We The People - Petition the President

[DiscoBiscuit]

Well I guess they are allowing mj questions! Here is a link to vote on Norml's petition!

This is over 5k sigs already I have no ide a why they are letting this all happen... seems way to legit and honest. I'm sure it will be a huge percentage of MJ petitions!!!

It's cool, links to this...

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitio...ate-marijuana-manner-similar-alcohol/y8l45gb1

 

[KSP]

that is all a pot smoking lowlife has to do all day is collect unemployment and surf the net while the hardworking people of this country pay their way. Librul potheads! Their all on the dope!

lol sounds like my biblebilly relatives.

Signed by the way - thanks for posting Tony.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I still think they will bin any pot related petition. why? they are fascist. It is that simple

The DEA shot there self in the foot. they coulda settled for quasi legal pot though a federal mmj law, but instead they insisted it has no medicinal value. Now the 175 million Americans that think it should be legal will just push for full legalization, and as Big herb tree says 17 million people versus 5,500 agents the people will win eventually. (some of those agents are just pencil pushers too.)

 

[pearlemae]

I poste dthe same info the first of Sept, and got little response hope this one goes better. ut apathy is rampan...ah who cares.....

 

[Midnight Rudy]

what's with that bogus link Midnight Rudy? I didn't want to get infected so I didn't link to it.

what's that, bt.ly/5435345? that looks real legitimate

Half the petitions on that website are about Marijuana

Sorry guys. That was just "copy link" from the normal blog. I didn't even look at what it said, but I did test it and it worked/works. Sorry for any confusion, but it is from norml so I am sure it is safe. I was just rushing to post the infor while my kid was in the other room.

 

[PirateGodBuggy]

How about getting all these people who signed to march in DC...


We all know this signature stuff isn't going to do anything at all...

 

[Tony Aroma]

I still think they will bin any pot related petition.

What, you don't believe "White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response"? You really think elected officials would blatantly lie to us?

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I have no doubt that the petition will be reviewed by the appropriate policy experts, the DEA. I am so confident, that I will go out on a limb and make a prediction as to the president's official response following that review:

After the DEA evaluates the issue carefully and considers all the pros and cons as well as all the available scientific data, the official response will be "NO". And, since the response will be written and the president can't literally laugh out loud on camera, I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is punctuated with and/or LOL.

Feel free to quote me on that prediction. And don't forget to congratulate me when you discover how prescient I really am.

 

[trichrider]

then you know what i was about to say...

 

[Rob547]

Yep, time for some bullshit response about how it has no medical benefits, crime this, our poor children that, blah blah blah.
As of today it is far ahead as the most signatures, around 16000, and there are i think 2 other questions regarding cannabis. One of the others is pretty much requesting the govt admit their knowledge etc of extra-terrestrials lol

 

[Preacher]

If I remember correctly the last time Obama did something like this the most asked question was about legalizing MJ, and that was completely ignored.

Yep. Happened then, gonna happen now. It was also the only topic in the top whatever was sufficient to make him have to answer that didn't get a paragraph response. "President Obama is against the legalization of marijuana". That's it. And that's honestly probably the smartest thing he could do for himself: reputable fact-checking sites would tear the shit out of a paragraph response.

This issue burns on the minds of a pretty damn sizable minority of the population yet I've never seen it take center stage in the media cycle. Imagine that.
Edit: no surprise it has a 3:2 lead on the second most-popular entry already.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

HRC said it short and sweet at the previous UN meeting. Calderon approached Clinton about the legalization of mj. His appeal was logical, there's no practical solution other than legalization.

Clinton's response?

'Yeah, but there's so much money in it.'

It's not the dangers of weed. Money in the wrong hands can be far more dangerous (where dangerous means an alternative way of thinking.) Alternative thinking has a way of cutting into established profits.

 

[KSP]

HRC said it short and sweet at the previous UN meeting. Calderon approached Clinton about the legalization of mj. His appeal was logical, there's no practical solution other than legalization.

Clinton's response?

'Yeah, but there's so much money in it.'

It's not the dangers of weed. Money in the wrong hands can be far more dangerous (where dangerous means an alternative way of thinking.) Alternative thinking has a way of cutting into established profits.

This was Clinton's rationale for continuing the drug war? Christ on a raft.


edit: looked it up for myself

“There is just too much money in it,” Clinton said. “You can legalize small amounts for possession, but those who are making so much money selling, they have to be stopped. They can’t be given an even easier road to take, because they will then find it in their interest to addict even more young people.”

p.s. I really hate these people

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

IMO, it was her rational for not turning weed loose. Here's one of the few examples I actually believe the market is a governing influence. When alcohol went from illegal to legal, the whole system was in place to intercept it and distribute it according to regulation.

Moonshiners are still hiding their favorite hobby from the law. Some make the finest quality yet they don't pay taxes. Others would pay 100% and kill ya with lead poison.

And alcohol was more widely accepted then than weed is today.

I'm not sure she's as much of a drug warrior as she's realistic of the outcome. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these politicians already know that legalization won't come in recognizable form. If that's the case, it's no wonder they're not shouting it form the rooftops.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

I'm not sure she's as much of a drug warrior as she's realistic of the outcome. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these politicians already know that legalization won't come in recognizable form. If that's the case, it's no wonder they're not shouting it form the rooftops.

