Do I need to pull my plants?

[thirst4knwledge]

Hello fellow growers. I have six outdoor plants that are 2-3 weeks from harvest. Here in beautiful northern california, we've been dealing with some wet weather recently. I had some budrot show up on one of my plants, so I cut it out and went to the local hydro store to get some "green cure". This was a couple days ago now, and since then the budrot has spread and shown up on a few spots on other plants. I've gone through all the plants at this point and sprayed heavily with full doses of greencure (2 tbsp/gal). Should I cut my losses and pull the plants or is budrot manageable when taken care of with a product such as this? I'd obviously rather not cut them down, but if there is a very good chance that this greencure won't work and the budrot will persist, then maybe it is my best choice. Any information and advice is appreciated. Here are some pics of the first infected plant that has been mended...

-t4k

 

[Hammerhead]

bud rot cut out the effected area and hope for the best. If its a lost cause and you have bud rot everywhere then yes compost and try again.


You wont be able to save the parts effected that's lost. It all depends on the amount of Rot you have. I would cut out as much as I could not spray anything on any of them. Try to get more air flow open the buds up to let them dry out. the moisture in the bud is casing the issue. Get them plants dry.

 

[wik-wik]

if i were u i'd cut them. u ll lost so much buds because of it

 

[SeaMaiden]

GC won't do much, if anything for budrot, you need something like OxiDate which is what I would, and do use. Up to the moment of harvest as well as post-harvest. Cut out the affected portions and treat with OxiDate is my recommendation. I would look for the stuff that has both H2O2 + PAA (paracetic acid, another peroxide that's very effective).

Are you sure they've got another two weeks to go? The plant you've pictured looks like it's darn near ready for choppy-chop to me.

 

[thirst4knwledge]

bud rot cut out the effected area and hope for the best. If its a lost cause and you have bud rot everywhere then yes compost and try again.


You wont be able to save the parts effected that's lost. It all depends on the amount of Rot you have. I would cut out as much as I could not spray anything on any of them. Try to get more air flow open the buds up to let them dry out. the moisture in the bud is casing the issue. Get them plants dry.

Sounds good, thanks. I went around and cut out all the affected parts this morning, keeping an eye on them now.

GC won't do much, if anything for budrot, you need something like OxiDate which is what I would, and do use. Up to the moment of harvest as well as post-harvest. Cut out the affected portions and treat with OxiDate is my recommendation. I would look for the stuff that has both H2O2 + PAA (paracetic acid, another peroxide that's very effective).

Are you sure they've got another two weeks to go? The plant you've pictured looks like it's darn near ready for choppy-chop to me.

The short answer is no I'm not sure. This is my first time growing with these strains, just going based on trichome maturity. The thing is that some people would probably say that most of these are somewhat read to go. The trichomes on the plant pictured are about 70/30 - 80/20 cloudy/clear. A couple of the other ones are even further along, having almost 100% cloudy trich's. When do you like to pull? I cut out a decent amount of rot this morning, no more spraying. I did check out oxidate but I think the smallest bottle I could find was like $30? Are there any stores in a well populated area (ie home depot, lowes, osh, nursery) that might carry oxidate? Good info, thanks.

-t4k

 

[SeaMaiden]

I have a difficult time using just trichomes to gauge doneness, so a friend of mine gave me some additional things to go by. However, given my druthers, I prefer mostly cloudy because I need the best, happiest, most UP high I can get, because I've got stuff to do and don't need help falling asleep.

Anyway, these are the other factors I take into consideration:

• Are the buds continuing to fatten, or has that progression slowed or stopped?
  Are they still throwing up lots of white pistils, or just a few?
  Are you finding those late-flowering bananas?
  Is the plant beginning to yellow, drop fan leaves? (I like it when they go very yellow, I have a thing for blonde buds)

How come only the first one on the list gets the bullet? I think they *all* deserve their own bullets. Oh well.

Outside of OxiDate, can you get a hold of H2O2 that's stronger than 3%? If that's all you can get, then I think you can apply that straight from the bottle (that would be expensive for me to try to do) as a foliar. Also, do you have any way to increase circulation? If there is still water on the buds, maybe carefully hit them with a leaf blower if you have one. I don't, so I end up shaking them, but that can easily lead to lots of broken branches.

There are other organic controls out there, but I've never used them. My biggest problem has always been finding the after-effects of sneaky bud worms and their frass, long after the plant's been pulled.

 

[Capt.Ahab]

Hey thirst4knwledge. Ive been dealing with the same problem. Mold everywhere on everything. After removing as much rotted/infected material as possible, I have kept the rot under control using a spray of regular 3% hydrogen peroxide alternated with a spray of 1 gallon plain tap water with 1 tsp. of baking soda and a couple drops of mild dishwashing detergent. The hydrogen peroxide will kill the spores and mold . You can see it foam up on contact with any rotted material. The baking soda also seems to be effective. The main problem with the hydrogen peroxide is that it turns into water and then you have the problem of wet buds which can bring on more mold. The baking soda mixture leaves the residual baking soda after it dries. At any rate, neither method will be very effective if environmental conditions really favor the mold. If it constantly raining or wet , you may as well hack the plants before you lose any more of your crop. If things are dry and you get some sun I would recommend first giving them a hydrogen peroxide spray , let them dry then do a baking soda spray and see what happens. Get a spray bottle and separate the buds and basically inject them with the solution. You want them dripping after the spray.

 

[MajLeeStoned]

Looks a lot like cat damage to me. Cut it now as I suspect the potential improvement is not as great as the potential damage. Good luck and keep us posted.



PPp

 

[djingo]

if the budrot mostly is in the top collas, u could try to cut the whole top bud.
lower branches do not have to be infected yet. this could safe rest the plant from rot and you can finish the flower cycle.

best of luck!

 

[djingo]

i forgot, u can stick pieces of a straw in the not infected buds. lots of fresh air is good too.

 

[Scrappy-doo]

I managed to almost completely avoid budrot when everyone in my area lost entire harvests to it. I used greencure and a good sprayer and sprayed absolutely every nook and cranny once a week.

I lost only about 2 or 3 grams to rot.

 

[Tactical Farmer]

Scrappy: Did you go 2 Tbs per gal or 1 ?

 

[Scrappy-doo]

I actually did slightly less than 1. One side effect of GC is that it might turn a few hairs on your buds brown. That's why I used less, and I still got a few brown hairs. It's very minor though.

Using a sprayer was really crucial because it allowed me to put the nozzle inbetween all the crevices of the buds and really get them completely drenched.

Check out my thread you can see how things turned out for me.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=216445&page=3