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Brain Tumour and possible Medical strains - Help needed

devilgoob

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yes, the surgery triggers metastasis. and yes, I know exactly what a gamma knife is.....it only breaks up the DNA it's pointed at.

The tumors in little balls is true. But metastasis means stasis of the tumor, which means to maintain whatever it does, it does it's function through spreading and it's a meta form of keeping it's own process going.

As pertaining to long and short-chain. The long chains are better and marijuana has MORE and different ones. Lycopene is crappy because it's in low concentration and it's only one single anti-oxidative agent.

You don't take vitamin B for depression, it's a whole syndrome. In this case I am talking about how lycopene is only one of them and it's not as great as people think.

Anti-oxidants of one kind, lycopene and others are highly ineffectve and should be considered super-fooding. Super-food are bad, you depend on them and don't get variety.


I am saying long-chains and different type of anti-oxidants are key.

Also marijuana by weight has more extract content, so it's much better in the amount and spread of function of the anti-oxidants.

You are also right, cannabis doesn't have all of the terpenoids, but it has a big family of them that are powerful and have high(er)-chain length.

After reading this please disagree or something.

I have the feeling we're talking about the same thing. I am pretty good at knowing different techniques for surgery and the gamma knife which is an invasive surgery, which is why we wanted an extract that stops the processes.

Even in addition the their anti-oxidant effects, they also usually increase programmed-cell death, where different "cancerous (neoplasmic)" cells are distinguished and their lysosomes lyse.

Zymos my mom had surgery, but of course through cannabis and this website I have learned more than any doctor could really tell us.

And I dont mean the balling of tumors is good. I mean when it's at it's first stages and forms something, maybe only one tumor.

I really dont like to think of a ball of tumor dissolving because the ball to maintain it's power supply, always breaks up.

and not to crap on lycopene, but like you said yourself, the cannabinoids here in fact are only part of the equation and lycopene is a very small, small part.

So in addition to saying lycopene can fight cancer, I know an apple will do the same and all other things. I am in fact hating on the super-food ONE anti-oxidant people.

So what if my information is jumbled, I actually can use it and have it and CHOOSE not to conform to paragraphs because I believe those are limits.

I could be a really prolific writer, with all the pauses and cues needed to get an audience pumped. With a full paragraph stating my ideas VS people reading my individual facts and processing them on their own.
 

zymos

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But metastasis means stasis of the tumor, which means to maintain whatever it does, it does it's function through spreading and it's a meta form of keeping it's own process going.

not really: "The word metastasis means "displacement" in Greek, from μετά, meta, "next", and στάσις, stasis, "placement". "





I have the feeling we're talking about the same thing. I am pretty good at knowing different techniques for surgery and the gamma knife which is an invasive surgery, which is why we wanted an extract that stops the processes.

The gamma knife is NOT surgery and it is not "invasive" the way the term is used in medicine



So in addition to saying lycopene can fight cancer, I know an apple will do the same and all other things. I am in fact hating on the super-food ONE anti-oxidant people.

Yet that is exactly what you are doing- can't you even see that?
Lycopene is but one of many nutrients with proven health benefits- I just pulled it up on PubMed and got close to 3000 articles (though admittedly not all of those are about cancer or even health), yet you seem to be insisting that cannabis is the ONE, and other things are "crappy" and "highly ineffective"

Sorry- I call BS on that.

Cannabis is a wonderful medicine for very many illnesses, no doubt. But there is little to no evidence of anticancer effects when taken orally (And I don't mean a small handful of often repeated anecdotes from the Rick Simpson crowd).
 

devilgoob

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What kind of tumour is it?

Is it encapsulated?

Is this person feeling fatigued, if so is it their brain being pressed on more, or is it the tumours process and the hormones? I assume it's the tumour pressing.

When my mom had one, she had a grand-mal and I went to put her in a good position. The back her tongue would be falling backward, causing labored breathing. One her stomach she would also lose respiratory powers, so I threw her into the position one her side with her heart not being on the side she had lied on..

Basically I was looking at my mom, she has her eyes open and she was gone - internally fighting her seizure and experiencing it.

I could tell right away everything for some reason, I came home to clean my room.

I DIDNT EVEN CRY when she was in surgery, because something was pulling me through. not god, the dude. but a divine source I would attribute to it.
 
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Kalbhairav

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What kind of tumour is it?

Is it encapsulated?

Is this person feeling fatigued, if so is it their brain being pressed on more, or is it the tumours process and the hormones? I assume it's the tumour pressing.

