Okay well lets try to get this one straight so there is no misunderstandings here . You are supposed to eat 6 to 8 veggies EVERYDAY!! Just like water..Most poeple either don't do this or don't have time . So I suggest you either make smoothies or supplement or become a veggen. If you get a chance do watch the show I suggested and you will see why I suggest this it's too long to type in this thread .. As far as supplements go you can overdo them so ask an expert before going to crazy..peace out Headband707
I've never found a single vitamin or supplement that noticably changed my health
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SkimmingDaSky
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Rhodiola Rosea. It helps with physical and mental stamina. Good Stuff.
Tua-vita-facies
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Shilijat - 86 trace minerals, + fulvic and humic acids, used for centuries in the Himalaya's to heal.
Picamilon - Niacinamide+GABA, rivals benzo's.
L-Theanine - Eases nervous system tension, promotes alpha brain waves, or meditative state
Omega 3-6-9 - Supports healthy function of entire body.
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geoponics13
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ManitobaMedical
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too high to notice?,lol
peace MM
peace MM
i did not say its the only source of vitamin A. I said the only source of vitamin A from animals is in the liver. not the only source period.
i think omege fatty acids were found in fish? its also found in eggs.. turkey.. milk.. lean red meat.. etc.. should i go on? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-3_fatty_acid
your trying to argue about something for no reason. Everything I said you have to make an argument out of it.
Vitamin C does make me feel better. I have gotten sick all my life realy easy. When i started taking vitamin c about 5 years ago i stopped getting sick. now even if i dont take vitamin c i dont get sick that often because i am somewhat more healthy these days.
I read that vitamin c will slow down the free radicals. not sure if thats true or not im not saying i know much about it. just coming from experience.
Also thats just not true about fruits and vegetables having more vitamins than meat. Maybe if your meat is cooked. Raw meat is packed full of vitamins.
Meat has everything you need to survive and be healthy. Its the only food source that you can eat for like 50 years straight and still be healthy.
Ive never seen a vegeterian last any more than 30 years on the diet. paleo people and eskimos ate nothing but meat. they ate a fat to protein ratio of 70 percent fat 30 percent protein normally.
There is even a food callled pemmican where you dry lean meat and add melted saturated fat too it and let it cool. the food last up to 30 years and 1lb is enough for 1 day of food. so thats how people lived during the fur trade era when they had to move a lot.
if you look up owsley stanely. he ate nothing but meat for 57 years.
im not saying thats the healthiest way to eat. I dont eat that way thats just disgusting to me and I know plants can be beneficial.
im just saying meat has it all.
LovableHuggable
Member
Pain clinics often recommend this before they get you on the dope.
I've started the osteobioflex (2xTriple strength a day), vitamin c (2g a day), and fish oil (3g a day). I need to add the rest of the vitamins like they said do but I've been complacent with the results from what I am taking now.
one of the more interesting data points in the debate of diet
one of the great myths in human history is the notion of a well balanced diet
for how did eskimos(who never even saw a green vegetable), live to ripe old ages with mouthfuls of teeth?
eskimo is not the 'self' name of these people, it comes from Cree(maybe), and means 'eats meat raw'
yeah i find these types of diets fascinating. i think there is so much more to learn about human health and food.
I tried the all meat diet. I only ate rib eye steaks, hamburger, and eggs with lots of unsalted butter. I did feel a lot better when i got past induction. I just found it extremely hard to get rid of the carb cravings. so i just couldn't do it. i mite try again some day i just need more motivation. I lasted about 2 months. I was having dreams about ice cream and pizza lol it was terrible.
Its hard to say how beneficial fruits and vegetables really are. Sometimes I wonder if they are actually bad for us to eat. I am no expert, though.
Yeah guys vits work find out whats going on with your body and take the right vit to help that flow they really do work it's a good thing LOL.. They save your gums help your nerves help your kidneys and on and on but if you can get them in food by all means and if you don't think you can supplement.. peace out Headband707
bozga
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Guys, every person has it's own body and different needs regarding nutrition.
There are 4 different blood types.