Living in california where you can get a card and frequent thousands of dispensaries - i already see the regulation model working. Even if legalized im sure there will be lots of people who will still grow and sell without permits + liscensing, but the majority of people would rather goto pot shops....

 

[3dDream]

I predict some condescension.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Living in california where you can get a card and frequent thousands of dispensaries - i already see the regulation model working. Even if legalized im sure there will be lots of people who will still grow and sell without permits + liscensing, but the majority of people would rather goto pot shops....

You could be right, H3rB. I sure hope so anyway. I just wonder if non mmj states will opt for controlled distribution rather than the freedom to grow ourselves. I'm getting too far out on the limb so I'll crawl back a little.

 

[StoicStoner]

Hi everyone, I just signed up to this site, though I'm a VERY old lurker here (I was a lurker at Overgrow, if that tells you anything).

I feel really compelled to post in this thread. It's the main reason I signed up. Big things are happening. Cannabis is huge in the media... it's even getting it's own reality TV show (Weed Wars, Discovery Channel) and big things are on the table politically.

I want to urge EVERYONE... fellow posters in this thread and the countless lurkers (yes, YOU) who will read this... share this information and get others on board.

To get anything changed it's going to take all of us working together . We need more signatures for this. We need our president to know that we, the people, care about the legal status of our beloved cannabis.


Here's what you can do:
*SIGN THE PETITION. This is the most important thing you can do. Please do this, don't be lazy. This could effect the rest of your life, not to even mention the lives of thousands of others who have been persecuted for their love of cannabis.

The Link Again: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/legalize-and-regulate-marijuana-manner-similar-alcohol/y8l45gb1 <---- Copy/Paste this from your address bar into a document somewhere for easy access, you'll need it to do the rest.

*Tell your friends about this petition when you see them. Explain to them how they can sign it and help them out. Only sweat, blood, and tears will nourish the tree of liberty.

*Hit the social networks. Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, Google+... whatever social networks you belong to. Share the link to this petition. Urge them to sign it!

*Post the information regarding this petition at other forums. Many of us belong to multiple forums. Post this everywhere! Hell... sign up for new forums if you have to. Imagine if 1000 people see a thread on one forum, and only 10% sign it that's 100 signatures that bloomed from the efforts of one person. Now multiply this by several forums... you get the picture.

*Keep these thread alive. Keep the discussion moving. Bumping for it's own sake is generally frowned upon in most places, but by all mean KEEP THE DISCUSSION MOVING. It's important that these threads are seen by a lot of people.

Thanks ,
StoicStoner

 

[elwaponino]

The petition is Bullshit, they did this before and ignored the marijuana legalization, Obama already made his stance on marijuana, through action of doing nothing. If you want Real change the only answer is Ron Paul, not mediocrity.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I say to all of you, Shame on you.

Now if Ron Paul was doing this, even though he wouldn't need to be influenced to take action, this would be serious, but it's a joke, just like all of you thinking there's a difference between Obama and Bush, Democrats and Republicans, or hell the media telling you Ron Paul can't win. Bullshit, and I and others will prove him right. Go ahead and stay on the sidelines for this R3volution, ignorants need help too huh.

 

[OLDproLg]

HUH?

it cant hurt to try an help,but if we do get millions of sig's
i dont think they could hide the issue any longer!!!!!

WE the PEOPLE have seen enough bullshit already to trust?
ONLY action will speak!!!.......hopefully.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

The petition is Bullshit, they did this before and ignored the marijuana legalization, Obama already made his stance on marijuana, through action of doing nothing. If you want Real change the only answer is Ron Paul, not mediocrity.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I say to all of you, Shame on you.

Now if Ron Paul was doing this, even though he wouldn't need to be influenced to take action, this would be serious, but it's a joke, just like all of you thinking there's a difference between Obama and Bush, Democrats and Republicans, or hell the media telling you Ron Paul can't win. Bullshit, and I and others will prove him right. Go ahead and stay on the sidelines for this R3volution, ignorants need help too huh.

Even if RP were elected prez, he can't govern by decree. Executive order has a limit and consequences in some cases. Problem with executive order is that successor(s) could unilaterally reverse course.

Some say the AG has unilateral authority to legalize but that's the same deal. If they're correct, the next guy could do whatever he wants.

IMO, Ron Paul would have to lead Congress into reform or legalization. But Ron wants to wax the DEA entirely and make all drugs legal. If that were the only (what many consider) weird policy idea... he might have a snowball's chance in a pizza oven.

I admire your passion but speaking of ignorance, you couldn't get more polarized government. You'd have to be asleep to suggest there's no difference in the two parties. The presidency doesn't get dragged from the far right to the far left because of Congress. House rolls every two years, the presidency every 4 years and the senate every six. That's only part of the separation of powers structure. As soon as a prez gets lucky with two years of party control, there's still the minority opposition that stalls maneuvers. Remember the tax cuts? W had to make them temporary and run em through the reconciliation process because he couldn't get the necessary 60 senate votes for permanence.