Little BHO question

[HobbyGrower]

This stuff looks amazing!

But, as a former meth-head, I've seen the ravages of indoor cooking. This stuff worries the shit out of me. I think I'll stick to extraction bags. Safer for me, safer for the neighborhood

 

[Gray Wolf]

Congratulations on your first batch TB!

Nice color!

 

[hammalamma]

6 cans of 250 ml sounds like way to much butane. I use ss turkey basters that fit roughly 23 grams in each and i can do two of them with one 300ml can of tane. And for any one who wants to hate I get returns above 20% with nugs. I think I use even less tane when running trim.

 

[jump117]

returns above 20% with nugs.

This does not mean that the cake was empty.
Butane is not more expensive than BHO.

 

[hammalamma]

This does not mean that the cake was empty.
Butane is not more expensive than BHO.

Not sure what you mean by this. I wasn't talking shit about his erl, looks delicious actually. Just trying to help, 6 cans just sounds like a lot of butane for that much material

 

[Gray Wolf]

Not sure what you mean by this. I wasn't talking shit about his erl, looks delicious actually. Just trying to help, 6 cans just sounds like a lot of butane for that much material

Sometimes I translate for brother Jump's intent. What I think he said is that even at 20% oil removal rate, the plant material may still have more left in it, given the length of time the butane was in contact with the plant matter on your experiment.

PS He is also saying that extra butane may be cheaper than the value of the added product

 

[Gray Wolf]

How much is enough and how much is too much butane! What a good topic!

I'm thinking that it has a lot to do with what kind of system you are using and whether you are talking BHO or BHO Absolutes (BHOA).

There is the more traditional flow through column, and there is soaking at low temperatures as championed by brother Jump of the North Country, as well as soaking and flushing in a butane extraction and recovery system.

If you are using a flow through system, column diameter has a big effect and about 1" seems to be optimum for the material and butane that I use. Larger than that gets more partially processed material from blind spots on the injection end and more channeling.

Based on that and using trim, on average I used a 300ml can per foot for a single pack, based on a 36" column. Yield on the trim varied greatly due to donations.

With prime bud I repacked at that point and shot it again until it ran clear.

The best I ever got using two packs was 21.6% BHO, but my average was maybe 18% and about 15% on the first pack. So maybe at worst that extra 3% cost me another 300 ml can, which costs around $1.80 a can here.

That is by no means miraculous, just I have also heard of levels up to around 25% or so. The amount of oil varies greatly by strain and the strains we process are usually grown for effect as opposed to oil production.

I will let brother Jump speak for soaking his local material in a thermos, and just touch on the point that Jump may be speaking of BHOA numbers, because he will have taken the inert waxes out.

Using the same general mix of strains, the best yield to date using repeated soak and flush cycles was 22.2% BHOA, worst was 17~% BHOA.

We haven't processed enough prime material to get a meaningful average yet, but
so far it is around the same high 21.6% BHOA that was our BHO high before.

Butane costs per flood and flood cycle is zero, it is just a function of the cost of the wear and tear on the pumps and electrical.

Sorry I don't have a direct comparison to BHO!

Besides brother Jump, what sorts of BHO and BHOA yields are the rest of ya'll getting?

 

[Hammerhead]

you guys resurrected a 4 year old thread

 

[walt cunningham]

i was going to say the same thing hammertime