MY FAVORITE NUTRIENT...BIG SWELL

[loyalty7]

I would hardly say 2-5-3 is perfect for mj. Plus it lacks all kinds of essential stuff like micros and is way, way low on Mg, Ca and contains no S.

On top of that look at the derived from section:

the amino acids are a single source L-Glycine....not terribly bad provided there is enough

some sugar...feeds microbes, not the plant

some molasses...the sugar in it feeds the microbes, it also provides a little bit of K, Ca, Mg, Fe and Na

Phosphoric acid to provide P...but then a strong base KOH to offset the acid...all to provide P and K...not exactly the easiest way to do it.

and Yucca, a pretty good organic wetting agent.

Not a complete formula by any means. By a little MKP and Albion's Metalosate K and save yourself a bunch of money

It's not a base it's an additive, meaning all your cal, mag, and s will be in your base nutrients, and the npk is perfect for coco, being that many bloom boosters in the market have a high pottasium range...

 

[dizzlekush]

the amino acids are a single source L-Glycine....not terribly bad provided there is enough

some sugar...feeds microbes, not the plant

some molasses...the sugar in it feeds the microbes, it also provides a little bit of K, Ca, Mg, Fe and Na

hey sam not to start a fight but theres no such thing as L-Glycine, just Glycine. and im pretty sure the jury's still out on whether or not certain more simple sugars can actually pass through the casparian strip and become metabolically active.

 

[dizzlekush]

and the npk is perfect for coco, being that many bloom boosters in the market have a high pottasium range...

thats purely an opinion. yes coco releases small amounts of potassium but flowering marijuana needs more potassium than any other single nutrient. a 2-5-3 ratio is pretty much a 2-2.5-2.5 when you take into account actual PK value instead of P2O5 and K2O. not even close to optimal for marijuana in any kind of medium. sorry bro.

 

[loyalty7]

absolutely right, MY opinion, and i've been growing in coco for a long time, and those who have, know how easy cal and mag can get locked out because of the amounts of pottasium in the coco, i've used all the mid bloom boosters out there with coco, from big bud,phat bloom,beastie blooms,hydroplex, to name a few...and none has done what bigswell has done. And that also is MY opinion...

 

[loyalty7]

Seems right for my meds...

 

[dizzlekush]

i used coco for over a year (literally JUST switched over to peat after a side by side grow of the 2) . never any cal mag issues, and i used TONS of potassium, always at least 3X as much as P. but i don't use bloom boosters so therein lies the difference. JR Peters and Dyna Gro all the way.

 

[loyalty7]

Theres the difference, i've grown in coco for over three years and switched to coco after a side by side with promix, if i was growing in peat, then i would use 3x as much k,(not p, as u stated)i can use maxibloom and get great results and spend little, or i can go the extra and get exceptional results...

 

[YosemiteSam]

hey sam not to start a fight but theres no such thing as L-Glycine, just Glycine. and im pretty sure the jury's still out on whether or not certain more simple sugars can actually pass through the casparian strip and become metabolically active.

Their label says L-glycine. L or D normally indicates which isomer it is...same molecule with different chiral centers.

The bigger question in this formula is if it is actually chelating anything. You cannot chelate N, P or K...so what exactly is it doing? Just chunking aminos in the res does not do a single thing for you other than feed the micros.

My opinion is that it is nothing more than a fairly inexpensive marketing tactic that has nothing to do with actual science. It is a shame that stoners tend to believe this shit...a fact, but a shame at the same time.

edit...apologies to dizzlekush on the tone of this. You could be right about both the L-Glycine (even if it is on the label) and the sugar. I was merely trying to point out how freakin flawed the product really is.

 

[YosemiteSam]

absolutely right, MY opinion, and i've been growing in coco for a long time, and those who have, know how easy cal and mag can get locked out because of the amounts of pottasium in the coco, i've used all the mid bloom boosters out there with coco, from big bud,phat bloom,beastie blooms,hydroplex, to name a few...and none has done what bigswell has done. And that also is MY opinion...

My opinion is very different than yours.

Tell me it is good for any plant to have over say 50 ppm P...I would say over 30 ppm P. Go above that and all you are doing is killing microbes...that your sugar is supposedly feeding. Think different...ask Florida what fucked up the Everglades. P from the vegetable fields washing into the swamp.

Secondly...at least in Black Gold Just Coir...a 3:2 K:N ratio kicks ass. Then again it could be that Roots Organic just has shitty, unwashed coco which would not only be high in K but also Na.

Would you put that past a company that released a bunch of stuff they knew had fungus gnats in it?

Oh wait...you probably are that company. Not that it matters one bit to you but I would never buy a Roots Organic product...fuck their misleading asses.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It's not a base it's an additive, meaning all your cal, mag, and s will be in your base nutrients, and the npk is perfect for coco, being that many bloom boosters in the market have a high pottasium range...

You are the one that claimed it was the perfect ratio for coco. If it is an additive like you now claim...how can you know what NPK it is being used at? That depends on what base nutes are being used.

This is the flaw of all "additives". What the fuck, if a company thinks something is essential (other than Si which it should not mix with base nutes) why the fuck don't they just include it in their flower or veg formula.

Cause they are fucking scum...that is why.

 

[loyalty7]

I don't use roots organics coco, i use botanicare, any coco pre flushed is the same, and i can care less about microbes, if i want a living soil(which i also run) i would make a super soil, And perfect for coco, yeah better then all other mid week bloom boosters. Your forgeting i run lucas,(read the whole thread) and me being roots organic...Ha.Look at my account been doing this long before roots organic got a jump in this game...From all the hate, without using the product, maybe your there competition, And as far as fungus gnats in there soil...ocean forest, botanicare, if you feed alot fungus gnats will be around..And it's buy, not by.

 

[benjaminzabler]

I have Big swell nutrient and i like this product. This product is give lots of energy and protein. I never face any side effect of this product and many body builder are using this product to get protein and nutrition. I am not take much more but i prefer to take some times. If you want to use it, you can consult with your trainer.

 

[Nifty_PoT]

^^LOL u drink this shit ?? just wow lol
"if you feed alot fungus gnats will be around.." that is certainly not true, but pretty funny none the less.

 

[clivewhites]

Food is very necessary for us. My favorite meals are most of made with milk and another good sweet food. I love to eat chocolate, ice-cream, pastry, many types of cake etc.

 

[SMOKE-ONE]

Some good info!!! might have to give bud swell a try.

 

[Gooey]

i will say this, all hydro companys are out to make money... nothing wrong with that in my opinion...if the stuff works better than any other simple lineup and produces better results im down. I will say i agree on the multiple bottles. Neptune of the gods has the most im other than maybe advancd. Pretty funny shit. Im currently doing a side by side with h@g vs the soul line minus the grow n. The roots rep is a cool dude in my state, gave me a sample pack and said it would be better flavor and yeild. So im trying it for free to see if thats true. I am open to trying other nutrients as well. I just dont want to play scientist and will pay a premium for a ready to use regimen that is consitent. Puff puff pass

 

[dimebag_]

Loyalty-

Hey brotha-you still rocking the big swell? thanks

dbag-

 

[shawkmon]

strong bump

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Bump again! anyone using this with their peak? they have chitosan extract in both big swell and peak which helps resin production. chitosan is what is in bud factor x also.