Just want to remind; All Allelopathy is not bad.
companion planting
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If the secondary plants die off, they are not companion plants. Competition is always an issue. Even with the 3 sisters, they must be planted in order. Again you must identify which qualities you seek or the whole indoor polyculture thesis is a waste of indoor real estate and electrical energy. I'm sorry you're stuck in an apartment, but the whole idea of natural farming in such an unnatural environment only creates a zen factor when trying to produce a product. It not only takes more soil, you need to clarify the size of your pots, it takes more artificial light. It's a waste of resources.
As long as you can write a guide praising yourself on an old idea,I guess it's all cool.
As long as you can write a guide praising yourself on an old idea,I guess it's all cool.
That's right, dead plants are not companions anymore. Thanks for that. But that doesn't mean a plant can't accompany another for only part of its journey. If you need a new word for that, make one up.
Dead plants are mulch, and dead clover is green manure. I checked my crimson for nodulation and all systems are go.
If you bothered to read what is going on, I am trying to figure out the side lighting issue with LED. It doesn't take much. As I state in the thread, I suspect vert is the way to go FTW. You would also know by reading that when to sow, mow, etc... is being explored. We are not done yet, and you are complaining the bread is too doughy. Back off our backs and let the bakers bake, or contribute something useful. Outdoor growing mulches/companions especially needs input.
Sorry you are jealous of my thread, which is in praise of plants, not me. Maybe you should petition to get your own sticky. Or start a useful thread, or something. I am very grateful that our mods have allowed me some editorial input, so that we can discuss your objections here instead of mucking up a communal resource.
You just haven't read any of it if you think I don't account for container size. People with all kinds of containers are trying living mulches, and information trickles in as it becomes known. Again, you are pitting your theoretical caveat against the reality of exploration. Why not do some work so you can tell us about your experiences? Or be patient, wait for others to report, and base your theories on that? So far you are strong in your convictions but weak in evidence.
My containers are 15 gallon smart pots.
no, I think you need to calm down and let the process happen. I need to do LOTS of things before there is anything like a good thesis. I don't need any hecklers, that's for sure.
from the first post of the guide in praise of me. Please feel free to consider your actual real world experience so you can contribute to this:
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SeaMaiden
What? Doth thee try to shift my paradigm? Everyone knows that anything ending in 'pathy' is bad.
Well sorry rrog, but I kinda got called out here.
untrue. I have the same canopy space available regardless of how much soil I use. I always follow the rule to use the largest size container you can get away with. I have not wanted for soil since I started living mulches.
untrue. I have the same canopy space available regardless of how much soil I use. I always follow the rule to use the largest size container you can get away with. I have not wanted for soil since I started living mulches.
you mean fixed (ze)N, citric acid, and other root exudates? Or maybe you mean increased C? Perhaps you are referring to the zen-like feeling resulting from ease of use and pest avoidance? Or maybe it's the mitigation of the perched water table, allowing you to use a denser mix? Or perhaps you mean the "zen of less water usage"? Or the zen of eating fresh purslane? Or zen yarrow on your cut finger? Or zen mycorrhizae given a permanent zen home instead of having to zen reestablish every zen time?
another misconception here has to do with basic science. A plant's root system is not a big sponge that soaks up water and nutrients evenly throughout. Only a small part of the total root mass is actually taking anything up. So a plant in a 15 gallon container with a 2'x2' canopy has plenty of soil to share.
The entire length of the fibrous material you think of as "root" when you pull a plant is closed to the outside world. It's not absorbing anything. Only the tender tippy tips (the newest growth) are doing that job.
The entire length of the fibrous material you think of as "root" when you pull a plant is closed to the outside world. It's not absorbing anything. Only the tender tippy tips (the newest growth) are doing that job.
organicterra
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Is this true even if a plant is mycorrhizal?
the zen of having plantings in your box that provide little or no benefit other than the same benefits that can be provided by more mj plantings.
Are we growing purslane or pot? Purslane I can grow outside in the open.Why would I grow it under lights?
Nobody's called you out. I only question your premise which you seem to have difficulty in establishing. If you want the glory, be ready to answer questions. Defend your premise without getting defensive. I don't think it holds water for the situation.
I think I've made my point.
I'm not defending anything that can defend itself. The idea will catch on if people see benefits, and it will fade away if they don't.
Thank you all for your input.
I'm not defending anything that can defend itself. The idea will catch on if people see benefits, and it will fade away if they don't.
Thank you all for your input.
That is why mycorrhizal is of benefit; because it attaches to the new root growths, spreads out and brings nutrients to that area.
It is no different then why farmers go to all that damn trouble planting clover amongst their corn.
It is pretty clear that one important reason is to occupy the full area with root systems, especially near the surface. If their ain't no roots, there ain't no rhyzosphere and there ain't no rhyzosphere microbes...simple. So long as they are not competing plants, there is benefit. If the companion plant is an N provider, there is extreme benefit.
What? Doth thee try to shift my paradigm? Everyone knows that anything ending in 'pathy' is bad.
Hark and hence unto me maiden.
empathy
allopathy
homeopathy
telepathy
osteopathy
naturopathy
antipathy (describes moi)
hydropathy (considering your name you should embrace this one)
I contend that mjalso has roots that occupy the soil. It also isn't a nitrogen hog like corn.
Outside if you don't cover the ground, something will grow. We don't deal with that situation inside. Corn also really doesn't have much of a canopy and the roots grow differently. Hard to compare to mj indoors.
Outside if you don't cover the ground, something will grow. We don't deal with that situation inside. Corn also really doesn't have much of a canopy and the roots grow differently. Hard to compare to mj indoors.
Oh well, I tried;>
LOL
I know what you're saying and I don't contend there are no worthwhile sets of companion plants.
Clover makes a good cover crop. On this forum it has been established as a living mulch and has been differentiated from the term"companion".
At that, clover has been described as best grown outside the canopy, along the edge of the pot. It starves for light. To maintain it, unlike with corn, I would have to reduce my canopy. In a field situation, this might be desirable. If I was harvesting a second crop of equal value, it might be desirable. With a small basement grow or whatever, you're just using up space and energy to reduce your grow..
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