GDB
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It has nothing to do with being vegan, there is your reason!!
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Heart Attack Proof...
- Thread starter Aksala
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It has nothing to do with being vegan, there is your reason!!
I am on a heart survival diet, and it has been working for six years, but I have to take heart drugs to help. I dropped 55 pounds, walk at least a mile a day, and changed my whole diet, but I love most of my new foods. Gave up beef years ago because it turns me into a painful methane machine.
Every day I eat, cereal, peanut butter, fruit, cole slaw, and my own chili-gumbo which has, beans, rice, sweet potato, onions, peppers, garlic, tomatos and other good stuff, very tasty and healthy too. I just make up a slow cooker once a week. I use a little chicken and ham, but you can do it without meat if you want it that way. I need a little meat to stay healthy.
You don't have to go full vegan to improve, and in my case survive.
Every day I eat, cereal, peanut butter, fruit, cole slaw, and my own chili-gumbo which has, beans, rice, sweet potato, onions, peppers, garlic, tomatos and other good stuff, very tasty and healthy too. I just make up a slow cooker once a week. I use a little chicken and ham, but you can do it without meat if you want it that way. I need a little meat to stay healthy.
You don't have to go full vegan to improve, and in my case survive.
Munching down on whale fat, raw seal, and smelly(rotten) fish aren't my idea of a meal worth looking forward too. I'd rather grill a rare steak and die earlier than planned.
This is pretty much how I've been eating for years. I never ate steak or red meat in any kind of measurable quantity. I actually love beans, rice, fruit, vegetables etc....
My only weakness is that I like melted cheese, pizza, chocolate, and pastries(cheesecakes, cookies etc...). If I keep an eye on those things I'm good. Lately I've been eating too much of those. If I cut back I'll thin down and have more energy.
Best of Luck. Hopefully this will improve your quality of life.
For those that doubt there is plenty of protein in lentils, and it's much healthier than any kind of meat.
Yeah I've heard a bunch about this stuff lately, today on Yahoo - http://health.yahoo.net/caring/5-foods-that-can-trigger-a-stroke
I'm not saying I'm never going eat shitty food again, but I am 25 and definitely think I can eat/live healthier, not to mention lose some weight. It's all about the choices you make, do I get a burger and fries? Or a salad? I just don't want to end up in situation that I could have avoided just eating healthy etc. I am also off the booze as of recently, so hopefully good things will happen.
Glad to hear you and the mrs. are bettering yourselves, needs to happen more in this day and age
I'm not saying I'm never going eat shitty food again, but I am 25 and definitely think I can eat/live healthier, not to mention lose some weight. It's all about the choices you make, do I get a burger and fries? Or a salad? I just don't want to end up in situation that I could have avoided just eating healthy etc. I am also off the booze as of recently, so hopefully good things will happen.
Glad to hear you and the mrs. are bettering yourselves, needs to happen more in this day and age
hmm, 10 15 years back, my friend had heart troubles.
his doctor suggested hash (only indica around here then)
unbelievably! amazing doctor, we almost talking stoneage attitudes in general back then.
well, the doc said it strengthened the heart.
well, my friend hasnt had any problems since (daysmoker, 1-2g hash a day guy)
his doctor suggested hash (only indica around here then)
unbelievably! amazing doctor, we almost talking stoneage attitudes in general back then.
well, the doc said it strengthened the heart.
well, my friend hasnt had any problems since (daysmoker, 1-2g hash a day guy)
Aksala
Member
Stoned ape theory...I'm a huge fan of Rogan so I've heard all about that...makes alot more sense to me than the bible...
Aksala
Member
Life span is steadily increasing because of things like triple bypass surgery and stents...
Heart attacks and cancer are on the rise...ways to fight them off while you slowly die are also on the rise...
Its not about lifespan..its about life quality...and living after 5-6 heart attacks ect is not my idea of high quality life...
Almost eliminates the need for health care....in fact for me myself...i'll probably go with the cheapest possible health care that covers the really big stuff but you have to pay like 20k out of pocket ect...
As a shitty eater my whole life...I had no idea how much better I would feel eating like this...
And about protein and iron...studies have shown that you get WAY more out of plant protein than animal protein....so yes if you don't eat vegetables regularly then you probably would need alot of protein...but if all you eat are veg's....you get plenty of it...I've researched it..
Also...there's this stuff called nutritional yeast that is used as sort of a vegan cheese powder...its pretty good...
Anyhow its a complete protein...meaning it has all the essential amino acids your body needs...
You can get all of that stuff from beans and stuff but each one has different mixes...I think nutrional yeast is the only thing that has it all....and I use a bit of it everyday in whatever I make for dinner...
Anyhow...I highly recommend trying this diet for a 14 day period and if you don't feel amazing at the end of the 14 days then just go back to the way you used to eat...
If everyone ate like this...there would be no health care crisis in this country...its...amazing what it does to you after eating like shit your whole life.
