With so many fem seeds I'm a little noided that nanners could pop up on a plant or two although none have yet. I have prophylacticly used an organic and food safe anti mold spray to help guard against bud rot so I'm not too worried.
First grow: 300+ plant 3000 watt vertical
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With so many fem seeds I'm a little noided that nanners could pop up on a plant or two although none have yet. I have prophylacticly used an organic and food safe anti mold spray to help guard against bud rot so I'm not too worried.
The grower at the hydro store assured me that these were vertical cords and that it's safe to hang them in a tent so I'm a little bit confused about what is unsafe about it. I'm planning on getting an RO filter for the next grow. I've figured that I have heavy water and so I've just been skipping adding any cal mag to the feeding regimen. I also figured that since calcium wont burn plants I'll just add what I'll add anyways which is a light feeding every watering. I bring the PPM up to about 1000 which I figure is light if I subtract out the beginning 400 ppm pollutants. The plants seem to like it.yeah, if you have herms cull them, simple as that. If you don't have air moving around those buds, mold will grow.
Are you really hanging the lamps by their cords? are you f-ing shitting me? That's a huge fire hazard. All you have to do is bump that tent wrong, and they're coming down. Burnt plants is the best case scenario. Chain is cheap. Secure those lamps.
Get out the scissors and do some trimming. you don't need those fan leaves anymore.... Remove them. Especially the yellow and brown crispy ones that are already decaying and will crawl up into your buds and cause bud-rot.
400ppm? Really? You don't have $100 for an RO filter? I try to keep my feed at 800ppm. That doesn't leave much room for additives if your tap is 400ppm.
Anyway, good job so far on your first grow!
I'm not pretending this is legal. I'm also not a rich man. I've got 45k in student loans to pay off. I'm also not a violent narco lord. I'm just a peace loving Buddhist stoner accountant.
I am honored that my shenanigans have drawn a leave it to beaver reference!!! That was one of my favorite shows. I remember spending many an afternoon with my late grandfather watching leave it to beaver reruns on TVLAND. Good memories!!!
Rule #1- don't tell anyone. Rule #2- the guy at the hydro store doesn't know jack shit.
There are 2 things wrong with this picture. 1- your lamp cord is not secured. If the tension is relieved and the roof of that tent pops up, your lamp could fall and hit the plants or the ground, and cause a fire. 2- Never hang a lamp by the cord b/c you're stretching the cord, and over a period of time that will decrease it's efficiency. Also, having it draped over the bar like that at such an angle, that breaks the coils inside the cord, also decreasing the efficiency. This stuff was cover by one of the guy that made a yo-yo light mover. I forget who specifically.
Ok, and then there's this picture... You've been told by more than 1 member to remove those fan leaves. I think you should trust us and pull out the fiskars and hack off anything that's not attached to a budsite, along with the backside of those plants cause they're not getting any light. Or, leave them, the leaves will rot while they're on the plant, all the way up to the buds, and cause bud rot... not that I've ever seen it happen...
Good call on skipping the cal/mag, but I only bring my water up to 200ppm w/ the cal/mag... and then that only leaves 600ppm for nutes. Ca might not burn the plants, but it will lock out other nutrients if it's in excess... I use 50/50 RO/tap, and my tap is 200ppm. I forget if you have well water or ground water... or if it was mentioned, but then you also have to be concerned about the chloramine levels. Chloramine isn't like chlorine, it sits in the water for a long time. You might think your plants are happy now, but pick up some distilled water and use that with 25% of your tap... and see what your plants look like. I bet they'll look even better. If you're not using Drip Clean, get some, and use it 1mL a gallon. That'll help as well.
I wouldn't stress so much about using fem seeds. I find it's the grower that's the problem most of the time, not the seeds, fem or standard.
I removed the fan leaves as you said, most of them anyways. I left some at the bottoms so that there'll be a little green left on the plants to reveg and left the ones attached to bud-sites except the dead ones like you said. I taped the lamp cord up better but won't get a chain until this weekend when I have time off work. This is why I'm so glad to be an ICMAG member, you might have just saved my house from burning down!!! +rep The guy at the hydro shop seemed pretty experienced but he didn't know much about vertical growing, and freely admitted that. I just took his word when he looked it up and found me those vertical cords.Rule #1- don't tell anyone. Rule #2- the guy at the hydro store doesn't know jack shit.
There are 2 things wrong with this picture. 1- your lamp cord is not secured. If the tension is relieved and the roof of that tent pops up, your lamp could fall and hit the plants or the ground, and cause a fire. 2- Never hang a lamp by the cord b/c you're stretching the cord, and over a period of time that will decrease it's efficiency. Also, having it draped over the bar like that at such an angle, that breaks the coils inside the cord, also decreasing the efficiency. This stuff was cover by one of the guy that made a yo-yo light mover. I forget who specifically.
Ok, and then there's this picture... You've been told by more than 1 member to remove those fan leaves. I think you should trust us and pull out the fiskars and hack off anything that's not attached to a budsite, along with the backside of those plants cause they're not getting any light. Or, leave them, the leaves will rot while they're on the plant, all the way up to the buds, and cause bud rot... not that I've ever seen it happen...
