A perfect cure every time
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Having re-read my comment, I didn't mean to imply that a 55 percentile is the end-all ruling on the subject. As with anything in nature, there can be a variance. When putting together the tutorial, I wanted to make sure that no one screwed up his harvest because of this, so I (slightly) erred on the safe side. If one wants to experiment, by all means.
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I'd like to know where these Numbers come from. Is there any real science to it or just some stoners messing around? I didn't put the top on my jar and leave them be until I was at 52-54% and the buds have still been curing nicely the past couple weeks.
These big thick greasy buds were way to moist to even consider putting the top on at 60-65%.
These big thick greasy buds were way to moist to even consider putting the top on at 60-65%.
as stated above, Simon erred on the side of caution. The important thing is that due to this thread you are measuring and noting.
here is my constructive criticism: if you want the best flavor and aromas, the product needs to breathe as it cures. This method only accounts for that when large jars are used and opened occasionally.
Smaller jars leads to less opening of the jars since you will probably only pick from one or two to sneak some bowls.
The best results I have gotten were from using slightly ajar jars with a humectant inside.
As I tried explaining in the tutorial, time is a factor. What hygrometer do you have and how it it being used?
In all truth, having been doing this for 8+ years with multitude of strains encompassing a variety of densities/etc, I have a very difficult time seeing how this can happen. If the steps in the tutorial were followed as directed, and if Caliber III was used to measure the humidity inside the jar, something is off scale.
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Finagleabud
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I'm getting so frustrated with trying to cure 
I'm not doubting simon's method here at all, I'm sure it works and I'm sure I'm screwing something up I just don't understand what it is.
I have a jar at 62% that's been stable for about 2 weeks now, I tried opening it and a big cloud of hay smell came out, and now the buds just kind of smell faintly like hay and that's it.
I'm not sure what I did wrong, I dried them at ~50% humidity and about 70 degrees F, with indirect airflow. Snipped buds off main stem, trimmed them very well (took basically every single visible leaf off, nothing but flowers left) and jarred them, burping until a stable 62% reading showed. Using a caliber III.
The weird part is, the buds DO smell quite strong and nice when you break them apart, but even that smell vanishes a few minutes later. There are lots of visible trichs. The consistency is about where I like it (its sticky when you break it up by hand). I just don't get why the smell is so faint when you simply pick up a bud and smell it (without breaking it up). Didn't have high temps in flower, and I let them mature fully (about 25% amber trichs).
The plant was the same way while it was flowering (if you smell the growing buds directly they have almost no odor, but if you agitate them a little bit a very strong, wonderful fruity musk fills the room for a minute or two. Smells exactly like when I buy a bag of good stuff. So I know the smell is IN there somewhere, but I don't see how curing it could possibly bring back that smell given how lousy it currently is. I know time is a factor but it's been 3 weeks now since I cut it down, and at 62% all I have is very faint hay\vegetable. No skunk at all, no fruit at all.
For the record I'm growing bag seed, which is obviously less than ideal, but like I said there IS a nice smell in there somewhere. Could somebody recommend a strain that smells good from the get-go? Or does this not exist? It's so frustrating to put in all this effort for months growing the plants and end up with grassy, bland hay.
I'm not doubting simon's method here at all, I'm sure it works and I'm sure I'm screwing something up I just don't understand what it is.I have a jar at 62% that's been stable for about 2 weeks now, I tried opening it and a big cloud of hay smell came out, and now the buds just kind of smell faintly like hay and that's it.
I'm not sure what I did wrong, I dried them at ~50% humidity and about 70 degrees F, with indirect airflow. Snipped buds off main stem, trimmed them very well (took basically every single visible leaf off, nothing but flowers left) and jarred them, burping until a stable 62% reading showed. Using a caliber III.
