Quality of high... What defines connesseur quality cannabis?

[Cappy]

There is no definition that another person can give you that is relevent to you.

Your high is determined by your individual tolerance level to the cannabinoids that get us a mind change. The higher your tolerance the less high you get. The amount you smoke of a given strain to achieve and maintain an expected high will increase if you don't moderate your usage.

In other worde, only YOU know the answer to this question.

 

[Rusty420]

i also like plants that taste nice and fufil a high like i want at that time...i smoke and need to do stuff, like go to work and fix machinery on the odd occaision at random times, normaly 1/3 into a doob i get a call..so no come down weed is essential, and i need a pain relief tasty kush type thing for may back pain from driving/working/growing..im looking at X18 for this quality at present..then CBG PCK.

great thread, tasty organic/well grown dro weed FTW!

 

[toddv]

keeps getting it done

keeps getting it done

Green Crack from N Cali.

 

[Iron_Lion]

I like a nice clear, clean high, that makes me feel enhanced, not shittier than I felt before I smoked. Taste would lean toward woody(sandal wood, pine, cedar), herbal, incense, even earthy is good, or blueberry.

What I dont like is muddy, debilitating highs, I like OG despite the strong body high but Im fuckin sick of the flavor. Been smoking way too much OG and crosses this year give the the haze!

 

[SOTF420]

Hands down you need some Sweet Tooth #4 IBL in your life! Clear buzz, very happy, energetic, not overpowering and very low to no anxiety or paranoia. Very nice heady euphoria and just all around damn good quality high that enhances your life and puts a smile on your face. But don't just believe me you can read the smoke reports in my forum from the testers. If there is one strain reputed to have a happy feel good buzz for the last decade it would be Sweet Tooth in one form or another. The combination of the Sweet Pink Grapefruit and oldschool BB from DJ are just hard to beat plus it flowers fast in about 8 weeks from 12/12 flip, has a nice sweet to hashy flavor and is covered in juicy sticky sweet frost. Nice yielder too and big strong plants with thick stems I mean really what else can you ask for in a strain. Did I mention it's Grapefruity?

 

[moonwalker]

Potent racy sativa. Paranoia is what it does to newbies otherwise its weak and lacking bud. And theres always a ceiling. Good electric weed can put me right back though. Pleasant smell is good but it all comes to high in the end.

 

[draco]

i'm with ya there moonwalker! but if you smoke a lot, by god it's gotta taste good, ya know? that''s a great reason in itself to grow your own.

i love the taste of all good weed - sativa/indica no matter. but the really mood inducing/ electrifying daymaker sativas taste so sweet... so sweet...


mmm. talked myself into a little session there... brb

 

[Rinse]

paranoia has got nothing to do with the weed.

try smoking a "paranoid" strain in some place where there are absolutely no people you dont trust and no chance of them bugging you.

you are not fighting the weed, but your own insecurities.

This is partly true, its both your mental state and the type of weed, some strains do have an edgy quality.

Hands down you need some Sweet Tooth #4 IBL in your life! Clear buzz, very happy, energetic, not overpowering and very low to no anxiety or paranoia. Very nice heady euphoria and just all around damn good quality high that enhances your life and puts a smile on your face. But don't just believe me you can read the smoke reports in my forum from the testers. If there is one strain reputed to have a happy feel good buzz for the last decade it would be Sweet Tooth in one form or another. The combination of the Sweet Pink Grapefruit and oldschool BB from DJ are just hard to beat plus it flowers fast in about 8 weeks from 12/12 flip, has a nice sweet to hashy flavor and is covered in juicy sticky sweet frost. Nice yielder too and big strong plants with thick stems I mean really what else can you ask for in a strain. Did I mention it's Grapefruity?

Can I be a tester

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

I think there's a link between the paranoia and too much alcohol, at least for me. When I've been drinking regularly, even a small amount, I'm much more likely to get paranoid from an 'up' sativa.

Another thing I've noticed is that sativa highs are harder to build up tolerance to. Seems like the strong indica's are always better the first time you smoke 'em, then you rapidly adjust. Good sativas tend to keep you on your toes.

 

[devilgoob]

Paranoia is a type of intelligence.

I wonder what OTHER cannabinoids sativas produce more of?

