Yellowing on this plant.

[Douche_Bigalow]

Hello,
I have been dealing with a ph swing and I thought it was under control. I am showing it at 5.6-5.8 in all buckets and I have this little guy that is refusing to grow dark green. Everything that it grows is MT dew yellow.

Here is one of the other girls and you can see the few yellow leaves and then the green that it has been growing.




Go easy on me, this is my first time. I will answer any questions I can.
using 135 ML of Heavy 16 A & B each. Also using roots excellarator @ 50 ML. RO water. PPM 760-800. 72-78 Degree's. 18/6 lights. Second week of Veg. All of this is in a UC6.

 

[LittleAmsterdam]

Your net pots look awfully empty... Your supposed to fill them up all the way and plant your clone towards the top. It allows for a bigger root mass.

I noticed you're using red lava rock; which is high in Iron. Did you thoroughly wash the rock before use?

What were the clones planted in before you transplanted them into your net pots?

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

Your net pots look awfully empty... Your supposed to fill them up all the way and plant your clone towards the top. It allows for a bigger root mass.

I have not heard that. I have them an inch from the bottom of the net and there roots are already 2-3 inches long.

I noticed you're using red lava rock; which is high in Iron. Did you thoroughly wash the rock before use?

I did not wash it, I rinsed it over and over again. The water they were in was an even 7 when I introduced it to the system and the system showed no rise in ph or PPM directly after adding the rocks.

What were the clones planted in before you transplanted them into your net pots?

The rock wool cubes that they came in are still on the plants and I do what I can to not allow them to be soaked. If I am doing something wrong let me know.

Thanks,
Douche`

 

[LittleAmsterdam]

I mean thoroughly rinse when I say wash. I wouldn't want anyone to add any soap to their medium.

What are putting the net pots into? Buckets? Tray?

I think / know you're having a PH issue and over fertilization. I've dealt with it before and it can be a bear till you dial it in. Seems like you're giving those little girls a lot of food

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

I mean thoroughly rinse when I say wash. I wouldn't want anyone to add any soap to their medium.

What are putting the net pots into? Buckets? Tray?

I think / know you're having a PH issue. I've dealt with it before and it can be a bear till you dial it in.

LOL, just making sure on the soap thing. I let them soak overnight in water then rinsed them for hours.

I am putting the net pots in to my undercurrent system. It is a UC6.
http://www.cch2o.com/

As far as the pH I am having the same reading though all of the buckets and the Main bucket.

 

[CannabisFox]

looks like massive overfeed to me.

although whats the exact medium? lava rock aaand ?

Looks like these plants are fucked up. get a better hydro setup and start again i suggest !

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

looks like massive overfeed to me.

I doubt that as they have only gotten better with food. (I should elaborate, had an issue with getting the nutes as there is not a hydro store near. They spent 5 days in just water. They started to eat themselves and I finally got nutes. I started at 50 ml then added 50ml more Next day added 35ML more. Then the ph issues started and once I got that under control this one girl has not came back like the rest. I think it is nute locked. I just did the test on res to make sure it can hold the amount needed without leaking. I will be adding this to the system tomorrow after I get my new pH/TDS meter. Will be adding it on a float valve. Once it stands for 24 hours I will drain the system and fill it, then add nutes. Also, I am going to say that once the lights came on today I could see a little yellow on the edges of another girl. I am now thinking you may have been right on the slight overfeeding. Was not convinced until today.)

although whats the exact medium? lava rock aaand ?

No and, just lava rock

Looks like these plants are fucked up. get a better hydro setup and start again i suggest !

They are fucked up. Only one of them though. This is why I am posting here. However, getting a better system? Bro, come on it is an undercurrent. How much better can it get? Start again? Why would I do that?

I normally thank people but........Thanks!

 

[LittleAmsterdam]

I don't know much about your system, but thats a good place to start to help find more answers.

Are all plants the same strain? It's not common to loose one along the way. If you find the others are doing awesome and this is not; stop wasting your time and pull her ! She's sick and too far gone to bring back to health.

 

[LittleAmsterdam]

You mentioned your PH @ 5.6. That's pretty low ! The PH range is more like 5.9-6.1 and I've been running my res lately at 6.1-6.5. She loves it !

 

[LittleAmsterdam]

Your system looks like a modified DWC. I would start your research there.

I was confused when looking at photos of your system. There's no pump or res to drain an fill the nutes.

