Michigan MMj ~ Recent Challenges
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3 dispensaries for k zoo??? dont you guys need like 20 more??? we only gonna have 20 dispensaries in the whole state???
Yeah if we want to be like that asshole you know that was up at the rally saying we want to be like Cali. Each local municipality should be allowed to cap the number of dispensaries in their area. I don't want any cities in MI to ever be like Denver or LA.
Mt Toaker
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I agree, while 3 is low, the 40 something odd approved for Lansing is quite a bit. I don't think looking like Denver or LA would be good in the eyes of those who are on the fence as far as persuading voters. We are still trying to educate people showing legitimacy in an industry that has little acceptance by those in power now and we can't make it look like we want to have herb sold on every street corner even though some people do.
Mt Toaker
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So talked to boss man today and he said kalamazoos city clerk still hasent sent the initiative to the state for aproval and there is no legal deadline for his job just for the subitting people trying to enact the movement... Ie us... Not 100% on if hes going to court over it. He has thousands in this already and unfortunately work has been slow so he doesnt have much to put towards it. That said he still wants this to go through so filing a civil suit is still a considered option.
Musicianized
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Who is Medjoint?
Kaossilation
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We all need to sign the Schuette recall petition en masse. Fuck these teapublican hypocrites!
theres recall places everywhere if you havnt sign up yet google it as im sure theres somewhere you can go to sign up...
Kaossilation
Member
On it. Also contacting Michigan & Nationwide ACLU.
Read back like a page or two... The MACC has ACLU lawyers working on it.
Kaossilation
Member
So, aside from being a "public nuisance", they ruled that dispensaries are in violation of the public health code...
Turns out, the public health code in Michigan doesn't mention cannabis or sales of cannabis one time, medical or not.
Turns out, the public health code in Michigan doesn't mention cannabis or sales of cannabis one time, medical or not.
I still question how many other health code violations get you s.q.u.a.t. kickin in your doors??? Wrong dish soap?? Water not hot enough?? Bam Bam down on the floor M**Fu**Kr.. where is your dog so we can shoot it?????
Mt Toaker
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Any one read "The Grand Rapids Press"? They have an article entitled "Medical Marijuana and 'Compassionate Caregivers'" Here is my lengthy response to it. If you want to e-mail [email protected] and let them know how you feel about the misinformation they are spewing thats the guy.
The Grand Rapids Press wrote an article entitled "Medical marijuana and 'compassionate caregivers'" I doubt they will print the lengthy letter I just wrote them but if you get a chance to read their article and are as frustrated with the misinformation as myself you should copy and paste my rebuttle and send it to them.
Lets take a look at this and realize the statement about legalization of marijuana and remember the once alcohol was prohibited and was also given out 'medicinally' to cure the 'sic'. It was in fact a system set in place to keep those who could afford a 'prescription' out of the legal system. So really, to jump ahead to the end of your article, "those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Prohibition didn't work for alcohol and it doesn't work for anything else. The Medical Marijuana industry is being forced by the hand of the government to approach this matter in the way it does because this is the way things worked in the past for other prohibited substances.
The fact that THC is a chemical the produces some medicinal affects is true but the bulk of relief is cause by another chemical produced by the cannabis plant called canibinold, also known as CDB. A study being done by a compassion center out in California has shown that those strains (a specific variety of cannabis generally stemming from the region where it originates in the world, because it does grow naturally around the world) rich in CBD are producing more medicinal affects and actually negates some of the psychoactive affects that come hand in hand with THC.
Another fact is the government does not hand many federally sanctioned licenses to study cannabis appropriately. This has been evident before even 1995 when cannabis was legalized medicinally in California. So I ask the question, if the government will not allow people to perform studies on cannabis then how are we to assess the appropriateness of its prescription and distribution? This is the reason why people have been forced to take matters into their own hands. Dispensaries are a form of quality control, you mislabeling them as "drug dealers" could not be a more false statement for many of these store owners. There are a number of Dispensaries ,associated with Michigan Association of Compassion Centers(MACC), who send their product off to a lab to be tested before allowing patients to use the medication. So there is quality controls in the industry and by calling caregivers and dispensary owners drug dealers could not be more of a false statement. There is still a black market going on in Michigan, especially since the ruling in the court of appeals. The fact remains if you want to talk about drug dealers talk about drug dealers and not people trying to legitimize the industry and take the money out of the hands of criminal minds who really have no desire to be the least bit compassionate, although those in the Medical cannabis community make it a goal to be as compassionate as they can in assisting patients. Bringing up the still prominent black market brings me to my last and most compelling point.
