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BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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You could be right, H3rB. I sure hope so anyway. I just wonder if non mmj states will opt for controlled distribution rather than the freedom to grow ourselves. I'm getting too far out on the limb so I'll crawl back a little.:)

Dude if people are allowed to brew their own beer - im pretty certain people will be allowed to grow their own weed.
 

MadBuddhaAbuser

Kush, Sour Diesel, Puday boys
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Even if RP were elected prez, he can't govern by decree. Executive order has a limit and consequences in some cases. Problem with executive order is that successor(s) could unilaterally reverse course.

Some say the AG has unilateral authority to legalize but that's the same deal. If they're correct, the next guy could do whatever he wants.

IMO, Ron Paul would have to lead Congress into reform or legalization. But Ron wants to wax the DEA entirely and make all drugs legal. If that were the only (what many consider) weird policy idea... he might have a snowball's chance in a pizza oven.

This is absolutely true, while it is good to sign this petition, there is nothing the sitting president can do about it.

HOWEVER, if you need ron paul to lead the way, he has already done so by introducing along with barney frank HR 2306
H.R. 2306: Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011

112th Congress: 2011-2012

To limit the application of Federal laws to the distribution and consumption of marihuana, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep. Barney Frank [D-MA4]

Status: This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Explanation: Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Sep 22, 2011 6:18AM]

If you want Real change the only answer is Ron Paul, not mediocrity.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I say to all of you, Shame on you.

Now if Ron Paul was doing this, even though he wouldn't need to be influenced to take action, this would be serious, but it's a joke, just like all of you thinking there's a difference between Obama and Bush, Democrats and Republicans, or hell the media telling you Ron Paul can't win. Bullshit, and I and others will prove him right. Go ahead and stay on the sidelines for this R3volution, ignorants need help too huh.


HUH?

it cant hurt to try an help,but if we do get millions of sig's
i dont think they could hide the issue any longer!!!!!

WE the PEOPLE have seen enough bullshit already to trust?
ONLY action will speak!!!.......hopefully.

It cant hurt to help, but if we want a REAL change in the nations MJ laws we should all be backing HR 2306 and getting in touch with these people---->
It's good that he has to face these questions from us, but the truth is he cant do anything about it.

He cannot just throw down an executive order to legalize marijuana.

the people would should be bombarding with questions everyday are these people-

Majority Members (Republican)
F. James (Jim) Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-WI) [Chairman] 202-225-5101 202-225-3190 http://sensenbrenner.house.gov/email_zip.htm
Louie Gohmert (R-TX) 202-225-3035 202-226-1230 http://gohmert.house.gov/Contact/
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) 202-225-5431 202-225-9681 http://goodlatte.house.gov/contact/index.shtml
Dan Lungren (R-CA) 202-225-5716 202-226-1298 https://lungren.house.gov//index.cfm?sectionid=84&sec
J. Randy Forbes (R-VA) 202-225-6365 202-226-1170 http://randyforbes.house.gov/Contact/ZipAuth.htm
Ted Poe (R-TX) 202-225-6565 202-225-5547 http://poe.house.gov/contact/contactform.htm
Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) 202-225-7751 202-225-5629 https://chaffetz.house.gov/contact/email-me.shtml
Tim Griffin (R-AR) 202-225-2506 202-225-5903 https://griffin.house.gov/contact-me/email-me
Tom Marino (R-PA) 202-225-3731 202-225-9594 https://marino.house.gov/contact-me/email-me
Trey Gowdy (R-SC) 202-225-6030 202-226-1177 http://gowdy.house.gov/Contact/
Sandy Adams (R-FL) 202-225-2706 202-226-6299 http://adams.house.gov/Contact/
Ben Quayle (R-AZ) 202-225-3361 202-225-3462 https://quayle.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=58§i


Minority Members (Democrats)

Member Name DC Phone DC FAX Contact Form
Bobby Scott (D-VA) [Ranking Member] 202-225-8351 202-225-8354 https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Steve Cohen (D-TN) 202-225-3265 202-225-5663 http://cohen.house.gov/index.php?option=com_email_for
Hank Johnson (D-GA) 202-225-1605 202-226-0691 https://hankjohnsonforms.house.gov/contact-form.shtml
Pedro Pierluisi (D-PR) 202-225-2615 202-225-2154 http://pierluisi.house.gov/english/contact-us.html
Judy Chu (D-CA) 202-225-5464 202-225-5467 https://forms.house.gov/chu/contact-form.shtml
Ted Deutch (D-FL) 202-225-3001 202-225-5974 https://deutchforms.house.gov/Forms/WriteYourRep/defa
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) 202-225-7931 202-226-2052 http://wassermanschultz.house.gov/contact/email-me.sh
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816 202-225-3317 http://www.jacksonlee.house.gov/Contact/
Mike Quigley (D-IL) 202-225-4061 202-225-5603 https://forms.house.gov/quigley/contact-form.shtml

These fine folks represent the House Commitee on the Judiciary:Subcommitee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. This is where the decriminalization bill Ron Paul and Barney Frank introduced earlier this year. This bill will stall here if we do not contact these people feverently. It still may, but its an actual chance. stop asking some guy if he would sign a bill that will never see his desk unless we contact these house members.



:wave: END MARIJUANA PROHIBITION!
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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It's not just waxing the DEA, it's lots of things that get into Constitutional interpretation. IMO, leadership is more than the first step. It's also the ability to get others to follow.

That said, RP is a leader in HR 2036 and I hope the bill gets through the process. Even if the bill made it to a floor vote and was rejected, subsequent attempts might not be stalled as easily, pre-committee(s).
 

crazybear

Member
Dude if people are allowed to brew their own beer - im pretty certain people will be allowed to grow their own weed.