I would take CannabisFox advice and look into an Ebb-N-Flow system. You'll be able to use your same experience with this system and have much better luck.

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

Your system looks like a modified DWC. I would start your research there.

I was confused when looking at photos of your system. There's no pump or res to drain an fill the nutes.

I would take CannabisFox advice and look into an Ebb-N-Flow system. You'll be able to use your same experience with this system and have much better luck.

I am not sure if you folks here at IC know about Under Current but it is a RDWC. There is nothing modified about this. It is right out of the box set up. There is no way in the world I would trade it for a ebb n flow. That's like having a Cadillac and trading it for a Ford Escort. I am shocked that everyone is saying change my system..

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

You mentioned your PH @ 5.6. That's pretty low ! The PH range is more like 5.9-6.1 and I've been running my res lately at 6.1-6.5. She loves it !

Yes, As this is a RDWC the pH can range. Ideally that is not the case, I think my noobness is to blame and once I get this last lady going I think you will be surprised to see what this machine can do to the ladies. The pH range I will be happy with is a 5.8-6.1. I want the PPM'S down to the 6-700 range though.

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

I don't know much about your system, but thats a good place to start to help find more answers.

Are all plants the same strain? It's not common to loose one along the way. If you find the others are doing awesome and this is not; stop wasting your time and pull her ! She's sick and too far gone to bring back to health.

It is not costing me any more to watch her die.

 

[DutchBoy]

RDWC, cheaper yes, but it doesn't seem to add oxygen and stir up the soup as much as DWC with air stones.

Does every girl have yellowed or yellowing leaves?

About your low medium (lava rocks), you are letting light into the water in the pot, roots NEED to be in darkness.

Your water could be growing algae, check the roots for nute burn and algae.

Not to mention filling the pot stimulates root growth, they will be less prone to damage when moving, wind, or accidents.

Its not written to fill the pots, it is a unwritten rule.

You should pull that bad one though. She could shed into your system, clog up your pumps.

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

RDWC, cheaper yes, but it doesn't seem to add oxygen and stir up the soup as much as DWC with air stones.

Bro, I know these systems are new to you but they are not cheaper. If anything they are more expensive. I have 6 inch air stones in each and a 9 inch diameter defuser in the epicenter. This system pulls the water through the buckets at the bottom then through the return pump in to the chiller. After the water is brought down to 64 degrees it goes back in to the main bucket, called the Epicenter.

Does every girl have yellowed or yellowing leaves?

Just this one, I think it is a Cal-Mg issue. I have added Epsom salt.

About your low medium (lava rocks), you are letting light into the water in the pot, roots NEED to be in darkness.

Now that you say it like that I understand it. The cold water should be enough to keep the water cold until they grow above the rim. I will look in to making it as tall as the net pot. Not to shabby an idea.

Your water could be growing algae, check the roots for nute burn and algae.

Not to mention filling the pot stimulates root growth, they will be less prone to damage when moving, wind, or accidents.

Its not written to fill the pots, it is a unwritten rule.

If this is the case then how does one follow it?

 

[DutchBoy]

Just this one, I think it is a Cal-Mg issue. I have added Epsom salt.

Hopefully your system will be back on track

Now that you say it like that I understand it.......I will look in to making it as tall as the net pot. Not to shabby an idea........If this is the case then how does one follow it?

Well, not to knock you but, common sense. The net pot is deep for a reason, that reason is to fill it with medium.

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

Hopefully your system will be back on track, I would get some nurtiboost get to help the girls.



Well, not to knock you but, common sense. The net pot is deep for a reason, that reason is to fill it with medium. You can buy shallower pots, but I wouldn't go through the trouble, being as you would have to raise the water level.

Most people here don't go for "cutting edge" technology. There is an old saying.... if it isn't broken, don't fix it....

I have a R/DWC system, from UnderCurrent, in a couple boxes, with the chiller, sitting in storage, for a good reason.

As my name implies, I am a douche. I have bought and neutralized enough medium to fill the pots to the top. When I pulled the yellow girl in question out I found the issue. Root rot. I live in the middle of fucking no where so I can only get 3% H2o2. Gonna put a cap full in a gallon of RO water and then water her with this outta the system for a bit. I also clipped her roots and cleaned the system. Im effing tired. I will let ya know how it all works out.

Thanks for all the help,
Douche`


Oh, I know storage space is expensive so I would be happy to take that system off your hands if you would like to free up some room.