Let me start off by repeating a quote by you once again. "those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it", this statement could not be more true today in paralleling the actions of alcohol prohibition and its consequences. Alcohol prohibition caused massive underground markets, gave money to criminals, and caused many many social issues outside of there being drunks walking around. Cannabis prohibition is doing the exact same thing. Cannabis is the #1 cash crop for Mexican Drug Cartel's.
Look here to find out what they are doing south of the boarder. http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ana-crop-ever-found-in-mexico-to-be-destroyed
If cannabis were to be legalized and taxed then we wouldn't have to spend billions on law enforcement within our country every year, we wouldn't be spending billions on housing all of the inmates convicted or pay for the 800,000 arrests for possession of marijuana every year. Those are just the savings, now if we take a look at tax revenues and actually taking in to account that California did 14 billion in cannabis sales last year and the 2nd largest cash crop in the US is corn at 7.5 billion last year. This gives you an idea of what kind of money is going to the drug cartels. If we were to take away their main source of income then they will lose much of their funding for weapons and gang members. So at this point it is safe to say that we are already condemned to repeat the past because we have successfully done so, instead of Al Capone in Chicago its some guy in Mexico who I'm sure we will hear about in the future. I ask in my closing statement, if we are bound to repeat history then why don't we just finish repeating it?
The Grand Rapids Press wrote an article entitled "Medical marijuana and 'compassionate caregivers'" I doubt they will print the lengthy letter I just wrote them but if you get a chance to read their article and are as frustrated with the misinformation as myself you should copy and paste my rebuttle and send it to them.
Lets take a look at this and realize the statement about legalization of marijuana and remember the once alcohol was prohibited and was also given out 'medicinally' to cure the 'sic'. It was in fact a system set in place to keep those who could afford a 'prescription' out of the legal system. So really, to jump ahead to the end of your article, "those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Prohibition didn't work for alcohol and it doesn't work for anything else. The Medical Marijuana industry is being forced by the hand of the government to approach this matter in the way it does because this is the way things worked in the past for other prohibited substances.
The fact that THC is a chemical the produces some medicinal affects is true but the bulk of relief is cause by another chemical produced by the cannabis plant called canibinold, also known as CDB. A study being done by a compassion center out in California has shown that those strains (a specific variety of cannabis generally stemming from the region where it originates in the world, because it does grow naturally around the world) rich in CBD are producing more medicinal affects and actually negates some of the psychoactive affects that come hand in hand with THC.
Another fact is the government does not hand many federally sanctioned licenses to study cannabis appropriately. This has been evident before even 1995 when cannabis was legalized medicinally in California. So I ask the question, if the government will not allow people to perform studies on cannabis then how are we to assess the appropriateness of its prescription and distribution? This is the reason why people have been forced to take matters into their own hands. Dispensaries are a form of quality control, you mislabeling them as "drug dealers" could not be a more false statement for many of these store owners. There are a number of Dispensaries ,associated with Michigan Association of Compassion Centers(MACC), who send their product off to a lab to be tested before allowing patients to use the medication. So there is quality controls in the industry and by calling caregivers and dispensary owners drug dealers could not be more of a false statement. There is still a black market going on in Michigan, especially since the ruling in the court of appeals. The fact remains if you want to talk about drug dealers talk about drug dealers and not people trying to legitimize the industry and take the money out of the hands of criminal minds who really have no desire to be the least bit compassionate, although those in the Medical cannabis community make it a goal to be as compassionate as they can in assisting patients. Bringing up the still prominent black market brings me to my last and most compelling point.
Let me start off by repeating a quote by you once again. "those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it", this statement could not be more true today in paralleling the actions of alcohol prohibition and its consequences. Alcohol prohibition caused massive underground markets, gave money to criminals, and caused many many social issues outside of there being drunks walking around. Cannabis prohibition is doing the exact same thing. Cannabis is the #1 cash crop for Mexican Drug Cartel's.
Look here to find out what they are doing south of the boarder. http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ana-crop-ever-found-in-mexico-to-be-destroyed
If cannabis were to be legalized and taxed then we wouldn't have to spend billions on law enforcement within our country every year, we wouldn't be spending billions on housing all of the inmates convicted or pay for the 800,000 arrests for possession of marijuana every year. Those are just the savings, now if we take a look at tax revenues and actually taking in to account that California did 14 billion in cannabis sales last year and the 2nd largest cash crop in the US is corn at 7.5 billion last year. This gives you an idea of what kind of money is going to the drug cartels. If we were to take away their main source of income then they will lose much of their funding for weapons and gang members. So at this point it is safe to say that we are already condemned to repeat the past because we have successfully done so, instead of Al Capone in Chicago its some guy in Mexico who I'm sure we will hear about in the future. I ask in my closing statement, if we are bound to repeat history then why don't we just finish repeating it?
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