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I fear my plants wont finish in time.

Zarezhu

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Hey guys,

So for my first outdoor this year, I think I've done fairly well. Have 5 large plants that are much bigger than expected and are mostly in check. Should be a few 3-4 pounders and maybe a few 2 pounders. One plant (originally most vigorous) is now suffering from what I believe to be severe nitrogen lockout (I fed PLENTY of nitrogen and the whole plant's pretty much yellow, and barely even budding).

The problem is that my plants aren't far along into flower. Most of my plants look like they'll need at least another 8-10 weeks to finish (with the exception of the bottoms on some of the shaded plants, should have colas coming down in 3-4 weeks).

Looking at pictures of everybody else's runs, my plants seem far behind. While people already have stacked colas, the majority of my large plants are just barely stacking their budsites.

The area I'm at right now(Sacramento, daytime highs of 85-90 with night time lows of 50-55) doesn't get it's first frost until December, so on that end I should be fine. However, I'm really worried about October and November rains. Also, the garden gets quite a heavy dew every morning (hasn't started yet, I'd say towards late October you get the dew).

I really want my plants to finish! I dont want to cut down premature buds by the POUND.

What do you people do to keep plants from molding from rain/dew?
My idea is to build a huge frame, drop a tarp over it, seal it somewhat, and run a $100 dehumidifier in it through the nights that it rains or when it starts to dew heavily.

Another idea would be to just drop a tarp over the top. I have a 12" inline fan that I could probably run from the window of the house to the garden (it's maybe 10ft away) at night time to try to keep the humidity lower when there's rain and dew.
 
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dreadedhead

I would really check the ph of your water because you shouldnt be yellowing like that ...its best to grow all organic outside
 
S

Sad But True

Buy a truck load of coal and set it alite!
Try to contribute to global warming... might help the rains not come... have not come in parts of Africa for a few years.
 

Zarezhu

Member
@dreaded - We use well water @ ph 6.8, no chlorine in it at all. VERY good water. There's about 30 plants in the garden that use the well water and the yellowing is only present in the one plant. 100% organic as well, guanos and fish product and all the good stuff :]

@tactical- I'll read through the whole sticky tomorrow, thank you
 

D.S. Toker. MD

Active member
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Hey zarezhu

I would suggest to you that conditions for mould formation are increased greatly when a plant expires its excess nitrogen through the leaves creating a nice rich surface enviroment for mould formation. Be cautious with the ferts at this stage, especially nitro

Regaurding mould, strain selection is really your only control over botryitis. If you choose a strain with some resistance and you probably will be fine. Choose a strain that moulds easily and you could loose every single bud. I dont know what your growing.

Choosing seeds that are appropriate for your climate is the absolute most important decision a grower makes and making the wrong one can mean no harvest or a substandard harvest, regaurdless of how much work youve put into it and even before you plant. For example, i have high humidity and if i were to plant mango or critical, i wouldnt get 1/3 of the smoke becuase mould would take it. I cant grow Jack Herrer because it doenst finish in time. Next year, give strain selection a very serious effort.

Choose proven outdoor for your area
 
I'm in sac too and have to deal with the humidity and october/november rains. I would suggest tarping them for rain and possibly tying the down to get more air flow through the plants or using the fan you're talking about. I wouldn't worry too much about morning dew as you'll have the day time for them to dry out. What strains are you running? Any pics?
 

Zarezhu

Member
@thirst- Yeah I'm definitely going to need to throw a tarp over them when the time comes. We only get this chance once a year and why not do everything I can for these babies??

This picture was a while back. 6' fence, they're in 150 gallon pots on 6' centers. Strains are NYCD, Bubblegum, Purple x Northern Lights, Purple Trash (purpleurk/tw x hashplant), and 2 Alaskan Thunderfucks.

NYCD is a 10-11 week indoor strain, and the high is KILLER. Huge yielder, last year we got a 5lb plant that was pulled a few weeks early and wasn't even too tall. Probably the last to finish.

Purple trash already has nugs that are almost ready, but the tops/majority of the plant is gonna take a good 5 or 6 weeks left. Most robust plant I grew and it has great structure.

Purple x nl is pretty fat now too, 3 weeks till I'm pulling colas.

ATF is such a good strain I had to run it twice. Looks like it'd need another 6 weeks at least.

Bubblegum is growing all fucked up.

@DS toker - Really appreciate the advice. My last nitrogen feeding was a top dress of high N guano right before the stretch. Soil is very rich in P and K so I've been watering with straight water 3 or 4 times in a row, following with a heavy EJ bloom+cat+metaK feeding.

Next year I'll run strains that stand out this year in term of potency, finishing time, and yield.

 
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dreadedhead

@dreaded - We use well water @ ph 6.8, no chlorine in it at all. VERY good water. There's about 30 plants in the garden that use the well water and the yellowing is only present in the one plant. 100% organic as well, guanos and fish product and all the good stuff :]

@tactical- I'll read through the whole sticky tomorrow, thank you
There is a chance that maybe they have nitrogen burn instead. If your ph is right than maybe you have given it to much nitrogen. I would have to see a pic to know for sure. There shouldnt be any other reason for a nitrogen lockout that i know of for sure. It could just be a weak plant that i wouldnt run again. You could try going in on the organic forums and do some dumpster diving in there. There is alot of good organic guys in there that really know their shit
 
How are your plants doing with this terrible weather here in sac? Mine are fairing okay. I only have one tarp so I tied it from the house to the fence. I already harvested one early finisher, so I still have five left. The tarp was only large enough to cover three but luckily the three I would want to cover most are grouped. I lost the top three inches or so of the main bud on my gdp plant to bud rot. After those first couple days of heavy rain, I noticed it when the weather cleared up so I cut it off. The rest of them seem to be doing okay. I took down the tarp but put it back up today when I woke up to heavy rains. Fuck this weather, right? Doing what I can to keep them safe.

-t4k
 
I'm in Sac and I wouldn't worry too much.....plants can handle rain and frost rather well. The biggest problem is wet branches breaking from all the weight. Even if you lose some, there will still be a lot left.
GDP is a problem as those big colas tend to rot on the inside, especially if they have been getting eaten by budworms, which are a pain in this area.

Most of my outdoor is in, but I have one big sativa that won't come in until Thanksgiving, and I don;t expect to have any problems with it.
 
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