White House Response to Legalize It Petition

[guest86120975]

America is still one of the best countries in the world...although it loves to piss people off both near and far. Rage on, bro, but you know it's true. The fact that we can and WILL get these laws changed is testament to that fact.

From this point forward, I'm going to recommend protests along the lines of Occupy. But, if I really see that come together, and stay together, I will shit a brick and eat it.

 

[CheifnBud2]

Same fucking argument could be made for alcohol and cigarettes.

They just don't wanna do anything that could cause obama to not get re-elected.

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

I posted this in the other thread almost a month ago, but figure it's worth repeating.

while internet petitions are nice, there is an ACTUAL BILL in committee now to decriminalize pot on a federal level HR 2306.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-2306

H.R. 2306: Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011

112th Congress: 2011-2012

To limit the application of Federal laws to the distribution and consumption of marihuana, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep. Barney Frank [D-MA4]

Status: This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Explanation: Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Sep 22, 2011 6:18AM]


in order to make it out of committee, we must contact these members---

Majority Members (Republican)
F. James (Jim) Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-WI) [Chairman] 202-225-5101 202-225-3190 http://sensenbrenner.house.gov/email_zip.htm
Louie Gohmert (R-TX) 202-225-3035 202-226-1230 http://gohmert.house.gov/Contact/
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) 202-225-5431 202-225-9681 http://goodlatte.house.gov/contact/index.shtml
Dan Lungren (R-CA) 202-225-5716 202-226-1298 https://lungren.house.gov//index.cfm?sectionid=84&sec …
J. Randy Forbes (R-VA) 202-225-6365 202-226-1170 http://randyforbes.house.gov/Contact/ZipAuth.htm
Ted Poe (R-TX) 202-225-6565 202-225-5547 http://poe.house.gov/contact/contactform.htm
Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) 202-225-7751 202-225-5629 https://chaffetz.house.gov/contact/email-me.shtml
Tim Griffin (R-AR) 202-225-2506 202-225-5903 https://griffin.house.gov/contact-me/email-me
Tom Marino (R-PA) 202-225-3731 202-225-9594 https://marino.house.gov/contact-me/email-me
Trey Gowdy (R-SC) 202-225-6030 202-226-1177 http://gowdy.house.gov/Contact/
Sandy Adams (R-FL) 202-225-2706 202-226-6299 http://adams.house.gov/Contact/
Ben Quayle (R-AZ) 202-225-3361 202-225-3462 https://quayle.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=58§i …


Minority Members (Democrats)
Member Name_ DC Phone -DC FAX- Contact Form
Bobby Scott (D-VA) [Ranking Member] 202-225-8351 202-225-8354 https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Steve Cohen (D-TN) 202-225-3265 202-225-5663 http://cohen.house.gov/index.php?option=com_email_for …
Hank Johnson (D-GA) 202-225-1605 202-226-0691 https://hankjohnsonforms.house.gov/contact-form.shtml
Pedro Pierluisi (D-PR) 202-225-2615 202-225-2154 http://pierluisi.house.gov/english/contact-us.html
Judy Chu (D-CA) 202-225-5464 202-225-5467 https://forms.house.gov/chu/contact-form.shtml
Ted Deutch (D-FL) 202-225-3001 202-225-5974 https://deutchforms.house.gov/Forms/WriteYourRep/defa …
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) 202-225-7931 202-226-2052 http://wassermanschultz.house.gov/contact/email-me.sh …
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816 202-225-3317 http://www.jacksonlee.house.gov/Contact/
Mike Quigley (D-IL)202-225-4061 202-225-5603 https://forms.house.gov/quigley/contact-form.shtml

These fine folks represent the House Commitee on the Judiciary:Subcommitee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. This is where the decriminalization bill Ron Paul and Barney Frank introduced earlier this year is currently in "discussion". This bill will stall here if we do not contact these people fervently.


If you want to help, this would do alot more thn an internet petition would.

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

and these people

Eleanor Norton [D-DC]
Earl Blumenauer [D-OR3]
Michael Capuano [D-MA8]
Steve Cohen [D-TN9]
John Conyers [D-MI14]
Sam Farr [D-CA17]

Raul Grijalva [D-AZ7]
Michael Honda [D-CA15]
Barbara Lee [D-CA9]
James McDermott [D-WA7]
Jerrold Nadler [D-NY8]
Ronald Paul [R-TX14]

Jared Polis [D-CO2]
Charles Rangel [D-NY15]
Dana Rohrabacher [R-CA46]
Fortney Stark [D-CA13]

are co-sponsors of the bill, and deserve our thanks and support.

 

[dagnabit]

this one as well:

H.R. 1983: States' Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act
To provide for the rescheduling of marijuana and for the medical use of marijuana in accordance with the laws of the various States.

A BILL


To provide for the rescheduling of marijuana and for the medical use of marijuana in accordance with the laws of the various States.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,


SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.


This Act may be cited as the ‘States’ Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act’.