 

[SOTF420]

Want to add that this whole Indica vs Sativa argument is really bullshit. Ultimately various Indica's and Sativa's are from different parts of the world and many of these strains everyone is calling a pure Indica or Sativa are in fact hybrids. I find it hilarious the constant berating that goes on back and forth over the Indica vs Sativa. It comes down more to the variety itself than whether it's an Indica or Sativa. In the case of my favorite plant it's a balanced hybrid of both and I find that the best quality most balanced effects described by the OP of this thread come from a blend of the two. Unless you are quoting a landrace strain that you know for certain is 100% Indica or Sativa the whole argument is really null & void because all the big popular strains that almost everything is bred from like like Skunk #1, Northern Lights, Chemdog, Diesel, Blueberry, Sweet Tooth, C99, Bubblegum, White Widow, Big Bud, and too many more to list are ALL Indica/Sativa hybrids.

 

[CalcioErba2004]

Quality of high is dependent upon the person. Being a budtender I learned that everyone is different. Most of the people that come in want something that sticks them to their couch. I have had a few older heads that ask for sativas and most of the people that are in their late 20s and early 30s want hybrids. This is a generalization based on my experience...

Me personally, give me those mind numbing sativas, paranoia and all(which by the way is all in one's head, you're in control, not the weed). I like to get out and do things, not live my life on a couch watching an idiot box...

 

[swayzak]

Quality of high... What defines connesseur quality cannabis?

I did a little experiment last night, starting with the most sativa dominant i have, a zamal haze x (sourdiesel x (northern lights x white widow)). Produces a high pitched and focused buzz. I could relax and let it expand in the headspace or focus and collapse it to a buzzing point. Not as strong as i would like though. Then i tried a cross with that and my fast blue, which bulked the buds and and added resin and power. I call that pheno Z4. Another pheno (z3) is just as good but a little dreamier.. A more expansive buzz and easier to get lost in the moment.

All of them had flowered for 13 weeks. Several plants weren't quite done, but growing in a cab only 50 cm tall has it's own constraints


sotf: it's not an indica vs sativa thing, someone made a comment I liked a while ago, that most complain about the ceiling of a high, but he gripes when there is no "bottom" in a buzz. It's a rainbow spectrum of delights, and I want to enjoy the full breadth of available experiences.

 

[VerdantGreen]

for quality of high, i find its best to not look for the most potent strains which tend to lack subtlety and just be like a bat to the head.

give up a little potency and smoke strains like blueberry, cherry bomb, pure haze for quality and nuance of high.

VG

 

[Oldskool7142]

What makes connoisseur grade...well connisseour grade to me has to hit every point on the checklist an thats as follows

Proper care
This is very important too much good herb is mishandled an poorly stored which severely affects the quality of the bud... they need to be properly stored in jars an stored away from light an need to be treated very carefully as its grown an after its cut from the plant so trichomes dont burst or break off the plant... this ensures optimum potency

Proper Flush
VERY VERY IMPORTANT this affects the flavor more than anything but all nutrients need to be discontinued during the final 2 weeks of flowering an the plant needs to be overdosed with water to clear out the medium so the roots can suck up nothing but fresh water

Curing
The biggest cut corner with cultivated cannabis... after the bud is properly dried it needs to be stored in a jar for atleast a month, the jar needs to be cracked twice a day to replace built up gas's an moisture from the buds... this does two things, one it ensures the moisture content of the bud evens out because during hang drying the outside of the bud dries faster than the inside, curing corrects this imbalance an 2 a chemical process called carboxylation (i believe thats the term, could i get a correction from a wise grower please?) occurs this is where non-psychoactive acidic THC compounds are transformed into there base psychoactive form making your cannabis more potent

Lineage
This one is debatable so i wont go to into it but essentially your bud needs to be of a good lineage of cannabis, fantastic strains are grown all over the earth Malawi, Cambodian, Thai, Hindu Kush, these are some parent based land race strains of exceptional quality crossbreeding these gives us tens of thousands of strains of unique herb to choose from, but not all are of connoisseur grade by no means but everybodys preference is also different so lineage of good quality is truely in the eye of the beholder but i think we can all agree strains with ruderalis or "autoflowering" genetics is a complete joke an it severly dumbs down otherwise fantastic genetics

Organics
Another debatable one but generally speaking growing organically in a greenhouse is without a doubt the top tier of the exceptional cultivation methods, nothing can beat a combination of sun grown natural herb with the protection of a controlled enviroment like a greenhouse

