Culturing Microlife..

[big ballin 88]

As I sit here making a culture of lactobacillus, I start questioning other forms of micro-life, such as yeast and indigenous lifeforms of my area. I intend to make a yeast culture utilizing a bottle of beer. I've been thinking about utilizing local soil to make a culture and check it out under my scope. My main interest right now is fruit FPE's utilizing lacto.

I've been making FPE's for the past year, but never with lactoB, but look forward to trying it. I've also made some AACT utilizing some bamboo water and it really provided a boost to my mulberry tree's that get waterlogged regularly.

So what else can we culture and furthermore, what do you culture and how?

 

[jaykush]

search the forums or the net for BIM ( beneficial indigenous micro organsims)

also something i have no clue about which microbes it is, but i made some homemade soy milk a few weeks ago. ended up not drinking it all for some reason or another, well it separated like the lacto B culture and had a nice yellow serum, i check under the scope its active as hell. who knows what microbe it is though, doesnt smell like LAB made the way we make it with milk. going to dilute and apply later today to some not so healthy plants. see if it perks them up.

 

[420empire]

Hey JayKush

What did the ladies think about your mixture ?

 

[jaykush]

i just sprayed it, i wont expect to see anything until at least tomorrow. if that.

 

[rrog]

I have extreme microscope envy JayK. Shit

 

[h.h.]

search the forums or the net for BIM ( beneficial indigenous micro organsims)

also something i have no clue about which microbes it is, but i made some homemade soy milk a few weeks ago. ended up not drinking it all for some reason or another, well it separated like the lacto B culture and had a nice yellow serum, i check under the scope its active as hell. who knows what microbe it is though, doesnt smell like LAB made the way we make it with milk. going to dilute and apply later today to some not so healthy plants. see if it perks them up.

Now you're pulling one of my stunts. It looks like something, hell I'm gonna try it. If it dies, it's compost. Nothing goes to waste.
What's it taste like?
Coconut milk will do the same thing.

 

[jaykush]

id rather not taste it lol.

i did put lots of sugar in it to sweeten up the soymilk actually now that i think of it.

 

[h.h.]

Soy-beer, For the drunk who cares about their health. Your liver might be saying no, but just a few sips and it will be saying, yes, yes, yes...
Isn't the point of the milk to provide a favorable environment for the lacto bacteria while creating an unfavorable one for others? I believe it has to do with the lactose in the milk.
I think that was my quandary when I used coconut milk to cultivate lactobacillus. Looked like your pictures. Smelled fresh, reminded me of yogurt. I mentioned before, I dropped a banana in it, let it cook a couple days. Actually pretty tasty, though I did pass out for a number of hours and woke up with the taste of blood in my mouth.
I do believe it was lactob, or something other closely related. I'd say what you have is pretty similar, though you added the sugar beforehand rather than after. Perhaps a larger presence of alcohol to what effect on the bacteria I can only guess.
Maybe you should be fermenting all your milk...
http://www.naturalnews.com/025513_soy_food_soybeans.html


I'm sorry, I have to add this link as well. As documented on WND 9and you thought Fox was bad). I hope it doesn't offend anybody...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327

 

[Rusty420]

LOL

LOL

Actually pretty tasty, though I did pass out for a number of hours and woke up with the taste of blood in my mouth.

 

[mad librettist]

!!!

 

[jaykush]

Isn't the point of the milk to provide a favorable environment for the lacto bacteria while creating an unfavorable one for others? I believe it has to do with the lactose in the milk.

yea pretty much, and that gives them the upper hand to out compete the other species and colonize the serum.

I do believe it was lactob, or something other closely related. I'd say what you have is pretty similar, though you added the sugar beforehand rather than after. Perhaps a larger presence of alcohol to what effect on the bacteria I can only guess.

yea i have no way of knowing without some sort of lab equipment i don't want to buy. im assuming its a different bacteria as its a different material. who knows. im not going to drink it that's for sure.

well i added the sugar because it makes the soymilk taste better. raw homemade soymilk is kinda grassy in flavor.

in the end i don't think this is worth it unless you already make the soymilk to drink and just do a little on the side. its quite a process to just waste the soymilk. the only reason i didnt drink it was because i made almond milk too that was just way better.


what i do know is worth making is the BIM culture. specailly when you get good at picking the spots to culture your microbes. which involves going exploring in the forest!

 

[mad librettist]

LAB don't care what kind of sugar - sucrose, lactose, fructose, dextrose, whatever. Whenever they are present in great numbers and there is food, they start to dominate. If you cut of the air supply, yeast really becomes background. Someone may correct me but AFAIK, LAB don't use lactase to digest lactose.

There are things that can kill the LAB, like viruses for instance.

 

[h.h.]

yea pretty much, and that gives them the upper hand to out compete the other species and colonize the serum.



yea i have no way of knowing without some sort of lab equipment i don't want to buy. im assuming its a different bacteria as its a different material. who knows. im not going to drink it that's for sure.

well i added the sugar because it makes the soymilk taste better. raw homemade soymilk is kinda grassy in flavor.

in the end i don't think this is worth it unless you already make the soymilk to drink and just do a little on the side. its quite a process to just waste the soymilk. the only reason i didnt drink it was because i made almond milk too that was just way better.


what i do know is worth making is the BIM culture. specailly when you get good at picking the spots to culture your microbes. which involves going exploring in the forest!

You probably have some soy yogurt.
I've been enjoying some hazelnut milk lately. Is the stuff difficult to make. I have some sweet mesquite bean meal that might work.
Mesquite yogurt. It may be a first.

 

[jaykush]

hazelnut milk is extremely easy to make. hazelnut milk is even more of a waste to let ferment. shit is good.

 

[h.h.]

Oatmeal made with hazelnut milk with a couple tablespoons of the mesquite. Clean ya out good.
If the LB was the by product, maybe not a waste. If what I've read on fermented soy and fermented foods in general isn't all hype, cultivating with dairy milk alternatives may actually make them more digestible.
Try the mesquite if you find it. My brother made the meal up that I have, but I see it online though a little expensive.

 

[jaykush]

mesquite trees dont grow here, far from here actually. or id be jumping on that resource.

 

[h.h.]

Now you know how I feel with your nettle and forest BIM's. LOL They're just a little bit out of my reach. I keep having to look for alternatives.
BIM an be collected in the desert as well, it;s just a little harder to find.
Yeah, stick to the local stuff. That's why I'm partial to the mesquite. It just makes stoner sense. Just like native microbes best equip your plant, native foods must hold some benefit.