0 blood type is the oldest and most versatile and all our ancestors who were hunters had 0 blood group, if you have 0 blood type you should eat lots of meat. Organicly grown meat, not the GMO shit.
A blood type is for vegetarians , people wtih A blood group can easily be vegetarians
B blood type should eat fish and animal products like milk and cheese, eggs
AB is the newest blood group which appeared around 1000 years ago, and people with AB should be picky about food because their digestion tract is low on stomach acid
Digestion is important and won't work well if you don't do shit. We all need to move and to exercise. We have out feet, but today people don't use them. They use cars.
I mean, everyone needs to move and do something, stay in the sun.. For example vitamin D cannot be produced in enough quantities if a person is not exposed to at least 30 minutes of direct sunlight.
It's not reasonable to take all the supplements if there is no need for it.
Vitamins are essential for the body to function properly and most of them wont' work if you just take them and you eat shitty processed food and don't move.
In fresh food there are enough vitamins and there is no need to take any supplements.
Sure natural adaptogens and nootropics can be good for people to have more stamina, stability, focus good immune system to avoid diseases but should be also taken in moderation as well as other supplements and vitamins.
And of course, you will not be very healthy if you do too much excersise or too little nor you'll be healthy if you eat too much or too little. Find your balance and feel your body and soul. Aurea mediocritas
peace, boz
There are 4 different blood types.
0 blood type is the oldest and most versatile and all our ancestors who were hunters had 0 blood group, if you have 0 blood type you should eat lots of meat. Organicly grown meat, not the GMO shit.
A blood type is for vegetarians , people wtih A blood group can easily be vegetarians
B blood type should eat fish and animal products like milk and cheese, eggs
AB is the newest blood group which appeared around 1000 years ago, and people with AB should be picky about food because their digestion tract is low on stomach acid
Digestion is important and won't work well if you don't do shit. We all need to move and to exercise. We have out feet, but today people don't use them. They use cars.
I mean, everyone needs to move and do something, stay in the sun.. For example vitamin D cannot be produced in enough quantities if a person is not exposed to at least 30 minutes of direct sunlight.
It's not reasonable to take all the supplements if there is no need for it.
Vitamins are essential for the body to function properly and most of them wont' work if you just take them and you eat shitty processed food and don't move.
In fresh food there are enough vitamins and there is no need to take any supplements.
Sure natural adaptogens and nootropics can be good for people to have more stamina, stability, focus good immune system to avoid diseases but should be also taken in moderation as well as other supplements and vitamins.
And of course, you will not be very healthy if you do too much excersise or too little nor you'll be healthy if you eat too much or too little. Find your balance and feel your body and soul. Aurea mediocritas
peace, boz
AndreNicky
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*sigh*
First off we have no idea what macronutrient ratio paleo man ate, it definitely wasn't zero carb.
Eskimos utilize hundreds of herbs, berries, various plants and eat animal entrails that contain plant foods. They also eat a pretty novel diet of mostly cold water seafood. FYI they have a shorter lifespan than modern people and according to accounts they age very young.
The longest lived people eat a ton of plant foods and the people who supposedly eat almost nothing but animal foods always utilize special herbs and plant foods. Masai males for example eat almost nothing but meat, milk and blood during there warrior phase but they must also drink special herb teas or there cholesterol rises and they become sick.
i am talking about the inuit eskimos.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit
they did eat berries and other things very rarely. 75 percent of their diet was saturated fat. only the women would gather guys did not eat it nearly as often.
people have no problem with there cholesterol when eating a proper fat diet of about 70 percent fat to 30 percent protein. lots of this stuff is explained all over the web. people do it all the time. there is people out there that has eaten nothing but pemmican for 5 years and they are fine.
its also impossible to eat zero carb. you just cant do it. meat has small amounts of carbs even. I see it as more of a carnivore diet. People have actually eaten nothing but meat in the past and were healthy. Even people today like Owsley Stanley. 57 years of nothing but meat. he died recently from a car accident.
also read about this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson
Stefansson (1946) also observed that the Inuit were able to get the necessary vitamins they needed from their traditional winter diet, which did not contain any plant matter. In particular, he found that adequate vitamin C could be obtained from items in their traditional diet of raw meat such as Ringed Seal liver and whale skin (muktuk). While there was considerable scepticism when he reported these findings, they have been borne out in recent studies.[32]
and whats with the *sigh*. its just disrespectful. why cant we have rational discussion? your too full of yourself.