The weird part is, the buds DO smell quite strong and nice when you break them apart, but even that smell vanishes a few minutes later. There are lots of visible trichs. The consistency is about where I like it (its sticky when you break it up by hand). I just don't get why the smell is so faint when you simply pick up a bud and smell it (without breaking it up). Didn't have high temps in flower, and I let them mature fully (about 25% amber trichs).
The plant was the same way while it was flowering (if you smell the growing buds directly they have almost no odor, but if you agitate them a little bit a very strong, wonderful fruity musk fills the room for a minute or two. Smells exactly like when I buy a bag of good stuff. So I know the smell is IN there somewhere, but I don't see how curing it could possibly bring back that smell given how lousy it currently is. I know time is a factor but it's been 3 weeks now since I cut it down, and at 62% all I have is very faint hay\vegetable. No skunk at all, no fruit at all.
For the record I'm growing bag seed, which is obviously less than ideal, but like I said there IS a nice smell in there somewhere. Could somebody recommend a strain that smells good from the get-go? Or does this not exist? It's so frustrating to put in all this effort for months growing the plants and end up with grassy, bland hay.
i can't give you an expert's opinion, i've been doing small cures with this method for maybe 2 years or so
there seem to be some plants/strains that are doomed to be less than great, i see complaints of the hay odor scattered here and there
i've had great luck curing using the caliber, but my last outcome was bad
i doubt the method was at fault, it was just some foul genetic freak that came out strange
there seem to be some plants/strains that are doomed to be less than great, i see complaints of the hay odor scattered here and there
i've had great luck curing using the caliber, but my last outcome was bad
i doubt the method was at fault, it was just some foul genetic freak that came out strange
Finagleabud
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The buds were pretty airy so it only took about 4 days drying and a couple days of burping in a tupperware to get it to show 62% consistently. Right now its at 61 actually, just dipped by a % probably cause I've been opening it more than usual today.
i just stick my buds into a lil wooden cabinet (some cheap woodpulp with some woodlooking plates covering it)
some of the buds smell pretty great all the way, but some strains get that haysmell soon after drying, that haysmell takes about 2-3 months to dissapear and then they get sorta cannabis smelly (but vague)
soo.
im assuming its mostly genetics involved.
some of the buds smell pretty great all the way, but some strains get that haysmell soon after drying, that haysmell takes about 2-3 months to dissapear and then they get sorta cannabis smelly (but vague)
soo.
im assuming its mostly genetics involved.
explaining better, the cabinet works good enough to not want to bother with jars.
all the bud in the lil cabinet makes for a pretty slow dry, plus the humidity in there stays pretty constant after that.
for me it makes for a pretty perfect dry and cure, the buds become the way i want them, dont get crumbly at all, even after 3 monhts (never took it further) and the smell and smokability enhance steadily all the way (3 month smoke was pretty yummy)
and i basically do nothing but trim and stick them in there.
all the bud in the lil cabinet makes for a pretty slow dry, plus the humidity in there stays pretty constant after that.
for me it makes for a pretty perfect dry and cure, the buds become the way i want them, dont get crumbly at all, even after 3 monhts (never took it further
) and the smell and smokability enhance steadily all the way (3 month smoke was pretty yummy)and i basically do nothing but trim and stick them in there.
TIME. The hay smell is not a gas that leaves. It needs to be molecularly degraded (the plant material is degrading and as it does you smell hay). Wait 1-3 months.
Also, I take 2-3 months to get to 60%. That's me. The water has a function in the curing, so as others here have stated, it's preferable to go slow.
That seems blisteringly fast drying, 4 days. Must have been close to 62% when you put it in jars.
Also, I take 2-3 months to get to 60%. That's me. The water has a function in the curing, so as others here have stated, it's preferable to go slow.
That seems blisteringly fast drying, 4 days. Must have been close to 62% when you put it in jars.
Finagleabud
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@rrog: Yeah, it was, and I'm thinking maybe that's part of it. I jarred them at 62% instead of at, say, 70 and slowly lowering it. I'm definitely not giving up hope yet though since it hasn't even been a full month heh.
