could be it could be bad luck with genes from multiple breeders... or did EVERYTHING hermie?
Keep getting hermies... hmm?
- Thread starter Yah`mon
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whats with this on/off light thing your doing???? I dont do that I do 12/12. When you fire your lights like that it will shorten there life. 18/6 Veg 12/12 bloom. This might be the stress your inducing.
Well there really isn't enough information in this entire thread to reach a conclusion because there are so many different things that can cause hermies.
I've always figured it like PoopyTeaBags, stars and moonlight never cause hermies with my OD so why would comparative light do with ID? If after 5 minutes you can't see a light leak then there isn't one that's causing hermies.
Are you growing from seed? Or clone?
If seeds, then how do you germinate? What is your process during seedling and veg stages?
If clones, what is your process?
How are the mothers treated?
I have had a few mothers in the past that threw hermie clones and simply changing how I treated the mothers and clones corrected it. Of course I have had em also when nothing corrected it and had to chop the momma.
If they are all from seed then I would look at different venders. Or try changing the method of germination.
Another thing I have seen that is fairly common in my area: Heavy metals in the water supply, especially silver, can cause hermies in cannabis plants.
I've always figured it like PoopyTeaBags, stars and moonlight never cause hermies with my OD so why would comparative light do with ID? If after 5 minutes you can't see a light leak then there isn't one that's causing hermies.
Are you growing from seed? Or clone?
If seeds, then how do you germinate? What is your process during seedling and veg stages?
If clones, what is your process?
How are the mothers treated?
I have had a few mothers in the past that threw hermie clones and simply changing how I treated the mothers and clones corrected it. Of course I have had em also when nothing corrected it and had to chop the momma.
If they are all from seed then I would look at different venders. Or try changing the method of germination.
Another thing I have seen that is fairly common in my area: Heavy metals in the water supply, especially silver, can cause hermies in cannabis plants.
Yah`mon
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There from seed. Paper towel germ method. I think the only way I'll come to a full drawn conclusion is growing out some clones of the plants.
Not full blown hermies, just nanners. (still pain in the ass)
My main guess right now is some timer issues. Think I've gotten the timers dialed now, so the 6 plants only 10days in will be given a close inspection daily. They haven't had to deal with any timer issues.
I thought the same thing about light leaks, but I was hoping it was something that simple. I've grown outdoors for years, but this is my first indoor, I'm still dialing her in.
hmm I forgot, I have a temp gauge in there it has a red dot about the size of a pinhead... blinks every few secs... it surely can't be something as small as a pin head red dot could it?
Thanks for all the reply's.
Yah`mon
Not full blown hermies, just nanners. (still pain in the ass)
My main guess right now is some timer issues. Think I've gotten the timers dialed now, so the 6 plants only 10days in will be given a close inspection daily. They haven't had to deal with any timer issues.
I thought the same thing about light leaks, but I was hoping it was something that simple. I've grown outdoors for years, but this is my first indoor, I'm still dialing her in.
hmm I forgot, I have a temp gauge in there it has a red dot about the size of a pinhead... blinks every few secs... it surely can't be something as small as a pin head red dot could it?
Thanks for all the reply's.
Yah`mon
I wouldn't think a tiny dot would cause issue unless it was right against a plant and shining directly on it.
But WTF? It is red and red light is your worst enemy during lights out. It is possible I suppose, the easiest way to eliminate it as a potential would be to stick a small piece of black tape over it probably...
Also I have never tried it but I have read in several papers and books that soaking seeds in either alcohol or hydrogen peroxide before germination will help eliminate hermies.
Like I said: I've never done it myself so I've no firsthand info about it, but quite a few people discuss it in different articles.
I'll flip thru some of the literature I have this afternoon and see if I can find something specific that I can direct you to or post here.
But WTF? It is red and red light is your worst enemy during lights out. It is possible I suppose, the easiest way to eliminate it as a potential would be to stick a small piece of black tape over it probably...
Also I have never tried it but I have read in several papers and books that soaking seeds in either alcohol or hydrogen peroxide before germination will help eliminate hermies.
Like I said: I've never done it myself so I've no firsthand info about it, but quite a few people discuss it in different articles.
I'll flip thru some of the literature I have this afternoon and see if I can find something specific that I can direct you to or post here.
I have a few small led lights. There is a Purple light on my router.there is a 4 green leds on my dsl modem. These have never caused a hermie issue for me. If your breakes are turning off like that your pulling to much of a load on that curcuit. When they get hot they tripp. You need to move some things arround to other circuits or wire in a new 30-50a pannel to run off of.
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Ziggaro
yeah I had some herms from power outage bet that's what happened with the breaker issue
with what you said about your nutes and environment I don't see what else could it be
with what you said about your nutes and environment I don't see what else could it be
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Ziggaro
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Yah`mon
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The breaker was prolly 15 years old. What happened was 15years ago I ran 100amp service to my pole barn. I didn't pic up enough wire and the electrician hooked the incoming wires together then put electrical tape around them instead of a junction.