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trem0lo
Supplements that I've found to work:
creatine (for all you lifters--it's great)
glucosamine (for joints, but it takes about a week to kick in)
That's about it. Also I've found organic apple cider vinegar to be an amazing supplement--from weight loss to blood sugar to heartburn to hangovers to immune system to sleeping better... it's a great cure-all.
creatine (for all you lifters--it's great)
glucosamine (for joints, but it takes about a week to kick in)
That's about it. Also I've found organic apple cider vinegar to be an amazing supplement--from weight loss to blood sugar to heartburn to hangovers to immune system to sleeping better... it's a great cure-all.
AndreNicky
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The sigh is because I've seen this argument hundreds of times from people such as your self who make wild assumptions. Unless you lived with the inuit you have no idea what they do and we have accounts that directly contradict your claim that they eat basically nothing but meat. Maybe you should take the time to actually read the wiki next time "Grasses, tubers, roots, stems, berries, and seaweed (kuanniq or edible seaweed) were collected and preserved depending on the season and the location."
Owsley stanley is dead and steffanson was known to embellish stuff, just because someone can survive on an all meat diet(which includes things like brains) for 1 year does not prove if a diet is healthy in the long term. Check this out-
"The men lost large amounts of calcium – about 400 mg per day. Meat contains little calcium, but the calcium metabolism cycle continued in the men’s bodies." " Even more serious is what happened to Karsten Anderson after a year on the meat diet.
In the spring of 1929 the polar explorer developed "pain in the right chest, a severe chill, and rapidly rising temperature. The next day the sputum was rusty in color, the temperature was 40 degrees" "Not that strange when you consider that the subjects’ cholesterol level rose to 800." The study was funded by the meat packers association
http://www.ergo-log.com/meatonly.html
In your next post you go on about how you think fruits and vegetables probably aren't healthy which is a common low carb dogma based on nothing.
I personally don't live in eskimo fantasy land and actually look at all the evidence and others results, doing so has brought me to the conclusion that carnivore diets are pretty unhealthy unless you make sure to eat specific foods which industrialized folks don't have access too.
Guys, every person has it's own body and different needs regarding nutrition.
There are 4 different blood types.
0 blood type is the oldest and most versatile and all our ancestors who were hunters had 0 blood group, if you have 0 blood type you should eat lots of meat. Organicly grown meat, not the GMO shit.
A blood type is for vegetarians , people wtih A blood group can easily be vegetarians
B blood type should eat fish and animal products like milk and cheese, eggs
AB is the newest blood group which appeared around 1000 years ago, and people with AB should be picky about food because their digestion tract is low on stomach acid
Digestion is important and won't work well if you don't do shit. We all need to move and to exercise. We have out feet, but today people don't use them. They use cars.
I mean, everyone needs to move and do something, stay in the sun.. For example vitamin D cannot be produced in enough quantities if a person is not exposed to at least 30 minutes of direct sunlight.
It's not reasonable to take all the supplements if there is no need for it.
Vitamins are essential for the body to function properly and most of them wont' work if you just take them and you eat shitty processed food and don't move.
In fresh food there are enough vitamins and there is no need to take any supplements.
Sure natural adaptogens and nootropics can be good for people to have more stamina, stability, focus good immune system to avoid diseases but should be also taken in moderation as well as other supplements and vitamins.
And of course, you will not be very healthy if you do too much excersise or too little nor you'll be healthy if you eat too much or too little. Find your balance and feel your body and soul. Aurea mediocritas
peace, boz
Bra before you say things like meat and cheese lol I suggest you may want to perhaps do a bit more reseach on those two subjects lol then again watch the show I suggested your blood type has vertally nothing to do with what your eating lol sending good kharma your way peace out Headband707
AndreNicky
Member
Meat and cheese from reliable sources(not factory farms) are healthy according to the research.