SEC. 2. CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT.


(a) Schedule-


(1) Not later than 6 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in cooperation with the National Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Medicine, shall submit to the Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration a recommendation on the listing of marijuana within the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), and shall recommend a listing other than ‘Schedule I’ or ‘Schedule II’.


(2) Not later than 12 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration shall, based upon the recommendation of the National Academy of Sciences, issue a notice of proposed rulemaking for the rescheduling of marijuana within the CSA, which shall include a recommendation to list marijuana as other than a ‘Schedule I’ or ‘Schedule II’ substance.


(b) Limitations on the Application of the Controlled Substances Act-


(1) IN GENERAL- No provision of the Controlled Substances Act shall prohibit or otherwise restrict in a State in which the medical use of marijuana is legal under State law--


(A) the prescription or recommendation of marijuana for medical use by a medical professional or the certification by a medical professional that a patient has a condition for which marijuana may have therapeutic benefit;


(B) an individual from obtaining, manufacturing, possessing, or transporting within their State marijuana for medical purposes, provided the activities are authorized under State law; or


(C) a pharmacy or other entity authorized under local or State law to distribute medical marijuana to individuals authorized to possess medical marijuana under State law from obtaining, possessing or distributing marijuana to such individuals.


(2) PRODUCTION- No provision of the Controlled Substances Act shall prohibit or otherwise restrict an entity authorized by a State or local government, in a State in which the possession and use of marijuana for medical purposes is legal from producing, processing, or distributing marijuana for such purposes.


SEC. 3. FEDERAL FOOD, DRUG, AND COSMETIC ACT.


(a) In General- No provision of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act shall prohibit or otherwise restrict in a State in which the medical use of marijuana is legal under State law--


(1) the prescription or recommendation of marijuana for medical use by a medical professional or the certification by a medical professional that a patient has a condition for which marijuana may have therapeutic benefit;


(2) an individual from obtaining, manufacturing, possessing, or transporting within their State marijuana for medical purposes, provided the activities are authorized under State law; or


(3) a pharmacy or other entity authorized under local or State law to distribute medical marijuana to individuals authorized to possess medical marijuana under State law from obtaining, possessing, or distributing marijuana to such individuals.


(b) Production- No provision of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act shall prohibit or otherwise restrict an entity authorized by a State or local government, in a State in which the possession and use of marijuana for medical purposes is legal from producing, processing, or distributing marijuana for such purpose.


SEC. 4. RELATION OF ACT TO CERTAIN PROHIBITIONS RELATING TO SMOKING.


This Act does not affect any Federal, State, or local law regulating or prohibiting smoking in public.

 

[dagnabit]

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/112/hr2306/report#nation


following links on the bill's page leads to some interesting info and state by state breakdowns for support/opposition as well as endorsing organizations.

 

[xmobotx]

I especially like the FDA argument. It's always been one of my favorites. I can just see them snickering every time they discuss it. Of course the FDA hasn't approved cannabis. Duh! It's a schedule 1 controlled substance which, by definition, has no medical value and therefore cannot be approved by the FDA. It can only go through the research and clinical trials necessary for FDA approval if it is rescheduled. Which it can't be because it's not FDA approved.

typical circular reasoning too. anytime one sees these guys come out w/ their statement justifying the current laws its always the same; doublespeak, circular logic and outright lies

A: So is alcohol and tobacco

common rationale but apparently not working - let's also count all these OTC medz and scrips - who else is so sick of seeing commercials w/ 10 minutes of disclaimers @ the end because their "medz" are actually poisons/far worse than alcohol or tobacco - meanwhile, tobacco alone is bad for you but not near as bad as it is w/ all their additives,paper,& "filters"

Also, keep in mind that certain popular arguments amongst supporters have little to no basis in reality and/or persuasion, such as the ever popular "legalize and the economy will be fixed" one.

excellent point but i think most who promote these kinds of ideas are trying to appeal to the $$$$ hungry scumbags that suppress legalization

Does anybody know if the group response to several cannabis-related petitions included the one about industrial hemp? I know the government doesn't distinguish, but in terms of petitions, marijuana and hemp are two completely different issues.

oh but canna/industrial hemp ARE the same thing. in fact billionaire oil probably has the biggest interest in the prohibition because hemp can literally replace everything they get from oil whether it's fuel, building material, clothing, and even medicine

its probably safe to say that canna is mostly illegal because it gives the oil co a bigger monopoly

 

[PirateGodBuggy]

The answer is vote for ron paul right? lol..........

 

[SOTF420]

I plan to grow, breed, and smoke it regardless of what the fuck they say so fuck them and their bullshit. They can't stop ALL OF US from growing it. Hell if everyone in the country planted some in their front yards we could effectively stump the whole damn process are they going to put millions in jail all at the same time?

With all the legal attacks recently on even med users, legal growers, and dispensaries they are biting off alot more than they can chew because people will revolt and I am one of them.

