We hav a company here in mich that is claimin the same thing. Start to fini add water..I hav 1 dude tryin it in a side by side with AN..so far I must say producing a lovely healthy plant..nicer lookin all the way around..in veg...
Testing a new soil that guarantees start to finish results
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It looks like this is the new trend and I feel it is a great move for the industry. Less harmful byproducts sets well with me
i have yet to find a soil that gives optimum results with just water. they all seem to need a boost of something. i say go for it and post results. been making my own soil since cw and vics supersoil mix from bcga.
Ya I really dig the concept of the ACT bags included for the extra "boost"
C
CT Guy
You could include a small amount of mycorrhizal fungi in a separate bag for inoculation when planting. There's no point in putting it through the entire soil mix, it's just not cost-effective or efficient. Many companies that claim to have mycorrhizal spores in their soil mix only put enough on there to get it on the label, not enough to be effective for colonization.
I would recommend that silica be added to waterings, as it moves through the soil quite quickly, but contains many plant benefits. Seaweed is another good one as well.
I would recommend that silica be added to waterings, as it moves through the soil quite quickly, but contains many plant benefits. Seaweed is another good one as well.
I dont plan on adding anything except what is already in the soil and I am given. It has a lot of amendments, I posted them earlier
C
CT Guy
My comment was directed more to the manufacturer. I do think that small inputs when watering/foliar can help even the best soil to perform better. For testing purposes, you should stick with just water for sure.
You da' man
What do you mean? You saying this stuff is a good idea? Elaborate for me bud.
TACOE
Member
Just curious what the difference between this soil and all the other prefab water only mix is? I like to know quality and quantity of amendments in the mix. And perlite? What is this, the 90s? Lol. One of these designer mix makers should get into the DE. I know it's kinda expensive. But if bought in bulk, maybe not.
Not saying the dirt is no good, but seems like this is nothing new- bagged soil or bagged tea stuff
My recent thinking is that the grower has more to do with a nice plant than the soil (to an extent of course, but if the soil is half decent). It is the grower who can read the signs and deal with problems quickly and correctly that gets the results. IMO.
Not saying the dirt is no good, but seems like this is nothing new- bagged soil or bagged tea stuff
My recent thinking is that the grower has more to do with a nice plant than the soil (to an extent of course, but if the soil is half decent). It is the grower who can read the signs and deal with problems quickly and correctly that gets the results. IMO.
NSPB
Active member
I guess that is one reason why I stayed away from making a medium based project and designed my mix in a manner that allowed folks to continue using the exact same medium they are used to and prefer.
Personally, I'd not want to run a grow that didn't have good 'ole dirt in the medium. Recently made the full conversion after a bit of testing and now use only calcined DE as a 1 to 1 replacement of perlite in my base medium. And at about $8 per 50# bag, it makes it much more affordable than perlite. NAPA auto parts sells a suitable product as an oil absorber. There is a thread on it some where.
One of the beauties of any organically amended medium is the plants are going to pick and choose what food sources they want their food from. You can have a super rich medium without burning the plants if it is well designed.
In regards to the grower...well, I prefer to let mother nature dictate things. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The plant has a genetic predisposition to behave a certain way...we as growers can only provide a habitat in which to allow the plant to express itself. Given, a better habitat results in better growth. Two factors must be controlled: the environment surrounding the root zone and the environment surrounding the foliage. If you have made a properly amended "just add water" medium, then you are down to maintaining only one environment...kind of a plus regardless your skill level.
This is the beauty of it...it gives the grower time to focus on other aspects of the grow or gives those who lack the knowledge the ability to grow like a pro. Gotta love the simplicity of organics when done properly!
My biggest spark in knowledge recently is a better understanding of how a proper mineral regime can make for a more efficient uptake of the various fertilizing elements thus reducing the need to use them in higher quantities in the first place. That and a further understanding of the new frontier of "veganics". (thanks to DocLeaf and UncleFishSticks for the spark of interest)
TACOE - one of the biggest challenges I faced when putting together such a mix for my own use was finding sources for the BEST of the BEST ingredients wise. Such, alfalfa is alfalfa...that is like saying all cannabis is cannabis. It took me many years to develop relationships with like minded people in the industry. It was always easy to tell which company to use in the end...not only by the end results produced, but by the passion of the owner. It seems where there is great passion for a profession, regardless, then ones pride is caught up in their work...makes a difference.
Benny - Another aspect to consider when deciding to make a mix like this for the public to use...consistency. Finding companies that will be producing a reliable product in the future. It makes no sense to start such a project if at the end of the day you can not get the same exact kind of bone meal you used the first round of production....just things to think about. It really does take a very large amount of behind the scenes dedication to bring an idea to thousands of people. I know this first hand. Respect goes out to anyone who attempts it...
NSPB
Personally, I'd not want to run a grow that didn't have good 'ole dirt in the medium. Recently made the full conversion after a bit of testing and now use only calcined DE as a 1 to 1 replacement of perlite in my base medium. And at about $8 per 50# bag, it makes it much more affordable than perlite. NAPA auto parts sells a suitable product as an oil absorber. There is a thread on it some where.
One of the beauties of any organically amended medium is the plants are going to pick and choose what food sources they want their food from. You can have a super rich medium without burning the plants if it is well designed.
In regards to the grower...well, I prefer to let mother nature dictate things. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The plant has a genetic predisposition to behave a certain way...we as growers can only provide a habitat in which to allow the plant to express itself. Given, a better habitat results in better growth. Two factors must be controlled: the environment surrounding the root zone and the environment surrounding the foliage. If you have made a properly amended "just add water" medium, then you are down to maintaining only one environment...kind of a plus regardless your skill level.
This is the beauty of it...it gives the grower time to focus on other aspects of the grow or gives those who lack the knowledge the ability to grow like a pro. Gotta love the simplicity of organics when done properly!
My biggest spark in knowledge recently is a better understanding of how a proper mineral regime can make for a more efficient uptake of the various fertilizing elements thus reducing the need to use them in higher quantities in the first place. That and a further understanding of the new frontier of "veganics". (thanks to DocLeaf and UncleFishSticks for the spark of interest)
TACOE - one of the biggest challenges I faced when putting together such a mix for my own use was finding sources for the BEST of the BEST ingredients wise. Such, alfalfa is alfalfa...that is like saying all cannabis is cannabis. It took me many years to develop relationships with like minded people in the industry. It was always easy to tell which company to use in the end...not only by the end results produced, but by the passion of the owner. It seems where there is great passion for a profession, regardless, then ones pride is caught up in their work...makes a difference.
Benny - Another aspect to consider when deciding to make a mix like this for the public to use...consistency. Finding companies that will be producing a reliable product in the future. It makes no sense to start such a project if at the end of the day you can not get the same exact kind of bone meal you used the first round of production....just things to think about. It really does take a very large amount of behind the scenes dedication to bring an idea to thousands of people. I know this first hand. Respect goes out to anyone who attempts it...
NSPB
Well I got the soil today, it was in a plain unmarked brown paper bag. I put one of the boost packs in 5 gallons of water and now it is brewing with O2. Tomorrow I shall plant my clone with the soil and we shall see how this stuff performs.