The sigh is because I've seen this argument hundreds of times from people such as your self who make wild assumptions. Unless you lived with the inuit you have no idea what they do and we have accounts that directly contradict your claim that they eat basically nothing but meat. Maybe you should take the time to actually read the wiki next time "Grasses, tubers, roots, stems, berries, and seaweed (kuanniq or edible seaweed) were collected and preserved depending on the season and the location."
Owsley stanley is dead and steffanson was known to embellish stuff, just because someone can survive on an all meat diet(which includes things like brains) for 1 year does not prove if a diet is healthy in the long term. Check this out-
"The men lost large amounts of calcium – about 400 mg per day. Meat contains little calcium, but the calcium metabolism cycle continued in the men’s bodies." " Even more serious is what happened to Karsten Anderson after a year on the meat diet.
In the spring of 1929 the polar explorer developed "pain in the right chest, a severe chill, and rapidly rising temperature. The next day the sputum was rusty in color, the temperature was 40 degrees" "Not that strange when you consider that the subjects’ cholesterol level rose to 800." The study was funded by the meat packers association
http://www.ergo-log.com/meatonly.html
In your next post you go on about how you think fruits and vegetables probably aren't healthy which is a common low carb dogma based on nothing.
I personally don't live in eskimo fantasy land and actually look at all the evidence and others results, doing so has brought me to the conclusion that carnivore diets are pretty unhealthy unless you make sure to eat specific foods which industrialized folks don't have access too.
there is plenty of people out there that has eaten nothing but meat and have had many test done to show their cholesterol levels as well as their vitamin and nutrient levels on message boards like zeroing in on health. they were nearly perfect. after many years of eating meat.
so many other things could have led to chest pain. not eating 70/30 ratio.. adding fruits and vegetables.. cooking your meat too much. etc..
I have personal friends who have eaten nothing but rib eye's for 3 years now and they are as healthy as anyone I know.
If you read my post. I did say that the inuit ate other things too, but it was very rare. women were the gatherers. men barely ate that shit. also it is said, those types of food were last resort when they were starving.
also owsley died from a car accident.. had nothing to with his diet. so i dont see how that is even a relevant. 57 years of eating meat.. he said sometimes he ate nothing but steaks for months in a row.
I will no longer reply in the thread because im tired of disrespectful counter arguments. I dont mind discussing these things respectfully. people can discuss this shit a lot better without the ego's. as much you like to to think it, you dont know everything. if everyone could keep an open mind we can learn a lot quicker and figure these things out.
I am not saying its the perfect way to eat. I dont even eat that way cause i cannot do it. I still eat vegetables and fruits. I am only showing the evidence and I know people who do it just fine. For a lot longer than a year.
I dont know many people that lasted very long on a vegetarian diet. One of my friends is a vegetarian and has been for about 4 years and she looks terrible. She is too hard headed to stop.
I think you can get through life just fine by eating a mixed diet. I think you can get through life just fine by eating only meat too.
this was my last post in this thread.. i see no reason to go on because i have no reason to argue in this manner. it is not beneficial and it wont change a thing. i just dont care to deal with such an ego.
if you stop taking it them you will get sick. your body can become dependent on anything like that if you pump it in you everyday.
jgrow
Member
I only read the first page, that was enough for me to not want to continue.
Don't be Ignorant be Informed.
The amount of wrong information and personal opinions in here isn't surprising considering our population is hugely malnourished as a whole.
www.doctoryourself.com
And for the love of ganja. Take care of your bodies so you can be around to enjoy the stuff.
Edit: Also disregard the FDA they kill us to make there selves rich.
Don't be Ignorant be Informed.
The amount of wrong information and personal opinions in here isn't surprising considering our population is hugely malnourished as a whole.
www.doctoryourself.com
And for the love of ganja. Take care of your bodies so you can be around to enjoy the stuff.
Edit: Also disregard the FDA they kill us to make there selves rich.