Took a long time to be able to brew beer & make wine, I believe it was Carter!
I would sign a petition but I think they are trying to locate pro cannabis people & F**K us!!!
Hell what more proof does our country need about cannabis being safe medicine & safer than alcohol & the least additive ! WTF!:wave:
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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Took a long time to be able to brew beer & make wine, I believe it was Carter!
I would sign a petition but I think they are trying to locate pro cannabis people & F**K us!!!
Hell what more proof does our country need about cannabis being safe medicine & safer than alcohol & the least additive ! WTF!:wave:

yeah but theres no where near the market there was back then as there is now. you can bet your ass during alcohol prohibition they werent renting out convention centers to sell and teach people about brewing their own beer...
 

3dDream

Matter that Appreciates Matter
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During the prohibition of booze you could still make your own beer. They had it better.
 

Tony Aroma

Let's Go - Two Smokes!
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During the prohibition of booze you could still make your own beer. They had it better.

Yes, alcohol prohibition during the 1920s was what we would call decriminalization today. Only the manufacture, sale, transportation, and importation of alcohol was illegal. Possession and production for personal use were never against the law.
 

zenoonez

Active member
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Can I ask a dumb question?? Well I'm going to anyway ;).

What happens after Oct 22? I'm not up on politics and policies, so I'm just wondering what and where to look after the 22nd to see how this will be addressed?

TIA
 

Tony Aroma

Let's Go - Two Smokes!
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What happens after Oct 22? I'm not up on politics and policies, so I'm just wondering what and where to look after the 22nd to see how this will be addressed?

No need to bother. I have the power to see into the future. Here's how the president will respond:

First, he'll make light of the issue. Maybe make a joke about what this petition tells us about the people who frequent the web. Something like, "Poor, stupid stoners. Will they never learn?"

Then, if he has the time, he will explain how he has turned this question over to the appropriate experts, the DEA. After careful consideration, the DEA will have come to the conclusion that marijuana is a highly addictive gateway drug, that it has no accepted medical use, and that it cannot be used safely under any circumstances. He may also add something about the message legalization would send to our children.

Finally, he will answer the question: NO. If he's feeling extremely verbose, he may point out that "legalization" isn't even in his vocabulary.

Is there anybody here that has even the slightest doubt about the accuracy of my prediction?
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
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Petition the sorry fucker all ya want. He'll just figure out how to put another "lettered" agency on our ass.
DEA-locking us up
ATF-Now I can't possess a firearm OR ammunition
DOJ-Lets fill the charges and prosecute.
NSA-Lets snoop, in their best interest of course, around in their private emails and other electric media, and see what this bunch of evil stoners are up to.
Homeland Security-Lets declare all growers to be terrorists so when can lock em up and send em to GITMO.
DOE-Maybe he could get the DOE to lock us up and fine our ass for using/wasting power to grow a federally illegal crop
Don't put anything past this community organizer. He's organizing as much of the law enforcement community to go after us as hard as he can. I'm really digging the hell outta all the change. How bout you?
 

Preacher

Member
No need to bother. I have the power to see into the future. Here's how the president will respond:

First, he'll make light of the issue. Maybe make a joke about what this petition tells us about the people who frequent the web. Something like, "Poor, stupid stoners. Will they never learn?"

Then, if he has the time, he will explain how he has turned this question over to the appropriate experts, the DEA. After careful consideration, the DEA will have come to the conclusion that marijuana is a highly addictive gateway drug, that it has no accepted medical use, and that it cannot be used safely under any circumstances. He may also add something about the message legalization would send to our children.

Finally, he will answer the question: NO. If he's feeling extremely verbose, he may point out that "legalization" isn't even in his vocabulary.

Is there anybody here that has even the slightest doubt about the accuracy of my prediction?
I have the slightest doubt- I'm not sure he'll even put that much effort into it.
 

crazybear

Member
I signed the petition & many others concerning cannabis, I hope it will do some good!
I also emailed the president, emailed the new york times letter to the editor! Who knows we make enough noise with good concerns maybe somebody will listen!:plant grow:
 

zenoonez

Active member
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Wouldn't vote for that traitorous piece of shit to be the guy who scoops up road kill on desert roads.

Not sure I would go that far. That being said, I would have voted for him over Bush 41 in a heartbeat but after that he quit being a "maverick" the one thing I loved about him, his intellectual independence was gone. Does anyone actually think that Ron Paul will win? If he doesn't who is going to give you a better shot at reform or legalization Obama or Romney? I mean sure someone else could win, Cain, Perry, Bacchmann but are they any better on the issue? I understand we are on a weed site and thats what matters here but did you really expect Obama to legalize it in the first term? I mean seriously. No doubt there is legitimate criticism of his handling of MMJ policy as it has been misleading and inconsistent and there is certainly the grumblings of a larger and wider crackdown to come but does anyone think that it would be any better under the current stable of republican candidates?

You want to change Obama's mind? Go write an email, send it to the president, then print it out and mail it to him. Go find hundreds of emails about the subject, rewrite one of them each day and email it and mail it in. End each one with, "I voted for you last time but if things don't change in regard to the increased pressure against MMJ I will vote for Ron Paul next year." It won't make a difference though unless you can get a ton of people to do it though. If this is what people were doing, writing letters, blowing up the white house phones for weeks and months on end it might change something.
 

stihgnobevoli

Active member
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Wake up to the point that if I could go back I would choose John McCain? No.
why would you do something stupid like that, it was all a setup in the first place. obama was always going to win. even if he lost he won since we would be stuck with mc-cane.
 
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