FBI spy device

[40AmpstoFreedom]

I am done with phones again. I chucked my iphone in a 5 gallon bucket of water. Got it for a few months just for the experience and education, but honestly screw technology when in this profession. Phones are nice, but not that nice. With all the ways to ping phones now it doesn't matter if you talk over it or don't, knowing where you are going is just as good for rackin you up on some charges....

I bet this thing not only pings phones but allows them to search and listen to it digitally as well. If it doesn't there is something that does...

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/09/23/keeping-stingrays-secret-makes-case-tougher-for-prosecutors/

Keeping ‘Stingrays’ Secret Makes Case Tougher for Prosecutors

By Jennifer Valentino-DeVries

The Federal Bureau of Investigation’s desire to keep cellphone-tracking devices known as “stingrays” under wraps could make things more difficult for the government as it tries to prosecute the case of a man who was tracked by the feds using one of the devices, the judge in the case said.

U.S. District Judge David G. Campbell told an Arizona courtroom Thursday that he was not inclined to let the government present factual evidence regarding the stingray in a closed session without the defendant present.

U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
A Harris StingRay II, one of several devices dubbed ‘stingrays.’

“That seems to me to be improper,” Judge Campbell said. “These facts have to be found in a hearing where both sides participate.”

The defendant in the case, Daniel David Rigmaiden, is facing fraud charges and is arguing that he should have further evidence on the technology the feds used to locate him, in order to argue for his defense. Mr. Rigmaiden maintains his innocence and says the methods used to locate him amounted to an unreasonable search and seizure. The case was the subject of a Wall Street Journal article Thursday.

The government does not want to disclose more information about the stingray gear saying that it is “law enforcement sensitive” and that revealing information about it would allow criminals to evade it. The prosecution has been asking for a chance to give Judge Campbell information about the device that it says would rebut some of the claims Mr. Rigmaiden is making.

Although the judge appeared to reject that idea, he did say he would be willing to hold a closed hearing to allow the government to explain why the information is so sensitive that it needs to be withheld.

After that hearing, he said, if he concludes any information would be “relevant and helpful” to the defendant, it would still have to be disclosed. But the government could keep secret anything that he decides would not meet that standard, he said.

He then explained that the prosecution could face problems down the line if it withholds evidence on the technology and the defendant then produces expert witnesses who say the devices do certain things.

“The government could not respond … because you’ve withheld this information,” he said. “Therefore by a preponderance of the evidence, he’s shown that’s what this kind of device does.”

There are other big issues that need to be settled as the case moves through Judge Campbell’s courtroom – such as whether the government had a valid search warrant.

But for now, the prosecution and the FBI face some big decisions about how much information they’d be willing to give up. “I would love to be able to disclose everything and proceed,” the prosecutor, Frederick A. Battista, told the judge. Mr. Battista said he would need to talk with the FBI and the Department of Justice before determining what he can do.

There is a lot more info in the whole article...they have many different devices. I found the best way to research and scare the shit out of your self (or make you smarter) is to read security agencies like Northrop and Grummans etc who build technology for the government prospectus....

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

They wont tell him because they are tracking people illegally and know itll back fire in there face.... this is just the start of big brother... good luck for the future generations...


then they say we cant tell him cause then people will know and avoid being caught this way... so basically they wont let him fight his case... you are suppose to be able to defend yourself... how the hell do you defend yourself when they only tell the judge and not the fucking defense attorney??? wtf....

 

[fukndenny]

Look at that fukin thing

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

In northrop and grummans prospectus for a few years ago one of the technologies they were working on was something that could simultaneously record all mobile phone conversations going through satellites and pick and record conversations based on words said. For instance "ter-or-st" or "-omb"...Fill in the blank for what those words are.

I thought to my self it was crazy but then realized that we put all of that shit in the space and the Government has to authorize it all...So why not?

Pretty wild huh?

 

[loyalty7]

Just like a couple years back they tapped a mob guys phone, so even if he wasnt talking on it, they could hear his conversations, getting worst and worst...what's the constitution...

 

[BattleAxe]

Enter the post 9/11 world where our government employs fear mongering to usher in policies that continue to erode our constitutional rights.

I fear that this is only the beginning.

 

[Captain Ginyu]

Don't take that phone with you if you are going somewhere you don't want others to know! Been doing it for years.

 

[rives]

A couple of days ago I read about where the government had monitored the cell towers near where an anticipated labor dispute was to take place, and got the information on everyone who was simply in proximity to the location. Scary shit.

 

[SunshineDreams]

I'm going to keep all of this in mind. This shit is scary.

 

[Rednick]

Well, when you steal from the IRS what do you think will happen?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/fake-tax-returns/


P.S. Selling Tin-hats dirtcheap, American made, high-quality Tin. Mulitlayered, with mouthgaurd, so you don't have to dislodge your teeth either.

 

[SupaDupaDupa]

These agencies just keeps chipping away at the 4th amendment, erosion going going gone.

 

[txskunk]

Help make a change ... which is what was promised by this administration. For more information in video click here . Remember to employ as much anonymity as possible.

 

[Red Fang]

when I first clicked on this, I was redirected to youtube. why is that?

 

[Strainhunter]

Cell phone + Stingray!?

The FBI HAS TO keep it a secret how to attach a Stingray to a Cellphone.

 

[txskunk]

when I first clicked on this, I was redirected to youtube. why is that?

I can only guess that a certain youtube video I posted to this thread was automatically redirecting visitors to youtube. If you notice from other threads it appears that youtube embeded posts appear in here and you can view the video from within ICMAG. That was not the case with the video I attempted to post and I apologize for that. I edited the post as soon as I discovered the issue to link to the page so that visitors have a choice to view the video or not. Again I apologize for this but it seems youtube has worked some sort of a deal that these embed codes are redirected or something? I'm not exactly sure, either way any future visitors should be safe. Again I apologize and was only trying to encourage and benefit the community to petition the US to legalize this industry.

 

[Strainhunter]

......

....... it seems youtube has worked some sort of a deal that these embed codes are redirected or something?

.....

No, you just posted it the wrong way.

oldpink wrote fairly clear instructions on how to do it:

Youtube video embedding enabled

 

[Warped1]

You'd better be careful StrainHunter,, those things are probably circling your island at this very minute

 

[LiLWaynE]

trust me, if MAN has the ability to even create a way to talk via cell phones, then man has a way to tap into a cell phone.......................to think you are safe AND SECURE is very laughable

there have been NUMEROUS times where i had felt as if my phone was tapped and people just chalked me off as being crazy and paranoid when i brought it to their attention.....


who's the crazy and paranoid one now MOTHER FUCKERS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[stillsmokin843]

hey have you guys ever had your cell phone echo you own voice back to you hang up call again and it works fine

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^i hear echoes alot on metro PCS and i did read that if your phone is being tapped you sometimes hear echoes....but i know "clean" people also reporting the same thing..


fuck phones...i try to emphasize to everyone not to use them but people out here are so casual about shit they have no problem talking shop over the line.