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Dislexus

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They delayed it to give some of AMC's other shows a chance..

Well, the impact of teaching all those cooks how to make blue meth... and that tape... man...

If the tape gets into DEA hands and only Jesse's face is on it, Gus kills Jesse for sure.

The knecklace.. the knecklace... gotta watch the episode again.
 

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I honestly thought this episode was kind of boring until the final scene. Def thought that was a cool way for Gus to take care of the cartel though.
 

Puffaluffagus

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Gotta question where Jesse's head is at.
It's like he doesn't believe he has "disposable status" anymore.
That was the perfect opportunity to kill Gus and Mike both, they were completely defenseless, he could have shot them both, and him and Walt would have been home free.


Poor Walter Jr gets down graded to a used PT cruiser, ouch.
 
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Homer J Pimpin

yea man they were ruff on the gimp by downgrading the car.
I hated that father son cry session I was cringing literally and thinkin' this is the worst acting Ive ever seen.was not feelin' it at all.And whos to say what jessie dose with gus & mike they might die in his car.Jessie seems to have a loyality about him though to those who have showed him respect.We dont even know if his and walt's relationship is broken or not yet....it's heatin' up
 

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Homer, have you ever experienced one of your parents having a breakdown like that? You're stunned and trying to reassure, afterwards something clicks inside of you because your subconscious realizes roles have switched and you gotta start thinking about taking care of them down the line.

I thought that scene was on the ball.
 

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Walt called Walt Jr. "Jesse" when he was passing out -- that was a major indicator of the nature of Jesse and Walt's relationship. I doubt it's over between them -- that dynamic is the engine that drives the show. It might sound corny, but the reason they fight is because they care about each other like family -- like father and son.

As for Jesse killing Mike and Gus -- what do you think he would do next? He'd be screwed:

He's not getting out of the country alive without the resources and know-how of Gus -- he's in a foreign country with no idea where he is and is now wanted by a massive ruthless criminal organization with ties all the way to police and government.

Presumably Gus has an escape plan -- the guy doesn't take a shit without having a plan first.

Although, this move was pretty reckless and out of character for Gus. Guess you could argue he had no choice and was blinded by his desire for revenge, but this is not the Gus we've come to know previously.
 

Dislexus

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Nice catch HempHut I didn't notice that

Mike saved Jesse's life recently too so that's affecting his judgement.

BTW

DAT ASS
 
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Homer J Pimpin

Homer, have you ever experienced one of your parents having a breakdown like that? You're stunned and trying to reassure, afterwards something clicks inside of you because your subconscious realizes roles have switched and you gotta start thinking about taking care of them down the line.

I thought that scene was on the ball.

I have expierenced a lifetime of pain and have seen many breakdowns I got to watch my mom die of cancer when I was 19.
My bi polar alcoholic father has had many breakdown where I have had to coddle and reassure.It seems all the women Ive ever had any real feelings for have been the neurotic/ crazy type.
I have my own battles with bi polor/depression.so yes I have expierenced that but perhaps what Im missing is the dynamic of the gimps perspective. which is the strong family center. Ive never had the illusion of my father being my hero and then breakin' down. My illusion was beatin' outta me when I was 5 in a drunken rage and replaced with fear.I had to grow up fast and missed my happy childhood.I know, I know deep stuff, but I dont believe in running away from or hiding my past.So maybe from another more sheltered perspective that scene was accurate.I would'nt know. Dont get me wrong I didnt drop that cause I want pity.I wouldn't change my past if I could It has given me a extrodinary insite to the emotional spectrum of a human being has made me strong and secure with myself and tough as nails under pressure I seem to be able to remain calm cool and collected in situations that realy test your meetle.But the tradeoff is often comin' across as gruff ,or insensitive, a bit jaded, untrusting ,and somewhat reclusive. In all honesty I believe myself to be much more sensitive than most people Ive ever met thats probly why the scene made me cringe as it did.
 

Dislexus

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What if it were your mom that was breaking down when you were 16 tho? Thats what it reminded me of, and my shocked promises to make everything ok. Scene made me cringe too.
 
