A perfect cure every time

[rrog]

If you slowly bring the humidity down to say 60%, you can then pull a vacuum and store for a couple years or more. No more burping. It takes me about three months to get the humidity to 60%. So a lot of time with oxygen, which is needed to cure. You don't want to pull a vacuum too early, as a vacuum will largely stop curing process.

 

[Slimm]

If you slowly bring the humidity down to say 60%, you can then pull a vacuum and store for a couple years or more. No more burping. It takes me about three months to get the humidity to 60%. So a lot of time with oxygen, which is needed to cure. You don't want to pull a vacuum too early, as a vacuum will largely stop curing process.

I'm curious about this. What role does oxygen have in the curing process?

 

[rrog]

Slim, not totally sure of all the roles that O2 plays in a cure, but I believe it assists with chlorophyll breakdown. If the humidity drops below 55% o if a vacuum is pulled too early, you don't get good cure

 

[silver hawaiian]

Curring up nicely Been doing tit like this for a long time. I have not got any mold ever.

Awesome stuff HH! I use the Caliber's too, but not once I vacuum seal. I typically get the RH down to about 63-64%, then use a pump-n-seal to vacuum the jar, and then I vacuum seal the entire jar itself.

When you toss the Caliber in the bags and vacuum it (at 67% RH), I know you said you've never had mold - awesome! This may seem a bit silly, but does the RH ever drop once it's been vacuum packed? I suppose the question I'm getting at is, if it's sealed, what's the purpose of having the hygrometer in there? Just for reference? Or is there something I'm missing?

 

[rrog]

I also remove the Caliber once the humidity is where I want and I vacuum seal. No real need to monitor after that.

 

[mad librettist]

I also remove the Caliber once the humidity is where I want and I vacuum seal. No real need to monitor after that.

Man I would remove the caliber BEFORE vacuum sealing. That way you don't have to use alien technology to get the device through the glass using quantum restructuring fields.

 

[rrog]

... get the device through the glass using quantum restructuring fields.

I've already asked for a QRF generator for xmas.

 

[mad librettist]

lol

 

[Finagleabud]

Does anybody know approx how long most top shelf herb you find in dispensaries has been cured for before it goes up for sale?

I'm wondering because using this curing method, I want to know when to expect good smells to emerge. I have a bagseed harvest of a totally unknown genetic background, and I want to know at what point to expect either a good smell, or in the case of poor genetics, no\hay smell. The resin on the plants when flowering smelled quite good when agitated so I'm hoping that's a good sign for the cure.

Currently the flowers are in tupperware at 66% humidity, but it's still rising a point every few hours, so I'm getting close. Right now they have that distinct somewhat hay\somewhat pungent\weird vegetable kind of smell, which I'm guessing is chlorophyll.

 

[rrog]

That's a good question. I'd be curious also. The smell probably has an element of chlorophyll but certainly that smell / taste is reduced as part of the cure.

In a recent visit out of town I had a chance to taste some non-dispensary strains. Other than being poorly grown for street sale, they were minimally cured. Tasted very green. I would imagine dispensaries would require much higher quality. If I had to guess I would think at least two months, but I've never even seen a dispensary.

 

[greenops]

Well, the AK48s and the Skunk#1 that have been curing at 65% since early September still have no smell and I've given up hope that it will ever come back! At least I got something to blaze.
But remembering that the plants drastically lost their smell during the final stage BEFORE the harvest, something else might have screwed up the smell. Maybe high summer temps or an accidental nute overdose.

Then I had 2 more AK48s from the same batch, which I had to move to my balcony because of lack of space indoors. I gave them less nutes, and due to being outdoors, the temp was milder. Their buds smelled very nice up to the day i chopped them last week. (It might have been a little early but I had to due to the drop in temperature and a little bud rot).





The buds arent that dense so I just dried them for 2- 3 days. Til the outside felt dry. Up to that point they still had their smell, tho it was getting weaker.
Now I have them in the jars at 65 - 66 % RH and the good smell is gone, just like what happened in my first drying/curing attempt!
I feel the buds are quite dry... is it possible that for smaller buds such as these they have to be jarred at a higher humidity, like 70ish %?

I'll have serious doubts in my growing career if the smell wont come back this time lol. Id prefer good tasting buds than a ton of weed with no flavor.

Can anyone suggest some strains that are so flavorful that it will be hard to screw up? The kind where u can smell the dank out of the seed? lol

 

[rrog]

I find that the smell changes over the course of a year. I have some SSH and Skunk curing for three months now at 65%, now dropping to 60% over the next few weeks. Smells awesome at this time. I would give it time.

 

[SKAGITMAGIC]

I find my cinderella 99 is real hard to screw up the taste and smell, it's there right out of the gate and gets better,

 

[greenops]

Thanks for the tip Skagitmagic! Always been interested in the Cinderella99. Did u get it from the Gipsy Nirvana collection? And how easy is she to grow?

 

[Hammerhead]

It's used for safety sake.. I dont pull a full vac there is still air in the bag... If they RH goes up(witch it has) I would see that and open to let it dry more...It was sealed at 65%.. 67 is still fine...

 

[Avinash.miles]

Do these work in larger containers like 2 gallon jars or 5 gallon buckets, or large tupperwares, maybe putting multiple ones in a large tupperware.... does that sound ok? ordering calliber III....

 

[rrog]

Yes. Once the jar humidity stabilizes, it will be equal in all parts of the jar and the caliber will work and be accurate

 

[St3ve]

Yes definately. I have 5 of them now and when I'm not using them for curing, I have them around the room measuring the room. It works just as good (better?) as the ones I already have in there.

 

[rrog]

As a side note, I've been comparing different levels of drying when using a grinder in prep for vaping. My Opinion:

Not all vapes may benefit from a fine grind

63% and up is too high. The grind isn't fine enough for a finer powder. Also, the first few hits are compromised because you are doing a bit of drying the herb.

60% seems optimal for me. Still retains a cushy bud, but grinds fine and gives much better initial hits. And I'm all about those initial hits.

Lower than 60% is cool, but I don't want to (personally) get too close to 55% where curing is said to stop and not able to be re-started. So 60% seems like a good target for me.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

@rrog, i was about to post similar findings myself the other day. i have a feeling it depends on what the relative humidity for your area tends to be. right now, a caliber in my house says 69deg and 30% humidity. my buds at 55% are perfect. with my areas low humidity a find that >60% in the jar is too moist. at 55% my herb is still scrunchy.(thats actually a word?)(squeezes without breaking, will return to original shape without crumbling.)