Good call on skipping the cal/mag, but I only bring my water up to 200ppm w/ the cal/mag... and then that only leaves 600ppm for nutes. Ca might not burn the plants, but it will lock out other nutrients if it's in excess... I use 50/50 RO/tap, and my tap is 200ppm. I forget if you have well water or ground water... or if it was mentioned, but then you also have to be concerned about the chloramine levels. Chloramine isn't like chlorine, it sits in the water for a long time. You might think your plants are happy now, but pick up some distilled water and use that with 25% of your tap... and see what your plants look like. I bet they'll look even better. If you're not using Drip Clean, get some, and use it 1mL a gallon. That'll help as well.
I wouldn't stress so much about using fem seeds. I find it's the grower that's the problem most of the time, not the seeds, fem or standard.
cool. i learned early on not to listen to the folks at the shop. although when i switched stores the lady at the new one was awesome, i always did my research. in no time at all i quit asking questions at the store and just looked around here. everything you need to know is around somewhere. you just have to dig deep sometimes.
More experienced than a newb grower isn't saying much bro. The guys are the hydro shop are there to make money. My advice is free, and my resume is stickied at the top of the forum. Lots of experienced growers around here, many better than myself. I just post a lot.
Get your information here, use the search bar and ask lots of questions. Then go buy what you need.
I had a guy at the hydro shop tell me I shouldn't reuse my coco... I'm in there buying 10+ bricks at a time... and he wants to give me advice? Who do you think grows more plants? lol...
Keep at it, you're killin it for your first time imo.
311devon
Member
I agree with this 100%. Most would have crashed and burned with something of this scale for their first time. Hell, I screwed up a 3 plant soil grow my first go round.
Keep at it. Listen to Bobble. Dude knows his shit. Ya don't get stickied for being a dumb ass.
The federal penalties being less severe than state penalties it would be common sense to hope for the less severe of the two. That said I've taken every precaution. I have a house with a a ten man hot tub to justify the large power bills. I use carbon scrubbers and ozone for odor. I don't post here from unsecured computers and I've told no one of the op. I try to speak to my neighbors as little as possible but when I do I'm very polite. I'm a good neighbor and the American flag flies in front of my house and I'm even respectful hanging it at half mast on appropriate days and taking it down in bad weather. I am a clean cut white guy not subject to profiling and I'm known in the community as having a good reputation and being civilly minded and involved in charity work with a couple fraternal organizations with whom I'm a member. I'm a civil war reenactor and a good tax accountant. I'm the last person anyone would suspect of being a grower. Its highly unlikely that I'll ever have a raid but if I do I hope its DEA and not locals... Wrap your head around that, lol.
You won't have a raid mate you're a clever bloke and you won't fuck up. You're smashing it onwards and upwards you can do anything if you have the brains.
ThcInfused
Member
nicely done! thats a whole lot of plants my friend 
Well done, listen to bobble....read....study....do NOT listen to hydrowhore dudes/dudettes...youll be fine"..................hopefully.
dj_greenthumb
Member
You got balls man!
I'm doing my first ever grow with 50 seeds (5 strains) so I thought I was a little bit ambitious (crazy) but you have given me peace of mind that it can be done if you take the time to read and listen.
Happy growing, looking forward to the final push!
I'm doing my first ever grow with 50 seeds (5 strains) so I thought I was a little bit ambitious (crazy) but you have given me peace of mind that it can be done if you take the time to read and listen.
Happy growing, looking forward to the final push!
Respect RJ99, way to go... if you want to do something do it properly... looking good for the first run... keep trimming dead leaf & keep a eye out for Powder Mildew, Nanners & Bugs... you should pull through nicely
Agreed that the cord draped over the tent poles is a little funky, and could be stabilized better, but I don't think that RJ99's hanging the lamps by their cords is the huge safety hazard it's being made out to be. The lamp itself is a single bulb and has very little mass. The weight of the lamp itself is not enough to stretch and damage the cord. It is pretty standard to have a single bulb hanging from its electrical cord. Many household ceiling lamp fixtures with much more mass are designed to be suspended from the ceiling by the cord.
The issue of damage by bending the fine stranded wires within the cord was brought up. The cord where it hangs over the tent pole is not really bent at an extreme sharp angle. I don't think this is significantly stressing the inner wire strands. This was addressed with lamp movers which continuously are flexing the lamp cord day after day with no end. This is not the situation we have here.
Fire safety is a highest priority. Burn your house down from a grow and the insurance will not cover it, and you're going to jail as well. But in this case, I don't believe that RJ99's lamp hanging method is really threatening the integrity of the electrical cord and his house.
The issue of damage by bending the fine stranded wires within the cord was brought up. The cord where it hangs over the tent pole is not really bent at an extreme sharp angle. I don't think this is significantly stressing the inner wire strands. This was addressed with lamp movers which continuously are flexing the lamp cord day after day with no end. This is not the situation we have here.
Fire safety is a highest priority. Burn your house down from a grow and the insurance will not cover it, and you're going to jail as well. But in this case, I don't believe that RJ99's lamp hanging method is really threatening the integrity of the electrical cord and his house.
How many household lamps pull 1000w or even 600w? Please don't spread misinformation. It's not the weight of the lamp alone, it's the heat generated and the weight. Then you put all of that weight on one point in the cord, draped over a pole? The vertical light mover uses a wheel that makes the angle much more gradual and give the cord more support than a pole.
A highbay is a better comparison... and they're hung with solid poles encasing the cord.
Like I said, all that has to happen is you trip and fall, bump the tent, and the lamp comes crashing down. It's not that unlikely. Better to be safe than sorry.
you should never hang any electrical appliance by the cord, i thought every n00b knew that.