I didn't have any problems until I turned the 4th light on, and could smell something "burning" down in the basement. It was his connection. I replaced the bad connection with a proper junction box. Then the breaker thing happened... I heard from an electrician about something similar with the breaker... the more it would trip the shorter it would allow things to run.
So I replaced it with a new breaker. I'm prolly pulling 50amps max on a 100amp service.
Within a weeks period lights on was at 6:15 then shut off at like 7:30 an I didn't realize it until the next day. Turned it on....at 6:05 lights stayed on for about an hour. Then off for 30-40mins... then I turned them back on... they went out 20mins later... ran and got a new breaker, turned the lights back on about 1 1/2 hr later. Then a few days of dialing in the timers perfectly.... I'm thinking this caused it.
I think the lights were a little out of sink, because using water heater timers with 30min increments if you move it a little bit... it could be 10mins or more. So I finally have them turning on within 1-2mins of each other.
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses so far.
I've got some tweezers with a light+magnifying glass, so I'll be plucking any nanners.
Yah`mon
I didn't have any problems until I turned the 4th light on, and could smell something "burning" down in the basement. It was his connection. I replaced the bad connection with a proper junction box. Then the breaker thing happened... I heard from an electrician about something similar with the breaker... the more it would trip the shorter it would allow things to run.
So I replaced it with a new breaker. I'm prolly pulling 50amps max on a 100amp service.
Within a weeks period lights on was at 6:15 then shut off at like 7:30 an I didn't realize it until the next day. Turned it on....at 6:05 lights stayed on for about an hour. Then off for 30-40mins... then I turned them back on... they went out 20mins later... ran and got a new breaker, turned the lights back on about 1 1/2 hr later. Then a few days of dialing in the timers perfectly.... I'm thinking this caused it.
I think the lights were a little out of sink, because using water heater timers with 30min increments if you move it a little bit... it could be 10mins or more. So I finally have them turning on within 1-2mins of each other.
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses so far.
I've got some tweezers with a light+magnifying glass, so I'll be plucking any nanners.
Yah`mon
Yah`mon
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Well I went out there and sat in the dark for 15mins.
One of my fresh air ducts comes in then there's a grating on the inside of the room. If you bend down at the right angle you can notice it.
Although I couldn't see my hand in front of my face 2'' away after the 15mins. I'm going to get it covered better tonight.... dunno if it could be that... plants that got nanners are on opposite side of the room.
Yah`mon
One of my fresh air ducts comes in then there's a grating on the inside of the room. If you bend down at the right angle you can notice it.
Although I couldn't see my hand in front of my face 2'' away after the 15mins. I'm going to get it covered better tonight.... dunno if it could be that... plants that got nanners are on opposite side of the room.
Yah`mon
Yah`mon
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Man... what a pain in the ass picking these things off. Most are located at the bottom of the node, but between the nug and the branch. Some were easier... right in the open.
Frustrating shit... when everything looks so great.
Where some were located prolly wouldn't have done much damage besides the calyx directly next to it.
Also it seems some come directly out of female pre flowers. Or female calyxes.... I don't know much bout nanners.... is this normal?
One things for sure... having had a plant about 4 weeks ago do the same and pollinate a lot... It kept me on my toes and I caught these much sooner. Minor damage probably.
Yah`mon
Frustrating shit... when everything looks so great.
Where some were located prolly wouldn't have done much damage besides the calyx directly next to it.
Also it seems some come directly out of female pre flowers. Or female calyxes.... I don't know much bout nanners.... is this normal?
One things for sure... having had a plant about 4 weeks ago do the same and pollinate a lot... It kept me on my toes and I caught these much sooner. Minor damage probably.
Yah`mon
you wont find them all. I had some that where in the middle of the bud no way to se it.
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jonnybgood29
like someone suggested before, invest in some reverse and penetrator.... even if you get a couple of nenners, that stuff will prevent pollenation of the bud.... no picking of nanners needed!
Yah`mon
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Yes lights on at night time. But the room is inside a barn, has 6'' studs. 6'' of insulation r-20... 3/4'' plywood then 2'' Styrofoam. No lights coming in via day light.
I believe the cause to be timer issues and or the fresh air intake with small amount of light coming through grating. Although even with that after 20 mins in the dark I could not see my hand 2'' in front of my face.
Yah`mon
I believe the cause to be timer issues and or the fresh air intake with small amount of light coming through grating. Although even with that after 20 mins in the dark I could not see my hand 2'' in front of my face.
Yah`mon
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jonnybgood29
then it was more than likely your light timers. keep cool and watch to see if your next run is ok, until them keep an eye on the ladies flowering, with some breeds, once stressed, always stressed and will keep throwing nanners intil harvest, others settle down after the first.