When my mom had one, she had a grand-mal and I went to put her in a good position. The back her tongue would be falling backward, causing labored breathing. One her stomach she would also lose respiratory powers, so I threw her into the position one her side with her heart not being on the side she had lied on..

Basically I was looking at my mom, she has her eyes open and she was gone - internally fighting her seizure and experiencing it.

I could tell right away everything for some reason, I came home to clean my room.

I DIDNT EVEN CRY when she was in surgery, because something was pulling me through. not god, the dude. but a divine source I would attribute to it.

Hi,

The type of tumour is called an 'Astrositoma' (don't know if that is spelt right).

And yes, it is pressing on his brain..

Lets keep this civil guys. No need to churn up each others feelings an all...
 

zymos

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Sorry- don't mean to turn your thread into a pissing contest.

There are actually many types of astrocytomas- some are benign, some malignant, -that plus the specific location determines the possible treatments and prognosis.
 

devilgoob

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well, kalbhairav.

I am only an individual, with illusionary contiguous thoughts that for some reason form other thoughts.

Can you blame me for acting like I would know something based off a proven thought-process which is called "I am goob, anybody who I've ever spoke to if they were right I would yield to them."

Since I agree on not churning up feelings, which is the reptilian going off.

I would like to say, I began with a thought process and only thinking was involved.

I had a reason to say lycopene crappy. I had a reason behind cannabis extract holding in weight and function the best medicine in this modern-day of, red dye 40 and hydrogenated-fat.

I am mad at the world for not using reason.

Lycopene is not a miracle. The tomato is.

THC is not a miracle. The extract definately is.


I am sorry, but because this is a tumour of course they're going to have to do something more physical than chemical.

A medication that kills good and bad cells is bad. It makes your immune system continually be able to make the decision "I will let this cell live, given it's mutation." The mutations occur, but we never have the evidence because it's usually inactive."

Proteins fold. Cannabis stops bad ones from folding in alzeihmer's. It increases your own cell's discrimination of itself based on that when it finds itself deficient, it propogates. So cells function until they have to many errors, then because the hydrostatic conditions around the cell change and inside, the proper cells are not made in relation the cells they came from.

Cancer is a bunch of DNA that doesn't perform the function in where it's placed, and multiplies, because in fact other cells around it are contiguous and it's a different set.

It's all auto-immunity and cannabis triggers a good, good type of auto-immunity called apoptsis. "Hey myself (me being the cell) hey let's kill ourselves by lysing because we're different and part of a multi-cellular organism for the greater good of the unit itself."

This exactly how it works.

And now I begin with a pencil and paper on your case kalbhairav.

EDIT: This is going to take me a few hours tonight to come up with ideas and a little bit tomorrow. Then I will spend the rest of tomorrow building evidence, I will be capable of recommending a strain based on it's profile of cannabinoids and other constituents.
 
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devilgoob

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Ok.

I have done some research from doctors.

These doctors do advocate cannabis, but their tests are above stoner-level, and they are real doctors doing real testing.

They had tested pakistani and afghani strains as having high THCV and CBDV. I also had done research on the color and you need purple or red colored plants.

I don't know exactly what happens to THCV and CBDV in the liver, when ingested, but I am sure all the other cannabinoids get upconverted or something also. So your body could be turning any one of these into cancer-fighters.

I assume deep chunk and a hindu kush, something with color would be better.

I refuse to put up any evidence, but will produce it for you if ya, PM me khalbhairav
 

rake

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http://cannabiscommittee.com/blogs/?p=36

this link will lead you to other info concerning Dr William Courtney and leaf juice. leaf juice is the SHIT bro. my friend's little girl had a very rare virulent brain tumor (ATRT), almost always fatal. the hospital, after much radiation and chemo (nine months in the hospital), sent her home on hospice, saying she has two months to live.

the sisters here started giving her leaf juice every day. that was over a year ago and the girl is now happy and healthy and THRIVING. the tumors have shrunk to almost nothing and the doctors said she probably won't see a return of ATRT. this was not done under Dr Courtney's care and no special high-CBD strains were needed. i witnessed all this with my own eyes, and i thank Shiva every day for this miracle plant. we thought we had lost her for sure. i urge you to check it out.

juice, brother, juice! blessings.
 

mpd

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I was reading God last night and it is still buzzing around in my head doing some good work on my headache, so I thought I would put some inspirational thoughts together for your friend to consider.