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Homer J Pimpin

well I was just 18 when I found out my mom had cancer.And I was livin' with my dad at the time who had made some way outta line remark after I had hung up the phone. I was crying and feeling realy down. I took a bottle of booze smashed it on the counter and stuck it right to his neck I looked him dead in his eye and said mom has cancer and shes dyin' call her a lyin'whore bitch once more, give me the reason.I called him a bitter drunken fool and walked out.That was the last day I ever lived with my father.The day I became a man.Over the next 6 months my brother and I had to take a few trips to bethesda maryland to visit ma. it was bad, It was not the ma I knew or had last seen and I was a wreck but I had to be the one to hold my moms hand and have to tell her everything was going to be ok.She had yelled at the hospice nurse who she overheard tell my bro and I to be comforting etc etc she sat up and said I came home to live not to die.She winced and fell back down in the bed in obvious agany and I had to tell her she was going to be fine she was scared and I had to hold my emotions in and tell her she would be fine I had to lie to my dyin' mother on her death bed.That night when she was asleep I had met a married neighbor who asked me to come in to help her move some couch I did , found out hubby was absentie and she asked me to go out with her that night.I told her yes and I was bringin' my brother she was cool with that.So we took a drive to the lincon memorial and smoked weed walking around that mirror lake thing. at dawn we had arrived back to ma's and she had us come in for a beer then she told my brother that we had wanted to be alone.she tossed my sald that night the 1st time any girl ever had.The next day we left for home.In 3 more weeks we went back to ma's again,While my brother was with ma I went next door and fucked the neighbor I came back and mom was upset not with the sex but the decision makin' I have not forgived my self for that.I had failed in my duty to not upset her.By the next day ma had allready gotten over it and made a joke about her playboy son.I still had not forgivin' myself though I laughed anyway.2 days later as my bro and I were drivin' home mom had passed her pain was gone and mine had grown.I need to apoliogize to any whom may be upset by these words,indeed not my intention.I simply have never told this story in detail to anyone before and once I opened the door it all came out.Wow this is the most emotional Ive ever felt online ever.Thank you IC for allowing me to purge.Time to get really really stoned!
 

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Although, this move was pretty reckless and out of character for Gus. Guess you could argue he had no choice and was blinded by his desire for revenge, but this is not the Gus we've come to know previously.
Gus has been seething for revenge for 20 years since the Don killed his old chemist/partner, and to kill the don by the same pool his partner was killed at, was bringing things full circle for Gus.

Jesse better not be thinking he's safe now that he saved Gus's life.

One word for you Jesse, Victor, he probably thought he was pretty safe too.

Yeah I want to see how Jesse gets out of Mexican nowhere that they had to be flown into with both Gus and mike severely wounded.

All those capos that got killed each had a big crew I would think.

Gus must have his own plane waiting someplace
 

zymos

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Although, this move was pretty reckless and out of character for Gus. Guess you could argue he had no choice and was blinded by his desire for revenge, but this is not the Gus we've come to know previously.

I agree- Gus has been completely ruthless in the past, but he risked his life, not just for revenge, but in a way that (might) spare Jesse's and Mike's.
 
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Homer J Pimpin

Im still confused as to weather gus got shot or it was just residual poision that made him keel over then the video game seaquence where jessie shot the dude who shot mike was pretty cool rapid fire on a moving target the camera angle was what did it.
 

Dislexus

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Yeah good thing Jesse worked his issues out/practiced on that video game eh... the editing of him shooting the guy was harkening the editing from the video game scene.

So what now for the Pollo Syndicate.

Expand production and rapidly takeover more marketshare?

Maybe Mike doesn't live thru the wound... Maybe Gus doesn't live thru the poisoning... Naaaaaaaah they'll pull thru.
 

LiLWaynE

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So what now for the Pollo Syndicate.

Expand production and rapidly takeover more marketshare?


hell fucking yes.... gus is more then likely done with the current lab for sure...he will be up and moving somewhere else in no time.. perhaps jess and walt BOTH will have their own rooms? or maybe just walt? ..........another quesiton i had.... do you think people who smoke meth can really tell a 5% difference in quality?

spoiler don't read below if u dont watch previews to next episode:
in the next episode i was watching "we were soldiers" on amc and during commerical, previews came up.... there is a scene with gus limping in a mexican looking setting alongside jessie (NO MIKE!?!?!?!) telling JESSIE he thinks he can run the lab by himself... gus is in a room with hector angerly telling him to "LOOK AT ME HECTOR!"....walts wife is shown in a room saying "are you blackmailing me?" ........and lastly it shows walt at jesseis door saying "JESSIE?" in a real weak sounding, somber tone......

hints hints hints
 
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Dislexus

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I doubt the cartels were cooking 95% purity like Gale said he could guarantee. But remember the blue has a different chirality than other meth...

If I were Gus I'd have Jesse take over production and Walt researching new designer drugs... Like making an even better Ecstasy..

Those previews are edited to mess with your head! I bet Mike is in hospital from the gunshot... Gus wants to get back to business and is in enemy territory so he and Jesse aren't going to stick around the hospital.

I was watching Gangland the other day about The Pagans... they had the cook for the biker gang telling his story. He said he cooked "Pagan Purple" then they cut the hell out of it with baby laxative.

I just watched No Country For Old Men the other night... was badass... got the Mod West feel Breaking Bad has... involves narcos too heh.
 

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Damn! Only 3 episodes left of this season! Seems like it just started...
Now comes the mad hype for the "season finale", and I fucking hope there isn't a see you next season cliff hanger!!
 
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A few episodes back when Gus met with the DEA I had a sense Gus almost snubbed Steve Gomez. Immediately, my inner conspirator screamed that there might be a chance Gomez in linked to the cartel.
There was just something about the aloofness that Gus had for the Mexican in the room that had me wondering. :dunno:
 
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