Covering Up The Heat That's Created

[coughcough]

Hey folks!

I'm concerned with police airplanes (yes, it happens)!!!!!

With all the other precautions I've made I'd sure like some suggestions on how I could shield the heat from being detected from an outside source please.

As paranoid as this may sound, I would greatly appreciate some suggestions!

Thanks!

 

[Anti]

Need details. Where are you going to be putting it? (Attic, bedroom, basement, etc.?) How big will it be? What's your budget like?

 

[supermanlives]

insulate,add ac and forget about it. room inside a room both insulated .

 

[coughcough]

Sorry for the delayed response. The area is a cabinet in a garage. The garage is not insulated (built in the 50's). The cabinet is approx 6 ft tall, 3.5ft deep and 3ft wide.

Anything I could wrap it in? Right now isn't a big deal, but when it gets really cold this winter, I'd like to hide the heat as much as possible.

Thanks!!

 

[cirog]

Reflectix. I would simply put a layer over the whole thing and use duct tape to seal it all off. But the heat is going to need to go somewhere, if you "hide" the heat it will still need to be removed from your cabinet and vented somewhere, this will give off a heat signature that might be suspicious, Is the garage attached to the house, could you put in a dryer vent that would be used as an exit for your excess heat. Just ideas.

 

[Dislexus]

Sorry to threadjack...

But what is the point at which the differential between attic (or inside temp) and outside temp raises alarms? Or rather the range that would cause the telltale color on the flir that catches attention, vs. outside temps?

 

[THE TROOPER]

instal a small wood stove, vent your cab into the stove pipe and light it every night after supper!
if they ever do get a hit on your location if they look into it futher they will see it's a wood stove and hopefully check you off their list!
good luck bro!

TT

 

[Dislexus]

supermanlives,

You wrote in the ozone machine thread you used to exhaust into your attic where your exhaust mixed with the O2. Was that detrimonious to your FLIR signature, or not so obvious?

I guess in the summer have lights on and exhaust at night, in the winter switch it to day... would the contrast be that significant hmmmm

 

[coughcough]

Here is my room...

 

[Warped1]

I don't think a cab that small will really make a difference in a garage. I'd be more concerned with odor control

 

[THE TROOPER]

dude... it's right next to a furnace! tie into furnace vent problem solved!
you need more lights to have a signature that the cops are looking for....you should be fine!

TT

 

[Dislexus]

Oh its just 1 light? In a garage? You'll be fine...

Usually the only problem with garage cabs is heat issues in summer...

 

[supermanlives]

supermanlives,

You wrote in the ozone machine thread you used to exhaust into your attic where your exhaust mixed with the O2. Was that detrimonious to your FLIR signature, or not so obvious?

I guess in the summer have lights on and exhaust at night, in the winter switch it to day... would the contrast be that significant hmmmm

i aint running that setup anymore. but when i did i double insulated the attic. fiberglass stuff,plastic and tek foil 6 ft rolls. my vent into the attic was at one end of the attic. i installed 2 fans. intake near where vent enters attic and ozone genny sat and exhaust at far end of attic. i ran my flower cycles in the day.the attic was previously so hot in the day being un insulated i doubt there was much of an ir difference maybe cooler after being vented an insulated.i melted snow off roof in winter before it was insulated and vented. in winter the intake brought in enough cold air to keep temps low so very little ir signature.

 

[Jacky_Brown]

Hey folks!

I'm concerned with police airplanes (yes, it happens)!!!!!

With all the other precautions I've made I'd sure like some suggestions on how I could shield the heat from being detected from an outside source please.

As paranoid as this may sound, I would greatly appreciate some suggestions!

Thanks!

You talking big scale?

 

[coughcough]

THANKS Everyone!!!

Sure puts things at ease. BTW, I'll be harvesting the plants in that photo within week!

 

[iBlaze]

You're fine. I'm pumping 400 watts in an attic with nothing to cover it up. That 1 light you have could be a garage light alone. Good luck, I'll check back for a picture on them harvested plants.

 

[qupee]

instal a small wood stove, vent your cab into the stove pipe and light it every night after supper!
if they ever do get a hit on your location if they look into it futher they will see it's a wood stove and hopefully check you off their list!
good luck bro!

TT

lol, if they "look into it further" they'll see you have a wood stove, and a grow when the serve the warrant.

What, you think they'll come to the door and ask, "Hey, we spotted a hot exhaust on FLIR that looks suspicious, can you explain it away for us so we can check you off our list."

 

[BlindDate]

The police have probably been watching you for months already. The setup gives out a very specific heat signature. I'ml 100% certain that they are waiting for the cycle to finish before moving in on a bust. Basically you are screwed at this point as your house is surely under 24 hour surveillance. If I were you I would tear down the grow, cut up the plants into tiny flush-able pieces and let that be a lesson to you.

 

[il19z8rn4li1]

The police have probably been watching you for months already. The setup gives out a very specific heat signature. I'ml 100% certain that they are waiting for the cycle to finish before moving in on a bust. Basically you are screwed at this point as your house is surely under 24 hour surveillance. If I were you I would tear down the grow, cut up the plants into tiny flush-able pieces and let that be a lesson to you.

^^^ hahaha


On Point..

Correct me if im wrong.. but I have done some reading and study regarding IR readings and FLIR about a year ago when I was also concerned about the signature that I would be creating.

Well.. to be frank from what I have seen personally and what I have seen in videos, IR can NOT penetrate THROUGH solid object.. IE: IR doesnt act as an X-RAY.

IR detects HEAT Signatures and that is only signatures at the surface of an item.

SO... If your wall of your garage is same TEMP as the air outside the garage... your wall will read a signature the same as the surrounding OUTSIDE temp..
THIS IS GOAL and what one would want to be true.

SEE though.. if your grow was to HEAT the walls of your garage.. to make them WARMER then the surround outside conditions.. then of course this reading will display a very visible difference on an IR Camera.


The main thing you need to worry about is HOT SPOTS...
Meaning... if you have an entire wall that is BLUE on IR...
but then you got a single spot that is RED and that is representing the size and shape of what ever it is that might be heating up that HOT SPOT.

What I like to do and make sure is that the growing area be insulted so that its heat does not effect the surfaces of anything else
that is near the outside of the grow area. Especially if that outside area is in contact with an OUTSIDE wall of your house or garage.


But for as much as I know about IR.. I am pretty sure that its not an X-Ray effect that most people think it is.

Im sure you seen stuff in movies where a sniper had some IR camera or cops have some IR camera to see the location of persons inside a building in order to shoot them or enter the building.

Well this is Hollywood 100%.. biggest thing I laugh about is when they show IR through windows... first off... if you aim IR at a window... youll get an IR reading of the object that is reflected in the window... not a reading of the window itself.. OR it will simply give NO reading and will be black on the camera.

but as for seeing heat signatures BEHIND walls and objects in a X-Ray fashion.. isnt true.

but i could be mistaken :-D