All that information on CBDs is pure goodness and may be able to help as it is NEVER too late to turn the ship around when we are talking about cancer.

You may also remind your friend that We Are One and he may experience the great oneness and commune with God at any time of his convenience. Disease is just that -dis - ease and he can change from being dis-eased to eased at any time he chooses. All that comes forth is but for the glorification of God and we are all part of God so everything we do must be a glorification of Self.

Namaste.

Numorea.

Peace.
 
i don't think it matters what strain as long as you are getting cbd and thc. to ensure medicinal dose, the skunk pharm, graywolf is founding member, extracts hash oil and makes concoctions specific to the patient.

please do contact him or me to get additional information.
 
I would look into a ketogenic diet together with cannabis...do a little research on it, you'll see the results are real...a true ketogenic diet with mct oil and 80% or more of calories from fat, and less then 10grams of carbohydrates.

This has been shown to work, they think because your brain will switch to using ketones instead of glucose for fuel, and cancer needs to feed on glucose to grow. And canabinoids have been hypothesized to work better on the brain when in ketosis such as when you are fasting.
 
I would look into a ketogenic diet together with cannabis...do a little research on it, you'll see the results are real...a true ketogenic diet with mct oil and 80% or more of calories from fat, and less then 10grams of carbohydrates.

This has been shown to work, they think because your brain will switch to using ketones instead of glucose for fuel, and cancer needs to feed on glucose to grow. And canabinoids have been hypothesized to work better on the brain when in ketosis such as when you are fasting.

very interesting. i use raw organic unrefined coconut oil in my alxheimers mothers diet because of the brains loss of ability to produce the glucose needed for synopses to occur.

also very large doses of cannabis (2 grams hash oil per day).
 

abee

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http://cannabiscommittee.com/blogs/?p=36

this link will lead you to other info concerning Dr William Courtney and leaf juice. leaf juice is the SHIT bro. my friend's little girl had a very rare virulent brain tumor (ATRT), almost always fatal. the hospital, after much radiation and chemo (nine months in the hospital), sent her home on hospice, saying she has two months to live.

the sisters here started giving her leaf juice every day. that was over a year ago and the girl is now happy and healthy and THRIVING. the tumors have shrunk to almost nothing and the doctors said she probably won't see a return of ATRT. this was not done under Dr Courtney's care and no special high-CBD strains were needed. i witnessed all this with my own eyes, and i thank Shiva every day for this miracle plant. we thought we had lost her for sure. i urge you to check it out.

juice, brother, juice! blessings.
Rake - I'm new here and see you haven't been on for a long time, but my nephew was just diagnosed with ATRT (4 months old) and I'm looking for ANYONE who has tried cannabis-based approaches for this rare type of tumor. Do you think there is any way I might be able to get in touch with your friend? I can't figure out how to post to you directly, so hoping this somehow reaches you.

With gratitude,
 

Kalbhairav

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Hi abee,

This thread is pretty old but I'm sure you can get some good info in the medical forum.. Just keep asking and someone with a lot more knowledge than me will probably help you. You could always start a thread of your own!! There's a little blue button at the top left that helpfully says 'new thread' (in the main medical page, not this thread).. You could ask the community directly what it is that you need to know..

By the way, unfortunately ICmag doesn't allow private messages until you've reached 50 posts so your best bet might be to start your own thread.

Just to add..

My friend is still alive and well. He is on a small amount of steroids, a good alkaline diet and Chinese medicine. The doctors can't believe he's still with us. The tumour hasn't shrunk but hasn't grown either.. CBD treatment is still out of reach for him but we're still looking into it..

Thanks to all who contributed here..

:)
 

abee

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Kalbhairav, thanks for your message and good advice.

One thought for your friend (and I haven't read the full thread, so please forgive me if I'm repeating): I don't know exactly why CBD treatment is "out of reach" but if the concerns are surrounding legal issues or obtaining raw material for juicing, another option might be CBD-only hemp oil made from stems/stalks that contains no THC and is perfectly legal. http://dixiebotanicals.com/ is one place to buy. Many cancer researchers do highlight the benefit of both THC/THCA (non-psychoactive "raw" form) and CBD, but it may be worth trying a CBD only formula if the other options aren't possible for your friend?

Just a thought.

Best
 

Kalbhairav

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Wow!

Thanks abee.. I'll look into the link you provided and see if they'll send to where I am.

Thanks again, a great piece of info..

:)
 

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