vpn, ssh tunneling , or tor... the both have their pros and cons.....also you still have to take other premeasures while using them... such as not visiting websites with malicious code, downloading back-doors and Trojans, uploading files without the exif removed... disabling cookies/JavaScript, not keeping a history.not storing saved password, being aware, of man in the middle attacks.., usb autorun with malicious code.... it 2011 and most people have wireless routers,,,, do not use wep.. use wpa2 , and do not use common password, use one with 15 or more characters (upper case, lower case, special characters, numbers. you know the drill) and you're probably a windows user, but no matter what OS you use keep it updated, to avoid vulnerabilities in old builds..... hope this help


d3cryption...
 

GP73LPC

Strain Collector/Seed Junkie/Landrace Accumulator/
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also my friend fixed some settings on my comp and now it never saves any passwords or search history...can cops still hack and retrieve that info?

if the cops are looking at your computer you have bigger problems...

just sayin... :tiphat:
 

stihgnobevoli

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if they have your computer and hard drives they can recover everything from 2 formats ago. thats 2 formats with filling the drive up and then formatting that and then filling it up again. everything from 1 format ago and some of the stuff from 2 formats ago. but yeah if they have your hard drives they can recover anything.

go download a program called active undelete should be able to get a trial version. run it on your hard drives and see what it can find. they will at the basicest of levels use a software like that. if they really really want the info they will take your hard drives apart and use more sophisticated hardware...but for them to do some shit like that your last name would have to be bin laden.
 
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Scrappy-doo

If it was a realistic danger then people from this site would be getting busted and we would be hearing about it. I haven't seen one post from someone who got busted for what you're talking about. Just don't give personal details away and you'll be safe.

Edit- And please be smart and disable any cookies and delete all pictures from your hard drive. They belong on the site and nowhere else.
 

GP73LPC

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If it was a realistic danger then people from this site would be getting busted and we would be hearing about it. I haven't seen one post from someone who got busted for what you're talking about. Just don't give personal details away and you'll be safe.

Edit- And please be smart and disable any cookies and delete all pictures from your hard drive. They belong on the site and nowhere else.


i will say it again. in most cases, if the police are looking at your computer or hard drive, you are already fucked...
 
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Scrappy-doo

It's a smart move to have your computer 'clean' to the casual outside observer, regardless of whether or not leo gets a hold of it. God forbid your laptop gets lost or stolen, and you got pics of your grow op on there. Check mate.

IMO it's safe to post pics online. Just be safe and clean up afterwards. If you don't it's a risk and a foolish one.
 

GP73LPC

Strain Collector/Seed Junkie/Landrace Accumulator/
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my pc is 'clean' to the causal outside observer.

if you don't have the password, it's clean :D

really, like i said if the police get to my pc, they got to my grow....

laptop or smartphone is another story. if they are gonna leave the house, i would make sure they are clean...
 

thinkin

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After going to gizmodo and finding a cookie labeled GANJAUSERSETTINGS !

Upgraded my browsing security.
went with firefox browser, no cookies accepted.
Add-ons - the Better Security 1.67 to block the new super cookies. refreshing/deleting LSO every second they aren't updated.

Also stored/encrypted of all my pics with Truecrypt. very easy to use, with a long complex password very little chance of accessing pics.

likely start using TOR or one of these
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anonymous-surfing-service.htm
 
The geo ip thing can be accurate or can be way off. Usually the data comes from the physical address of the ISP who manages the allocated IP's. In laymans terms (which I am best at) the ISP goes to the governing body for their particular country and gets a block of IP's. On the paperwork for the IP's they write their address. It gets entered into a database, and the rest is elementary my dear Watson.

If the cops want to find YOU, they go to that ISP and request the logs to narrow it down to the user on their system that had that IP at that time. SO the whole geoip is pretty useless to a cop since they simply track down the ISP that was allocated that IP, and ask for the logs (user, physical address) pertaining to that IP.
 

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