The best way to overcome laws are to continually break them out in the open, like jay walking for instance. It's illegal but hey everyone does it I mean hell just the other day I walked down the street with a fat joint in my mouth so I will jay walk wherever the heck I want!

Vote Ron Paul 2012!

 

[m314]

I just signed a new petition today. This one asks the government to "actually take these petitions seriously instead of just using them as an excuse to pretend you are listening".

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/actually-take-these-petitions-seriously-instead-just-using-them-excuse-pretend-you-are-listening/grQ9mNkN

This one won't change anything either, but I like the intent behind it. This is the text of the petition:


Although the ability to submit petitions directly to the White House is a noble and welcome new feature of the current administration, the first round of responses makes blatantly clear the White House intends to just support its current stances and explain them with responses everyone who has done any research already knows.

An online petition is not meant as a replacement for using a search box in a web browser. We the People, those who grant you the power to govern in the first place, are requesting changes in policy directly, circumventing legislators who already do not listen to us. We the People request you govern FOR us, which means actually listening to us and actually acting in our interests instead of special interests.

You are not above us. You ARE us. Govern accordingly.

 

[m314]

50% of the country disagrees with Obama and the Assholes.

This is true, but unfortunately a majority of voters still wants to keep it illegal. If you look at the demographics of the latest Gallup poll, the younger age groups favor legalization while the older people are strongly against it. Young people don't vote as much as they should, but the elderly do tend to show up at the polls. Having 50% of the population on our side doesn't matter in the elections unless we actually go out and vote.

It's only a matter of time, though. Every day there are people who change their minds and switch to our side. I don't expect anything to change in the near future, but I'm optimistic that we'll see legalization in our lifetimes.

 

[Barn Owl]

I plan to grow, breed, and smoke it regardless of what the fuck they say so fuck them and their bullshit. They can't stop ALL OF US from growing it. Hell if everyone in the country planted some in their front yards we could effectively stump the whole damn process are they going to put millions in jail all at the same time?

With all the legal attacks recently on even med users, legal growers, and dispensaries they are biting off alot more than they can chew because people will revolt and I am one of them.

The best way to overcome laws are to continually break them out in the open, like jay walking for instance. It's illegal but hey everyone does it I mean hell just the other day I walked down the street with a fat joint in my mouth so I will jay walk wherever the heck I want!

Vote Ron Paul 2012!

Amen

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Gil doesn't understand one very important point.

They have no right whatsoever to make it illegal for us to consume or possess a natural growing herb. This is a civil rights issue.

The argument of "Its not safe for the public so we can't legalize it" is absolutely insane, just look at all the other prescription drugs and all other legal stuff thats "not safe for the public." Why isn't all that illegal?

Its our own personal responsibility to accept the natural consequences of whatever it is we choose to consume or do based upon the risks associated with it. Its not the governments job to protect us from those risks.

Exactly..... and this is what we should do with our current government.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

This is true, but unfortunately a majority of voters still wants to keep it illegal. If you look at the demographics of the latest Gallup poll, the younger age groups favor legalization while the older people are strongly against it. Young people don't vote as much as they should, but the elderly do tend to show up at the polls. Having 50% of the population on our side doesn't matter in the elections unless we actually go out and vote.

It's only a matter of time, though. Every day there are people who change their minds and switch to our side. I don't expect anything to change in the near future, but I'm optimistic that we'll see legalization in our lifetimes.

70 percent of Americans are for federal decriminalization for medical uses.

 

[m314]

70 percent of Americans are for federal decriminalization for medical uses.

50% support full legalization right now, and 70% or more (depending on the poll) support medical use. The numbers for our side go up every year, and I expect that to continue. When public opinion changes on issues like this, sometimes it takes time for politicians to catch up and actually do what the public wants. I do believe it will happen eventually. It's just frustrating to have to wait so long and see so many good people go to jail over this.

Another problem is the fact that lots of people on our side don't care enough to vote specifically on this issue. I have some friends who support legalization, but don't consider this to be a major issue. They'll vote on what's most important to them without caring too much about their candidate's position on legalization.

 

[VirginHarvester]

Hope he's a one term Pres though I doubt a Republican will do much better.

 

[Euphrates]

I admire peoples optimism here that things will at one point in time get better, sadly though I do not feel this way.

The injustice and hypocrisy in this country is so insane and scary. We are dealing with a organized evil that is on almost every level, democrat or republican, its all the same. Welcome to the age of dehumanization and deceit.

 

[mrcreosote]

That ol' Gil sure cracks me up...

He got a real purdy way of sayin'

"Fuck off and die."

 

[Preacher]

Exactly..... and this is what we should do with our current government.

[big image]

Let's not forget the corporations they're in bed with.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

He lost me here:


I don't know how that asshole could write that with a straight face.

Next election I'll be writing in "No One" again.

Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Boss.
(Actually Obama might be worse)

^^^ this graph is bullshit. anyone who looks at that and thinks obamas the worst on that list is ignorant to the real scenario...