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Mosaic virus, Overwatering, Too mush nitro, WTF?

yeah

Member
So during veg my plants started off looking great then started to look like Nitro toxicity, dark green, leaves curled down very brittle stunted growth. Plants were in 4" rockwool cubes. I flushed them then transplanted them to botanicare readygrow aeration mix and put them in the flower room to veg for two weeks. Within a couple of days they made a great turn around and started vegging great. Then about two weeks in to flower it started to happen again. They are now 20 days into flower and look bad. What the hell is going on. I have ran this same stain for a little over a year in the exact same conditions and have never had a problem. Any Ideas would be great.

How long has this problem been going on?
1 week in flower

Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)
no

What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
Ebb and Flow tables floods 2 times a day

What STRAIN are you growing?
Bubba Kush

What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
Clone

What is the age of your plants?
8 weeks from being cut

How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)
1 month

How tall are the plants?
18-24 inches

What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
Flower

What Technique are you using?
Ebb and Flow on tables 200 gallons recirculating reservoir

What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
Rockwool Cubes plants in coco

What is the Water temperature?
70

What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
bright white

What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)
GH flora series 1-2-3

How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water?
200 ml Magical
500ml Grow 1000 Micro 1500 Bloom in 200 gallons of water
100ml Floralicious Plus
200ml roots excellerator
1000ml Hygrozyme
1000ml Bud Candy

How often are you feeding? (If using soiless)
Twice while lights are on

How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless)
Every Feeding

If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
2nd week of flower

What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
Magical
Micro
grow
Bloom
floralocious plus
roots excell
hygrozyme
bud candy

What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
1400

What is the pH of the "Tank"?
5.5-6.3 in a week

How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?
Every Day. PPM starts at 1400 then drops to 1320 in a week
Ph starts at 5.5 then goes to about 6.2-6.3 in a weel

Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment?
yes

When was your last watering?
last night

What is your water temps?
70

When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
Every thursday

How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
every week

What size bulb are you using?
1000

How old is the bulbs you are using?
10 weeks

What is the distance to the canopy?
24 inch

What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
50-65

What is the canopy temperature?
day 88 night 78

What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
day 84-88 night 72-78

What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
864 when venting

Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
closed system co2 bottled 1350 ppm. when temps hit 88 vent kickes in 8" can fan max drops temp to 84

Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
yes

Is your water HARD or SOFT?
hard

What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled?
RO

If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
20 ppm

Are you using water from a water softener?
no

Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
yes 2 weeks ago. clones and pruned

Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
Are plant's infected with pest's
No
 

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ThePizzaMan

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yeah, that is not TMV...I know because my Reservoir ChemDD has it, and looks nothing like what you have there. My first guess would be overwatering....

Also, 1400 ppm's is a bit high for that stage of flowering isn't it?

You say you have run this strain before, and done the exact same things with great results? What part of your routine have you changed? Coco can be overwatered...so that is why I'm saying overwatering as a first guess.

I will let someone who is more experienced with toxicity issues chime in here.

TPM
 

yeah

Member
think I found my problem.... notice the NPK of the Bloom and Micro. Just bought these and immediately started to have issues. I Do not know if this is a misprint or what but didn't have any issue till I started using them.
 

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GF-Z

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Hi, if you can - chech rootballs, they will tell you everything... P def, mostly comes with weak roots.. ;]
 

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