Aksala
Member
That's awesome man...glad to hear your blood is back to normal.
ijim
Member
I love how these studies can ask dead people what they have eaten all of their lives. Or do they keep them in cages for decades giving them two donuts or a cheese burger every day. You can find an expert to state anything for a price. According to these experts the human race should have died out soon after it started. Anyway look at the world 50 years ago and look at it today. Is it worth hanging around to become a drone for a corporation and government.
growhi
Member
i point to the french paradox !!!!
a study witch showed a massive extreme differnece in heart attacks between british people and french people !!
both the same race !!
both with massivly high fat massivly unhealhty diets !! high smokeing rates ( the french smoke like troopers )
findings were way of life and wine basicly !!
stress will kill you quicker than any burger !!
and a few glass's of red a day will keep your heart pumpin nice !!
thats all i adire to plenty of sleep !! no stress !! and plenty of wine !!
after that its just genetics !! if your mam and dad lived till 100 chances are your gunna live long !!
and lets face it who wants to live till there 95 pissin them selfs waitin to die !!
a study witch showed a massive extreme differnece in heart attacks between british people and french people !!
both the same race !!
both with massivly high fat massivly unhealhty diets !! high smokeing rates ( the french smoke like troopers )
findings were way of life and wine basicly !!
stress will kill you quicker than any burger !!
and a few glass's of red a day will keep your heart pumpin nice !!
thats all i adire to plenty of sleep !! no stress !! and plenty of wine !!
after that its just genetics !! if your mam and dad lived till 100 chances are your gunna live long !!
and lets face it who wants to live till there 95 pissin them selfs waitin to die !!
AndreNicky
Member
Glad you have found something that seems to be working for you aksala. My biggest advice to at this point is to not become too dogmatic, at this point the LF diet seems like the holy grail to you but don't forget that you've made a lot more changes that have drastic effects on health than just going low fat.
I personally followed a strict low fat vegan diet for a little less than a year and it left me emaciated with tooth decay and deficient in vit A and zinc(probably other stuff as well). Pretty hard to believe considering i was eating 4k cals consistently and getting what I thought was more than enough vit A(what I didn't realize is beta carotene doesn't necessarily equal vit A). I've since regained my health following a basic high carb whole foods paleoesque style diet. Making sure to get animal based nutrients from foods like liver, butter, eggs and milk has been the best thing I've done in regards to my health and over all well being.
I've expiremented with a ton of protocols and I find the obes tgat work usually share some similarities mainly an emphasis on removing vegetable oils, trans fat, limiting polyunsaturated fats, ample exercise, good sleep and making sure to get adequate nutrition. The LF vegan diet falls short in nutrition imo but this can be solved with 1lb of liver a week for the most part.
Also before you go crazy pointing to random studies remeber this one important phrase "Correlation does NOT EQUAL CAUSATION". Studies(especially ones of epidemiological origin) can often be misinterpreted by even the best researchers and are often subject to heavy bias.
just my .02
I personally followed a strict low fat vegan diet for a little less than a year and it left me emaciated with tooth decay and deficient in vit A and zinc(probably other stuff as well). Pretty hard to believe considering i was eating 4k cals consistently and getting what I thought was more than enough vit A(what I didn't realize is beta carotene doesn't necessarily equal vit A). I've since regained my health following a basic high carb whole foods paleoesque style diet. Making sure to get animal based nutrients from foods like liver, butter, eggs and milk has been the best thing I've done in regards to my health and over all well being.
I've expiremented with a ton of protocols and I find the obes tgat work usually share some similarities mainly an emphasis on removing vegetable oils, trans fat, limiting polyunsaturated fats, ample exercise, good sleep and making sure to get adequate nutrition. The LF vegan diet falls short in nutrition imo but this can be solved with 1lb of liver a week for the most part.
Also before you go crazy pointing to random studies remeber this one important phrase "Correlation does NOT EQUAL CAUSATION". Studies(especially ones of epidemiological origin) can often be misinterpreted by even the best researchers and are often subject to heavy bias.
just my .02
rofl. over hundreds of thousands of years pre homosapien man hunted in nomadic groups. Over time they got better at it and were able to increase the protein in their diet. As the protein intake increased we were able to build more efficient and better working brains because protein is a huge part of your brain and brain function. It is extremely high in caloric energy as well. Those calories aka energy were the catalyst for brain development. These are well known anthropological, and biological facts proven with fossil records, and brain studies.
don't believe all the hype when it comes to fat.
the body needs high quality animal fats - the unhealthy shit are those artificial abominations that are used in that awful processed food we all eat. mmmmmh... hydrogenated fat... *barf*
the body needs high quality animal fats - the unhealthy shit are those artificial abominations that are used in that awful processed food we all eat. mmmmmh... hydrogenated fat... *barf*
AndreNicky
Member
This is a THEORY not a fact. You have it wrong though, they theorize that the long chain fats(mainly dha) were the catalyst in making us smarter, along with the increased caloric density of animal fats. They have a similar theory that cooked food such as tubers were the catalyst due to the increased caloric density and bio-availability of glucose(which is the brains main fuel source).
Maybe you should learn the difference between a theory and a fact. How would they even prove these as being factual without a doubt?
the fat and skin is almost the best part LOL
Hey guys!
Also check Vitamin C therapy.
Very interesting and medically proven.. to include cardiac conditions.
Ojo
Also check Vitamin C therapy.
Very interesting and medically proven.. to include cardiac conditions.
Ojo
High quality fresh butter has many health benefits.
Great for joint pain and overall inflammation.
Ojo
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ForbiddenFruit
I recommend a book called The China Study. Should help everyone interested in the healthy diet.
http://www.thechinastudy.com/media.html
http://www.thechinastudy.com/media.html
