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Child rapist to get less time than pot grower

Child rapist to get less time than pot grower - Incarcerated weed offenders to skyrocket

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is getting tougher on pot growers than he is on rapists of children. Under the Tories' omnibus crime legislation tabled Tuesday, a person growing 201 pot plants in a rental unit would receive a longer mandatory sentence than someone who rapes a toddler or forces a five-year-old to have sex with an animal.


Producing six to 200 pot plants nets an automatic six-month sentence, with an extra three months if it's done in a rental or is deemed a public-safety hazard. Growing 201 to 500 plants brings a one-year sentence, or 1½ years if it's in a rental or poses a safety risk.
The omnibus legislation imposes one-year mandatory minimums for sexually assaulting a child, luring a child via the Internet or involving a child in bestiality. All three of these offences carry lighter automatic sentences than those for people running medium-sized grow-ops in rental property or on someone else's land.


A pedophile who gets a child to watch pornography with him, or a pervert exposing himself to kids at a playground, would receive a minimum 90-day sentence, half the term of a man convicted of growing six pot plants in his own home.


The maximum sentence for growing marijuana would double from seven to 14 years, the same maximum applied to someone using a weapon during a child rape, and four years more than for someone sexually assaulting a kid without using a weapon.


Here in B.C., if police and prosecutors don't rebel against the new laws, we're going to be hit with massive jail costs, says Simon Fraser University criminologist Neil Boyd. The new marijuana legislation will increase the proportion of pot criminals in B.C. jails from less than five per cent to around 30 per cent, at a cost of $60,000 to $70,000 per inmate annually, Boyd says.


"Why put people who are not violent in jail?" Boyd asks. "People who commit serious violent crime are already dealt with pretty harshly, and crime rates are down, not up."


Harper's U.S.-style war on drugs ignores our southern neighbour's expensive failed effort. "Eight states — including New York, where laws were the most punitive in the nation — have repealed most of these mandatory-minimum sentences, and dozens of other jurisdictions are considering repeal or reform," a February report from Human Rights Watch says.


Even the government's own Justice Department questions the use of mandatory minimums. "There is some indication that minimum sentences are not an effective sentencing tool," reads a 2010 report from the department. "They constrain judicial discretion without offering any increased crime-prevention benefits."


Provincial jails — where most people convicted under the new laws will end up — provide far fewer rehabilitation programs than federal prisons, leading to higher rates of re-offending, says Stacey Hannem, chairman of the policy review committee at the Canadian Criminal Justice Association.


"There's a real revolving-door problem in our provincial institutions," Hannem says. "If you're going to throw even more people in there, you can bet that the recidivism rate in the provincial system is likely to go up.


"If you want to get tough on crime, that's fine. But don't sell it as increasing public safety. That's just not true."


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PoopyTeaBags

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it always baffles me how it cost 70k a year per inmate to live on barely nothing but on the streets they survive on under 20k
 
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draco

i would like to hear why pot is such a threat to society. just curious...
 

chongsbuddy

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where is this "manditory" 6 months for 5 plants opr more?this is now?so if i got caught with 205 plants today i would get 1 year for sure?i thought it was all up in the air right now.
 

odkin

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This is still not law- but is the major thrust of the conservative bills that will be pushed through as soon as parliment sits again. Still doesn't mean that it will become law immediately- but should it pass, it will become law soon enough.

My question- which I know cannot be answered at this early stage- is whether the Conservs will be using a carrot and stick approach- would the law look away those who grow under 6 plants, seeing as they are so intent on punishing those who grow 6 or more?
 

hempluvr

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Fucking ridiculous! ALL sexual predators,pedophiles,rapists(of women or children)need to be made impotent and given nothing less than 10yrs. No p.c(protective custody)for these fucks either. Put them right into general population with the rest of the inmates. Its not like the people they offended had protection! Fuck'em ALL!
 

pearlemae

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Mandatory sentencing helps the prisons for profit with a steady supply of slave labor. I thought I read that Canada was starting to go for privatizing prisons like here in the lower 48. Hey Canada check out Americas prisons for profit. It'll open your eyes the only problem here is the private prison industry is a huge lobbying force, and with all the pols getting the big bucks from them the whole system, will never be changed until we the people get tired of it.
Canadians Google Correction Corp of America to see what's coming your way and also do the American Legislative economic council. D they have a Canadian counterpart.
 

Manstien

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Just do 8 x 1000watts 25 plants per....Jk

Good luck everyone this has been coming for awhile......strap on those balls of steel!!!!!!!! ******* STYLE WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo
 

jarff

Member
where is this "manditory" 6 months for 5 plants opr more?this is now?so if i got caught with 205 plants today i would get 1 year for sure?i thought it was all up in the air right now.

It,s not law yet Chong..You,ve been told a dozen times already.
You are lucky you got busted before the law passed.
Chill man......They cannot change your charge even if the new law passed the day after you got pinched

jarff.
 

Weird

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seriously!?!?!?!

everyone i mean EVERYONE knows smoking pot is far worse than baby rape and forcing toddlers into bestiality so how can we not make it more severe to really put the right message out there

dont cut into the business of big corporate America (tobacco booze or pharma) but your kids, well let them get raped and tortured, it will make them more likely to be customers of those big corps when they grow up warped and twisted

welcome to the party
 
it always baffles me how it cost 70k a year per inmate to live on barely nothing but on the streets they survive on under 20k

That's because there's some folks out there who are actually making big money to have more & more people incarcerated; all this at the expense of you, me, & Mr. John Q. Taxpayer!
 

PoopyTeaBags

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lol i know that bro i meant i dont know how we let it happen.... this is what i put on the last thread where you guys are upping all your mandatory minimums for drugs and cultivation...


welcome to privatized prison industrial complex canada.... whooohoo now you guys get to enjoy all of the us's failed drug policies as your own!!!!!!

congrats i think a beer is in order for you fella's
 

F. Dupp

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Why not just go all the way with it and castrate these bastards the first time they get caught? They are just going to re-offend when they are released from prison.

The pot growers I mean. Who gives 2 shits about child molesters.
 

LiLWaynE

I Feel Good
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thats weird, i was looking through the posts and i see "child rapist to get less time than pot grower"...... and i think "thats fucked up"......and then see the last poster is "F. Dupp"..... god damn is that crazy :biglaugh:
 

Useful Idiot

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Since when did growing herbs become a crime??? Shit...I guess I have been out of touch for a looooong time.I am not sure where I am goin with this....OH! I got it,ready??? Big pharm companies do not lose profit off of children being molested,raped whatever. BUT they do lose much $$$ on folks who can grow an herb and medicate themselves!! Medication that WORKS I might add. Terrible comparison I know, but in my defense Killer Queen seems to cloud my mind a bit. You all know what my point is. Pockets folks,pockets are constantly being lined for the agenda.Be safe friends.:thank you: Damn I'm hi
 

mithra

Member
Mandatory sentencing helps the prisons for profit with a steady supply of slave labor. I thought I read that Canada was starting to go for privatizing prisons like here in the lower 48. Hey Canada check out Americas prisons for profit. It'll open your eyes the only problem here is the private prison industry is a huge lobbying force, and with all the pols getting the big bucks from them the whole system, will never be changed until we the people get tired of it.
Canadians Google Correction Corp of America to see what's coming your way and also do the American Legislative economic council. D they have a Canadian counterpart.

Yikes I did read their home page. And noticed that rehabilitation was almost at the bottom of their list of intents.
I'm sure we will be heading in the same direction here in Canada. I just joined the NDP party, as a revolt against the Neo Cons. All parties are corrupt, some just not as dangerous as others.:tiphat:
 

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