Proper Harvest
Another overlooked bullet point that should never be overlooked the proper time to harvest your herb is another debatable one but one must pay attention to the maturity of the trichomes to determine proper harvesting time. For me this means a 15% amber trich to 85% cloudy trichome ratio... you need a magnifying lens for this, as trichomes take on an amber color the degradation of THC compounds into other cannabinoids begins, reducing potency

Not being an idiot
The MOST IMPORTANT thing for a grower to know... don't be an idiot, dont overfeed your plants an give them nutrient burn, dont let the humidity in your grow room get to high this molds your buds, keep the PH balanced in your growing medium to prevent nutrient lockout, Prevent nutrient deficiencies by using trusted organic growing nutrients like foxfarm, an overall just be educated about what your doing

Well i hope this has helped =]

 

[habeeb]

I look for similar traits in daytime smoke..i found flo/f13 to be all that and in 6weeks flower.

this guy's got it

only I found F-13 to be a little overpowering for DJ



you might want to look at DJ. great strains, and what I call functional, clear, clean, enjoyable, and get's you high, not stoned

 

[burningfire]

Whatever floats your boat, I think everyone is after something different.

for myself, I enjoy something with a good all around good mood and a comfortable illuminating buzz, what I'm growing right now I would call high quality, because I crossed it with other varieties I enjoyed and selected for comfortable buzz. It doesn't mean that I don't enjoy something really psychoative or sedative once in a while.

There's one thing that could keep a strain from being what I'd call a connesseur strain, some hash plants are not meant to be smoked as herbal cannabis, they have they short lived but very strong and heavy body buzz that has no medical qualities, just strong and uncomfortable.

 

[Croissant]

Want to add that this whole Indica vs Sativa argument is really bullshit. Ultimately various Indica's and Sativa's are from different parts of the world and many of these strains everyone is calling a pure Indica or Sativa are in fact hybrids. I find it hilarious the constant berating that goes on back and forth over the Indica vs Sativa. It comes down more to the variety itself than whether it's an Indica or Sativa. In the case of my favorite plant it's a balanced hybrid of both and I find that the best quality most balanced effects described by the OP of this thread come from a blend of the two. Unless you are quoting a landrace strain that you know for certain is 100% Indica or Sativa the whole argument is really null & void because all the big popular strains that almost everything is bred from like like Skunk #1, Northern Lights, Chemdog, Diesel, Blueberry, Sweet Tooth, C99, Bubblegum, White Widow, Big Bud, and too many more to list are ALL Indica/Sativa hybrids.

Thank you, this is what I have been saying for years!!!
all my friends I know consider anything like less than 70% indica a sativa.... unless its a indica pheno sativa dom like cheese then its an indica. There are a lot of pure indicas that people would consider sativa just because of the clear head. Its a mixed up world and it comes down to specific qualities and traits of the cultivar. People just need to learn a little vocabulary to describe what they feel, which seems to be severely lacking in the pot smoking community.

 

[Rinse]

Oldskool thats not true about auto's if there bred correctly they still fine smoke especially outdoor/greenhouse.

I like my smoke to be clean, energizing, with some wierd/trippy quality's,
with a nice body stone and does not leave you feeling burnt out.
1st quality moroccan hash does the trick everytime or A good Outdoor kush.

 

[SuperConductor]

Paranoia is a type of intelligence.

I wonder what OTHER cannabinoids sativas produce more of?

You'll have to explain how paranoia is a type of intelligence before anyone will take it seriously. This is how cannabis makes people paranoid

http://mindhacks.com/2010/03/09/how-cannabis-makes-thoughts-tumble/

fascinating stuff, don't mistake hyper-priming for hyper-intelligence, or even a type of intelligence, and you'll be fine.

Someone mentioned alcohol and paranoia; it's a not very well known fact that drinking alcohol increases your chances of developing psychosis by 200%! For cannabis the same figure is 40%. No prizes for guessing which stat is more widely publicized.

It's not necessarily the cannabinoids that make for different highs btw the terpenoids play a bid role too and sativas definitely host a different range than indicas.

The main criteria for me is that weed must taste and smell good but must also put a big smile on my face every time. The fact that the high changes with each month in the jars makes it impossible to say this or that is a great strain for me. Basically too subjective to make sense to anyone else.