15k sealed room start to finish building.

[Dr.Dank]

Hello Fellow ICMAG I'm in the process of building my Legal 15k sealed room light show and need some tips if possible.
Im in California and happy to be here thank you!
I was thinking on a 5 ton water cooled ac to cool the room, My room is 40ft by 10ft high and got plenty of room to play around.
What is the best possible AIR CONDITIONER for my situation? if you can post a link or PM me id love you.
Im not air cooling any lights and will supplement CO2 to my room at 1500ppm.
Was looking at kwikool ac? any thoughts? thanks again

 

[Dislexus]

Get a mini-split ac (ductless ac) that can handle multiple units and spread them around the room.

But if the compressor goes out you're screwed hmm.. maybe get two.

This will be pimp!

I have a fetish for sealed room construction diaries... oh yeah get it airtight baby uuunnnnnhhhhh

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea im also interested in how your going to do this....40ft and 15 lights is a nice sized project something im sure most of us 5 light guys want to do someday..man that would give me some breathing room to play around with all these strains!

 

[NorCalHal1]

5 ton AC and put the Airhandler/furnace hung directly in your grow room hung from the ceiling with unistrut. Mini split won't handle Cali summers...

 

[Sam the Caveman]

If you appropriate 5k btu's per light, thats 75k btu's. A 5 ton is only 60k btu's. I'd say get a 5 ton and a 2 ton inverter mini split.

 

[joe fresh]

I would say get 2 thermoplus 3.5 ton watercooled a/c's....runs for about 6500 plus shipping....not much more than a 5 ton and a bit cheaper than sams idea I think...and I used these to cool 19 lights open batwing style...was able to get temps down to 21C if I wanted to.... Ill look for the link and post it up....

 

[BigDawg]

seems like a 5 ton would work if its properly insulated and sealed good. Might want to think abotu using a lung room and flipping the lights (2 sep flower rooms)

 

[Dr.Dank]

Hey guys thanks for the input! Joe Fresh if you can post a link that would be killer thank you! that would be great since eventually i could add more lights if needed.
will the two 3.5 ton ac together run me 6500+shipping??? or separate?
I believe in florida we used something called "Climate Control" water cooled AC that did awesome and only cost at max 2,400... I cant seem to find em anywhere tho.
Im doing planning and maybe tomorrow go buy a bunch of wood and styrofoam boards to get this thing started... im gonna insulate this thing all the way.
temps here are 108 105 102 on this hot days.... high 90s on the regular.

 

[joe fresh]

The 6500 plus shipping was for both units....the reason I like these units is they are 100% plug-n-play...just plug your water inlet and outlet, and a thermostat, that's all...obviously you have to run 240v wire to power the thing...lol

http://www.thermoplus.com/dev/html_en/page_2_001.asp

That's the link...check out they're catalog....see what's right for you....


And on another note....samthecaveman. Was partially right when saying a 1k light takes 5000 btu to cool, actually it takes aprox 3200 btu to cool the bulb, and around 1500 btu to cool the ballast....so if you put your ballasts in a separate room then it will help a lot with cooling issues

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

5 ton AC and put the Airhandler/furnace hung directly in your grow room hung from the ceiling with unistrut. Mini split won't handle Cali summers...

Yes, mini splits can handle the Summers in California. I am not sure why one would think that they can not handle the summers here. Where I am it got up to 118F and my mini split worked awesome. My wife has said that we have started saving about 100$ a month since I swapped my main house's ac to mini split.

 

[mg75]

thermoplus is the shit!
invest in your AC first... it is the heart of the operation.

 

[Douche_Bigalow]

thermoplus is the shit!
invest in your AC first... it is the heart of the operation.

I wish I had seen these before I went to Mexico and got my Mini-split. I searched for 3 weeks trying to sniff out a great A/C..I could not find one for under 2700$. I then went to Mexico (I live very very close to the Mexican boarder.) and bought one brand new. I wont tell you how much I paid but it was between 760$-1500$. The only difference is that the wire colors were different. You would be amazed at how easy it is to get a Mexican sparky to come explain it to me. The hardest part was not driving to Mexico, If you get in a wreck in Mexico you both go to jail and I did not have Mexican insurance (not pulling the race card here...They really do call it Mexican insurance.).This made me have to carry the unit to the boarder then it took three trips back and forth to get it in the country. The three trips (four if you count the trip back to pay my Mexican guide) Only took about thirty min. The lines were not that long and I am white so they never inspect anything I have. (Now I am pulling the race card).

It is not a plug and play like yours but it only took running the power to it and then I had to add a pound of R-22 to it. Easy for sure. Sorry for the rambling.

Also, you are correct the A/C is the heart of almost any set up. I could not start to convert my room from what it was to the grow spot until I got the A/C. The one the OP has posted is Sexy as hell.

 

[BigDawg]

do those thermo plus units use a lot of water

 

[Hydrosun]

Hello Fellow ICMAG I'm in the process of building my Legal 15k sealed room light show and need some tips if possible.
Im in California and happy to be here thank you!
I was thinking on a 5 ton water cooled ac to cool the room, My room is 40ft by 10ft high and got plenty of room to play around.
What is the best possible AIR CONDITIONER for my situation? if you can post a link or PM me id love you.
Im not air cooling any lights and will supplement CO2 to my room at 1500ppm.
Was looking at kwikool ac? any thoughts? thanks again

40' by ??' with 10' ceilings.

I used water cooled 5ton AC and would suggest that you have the water line to the AC off of a RO feed. The dissolved solids in the tap water killed my AC years ahead of schedule.

 

[budleydoright]

40' by ??' with 10' ceilings.

I used water cooled 5ton AC and would suggest that you have the water line to the AC off of a RO feed. The dissolved solids in the tap water killed my AC years ahead of schedule.

RO will disolve your solids! Carefull.

 

[mg75]

they sell water softeners especially for water-cooled ACs if your water is really hard. technically you can re-use the water from any AC and dehumidifiers. recycling the water is a little bit of a challenge, but will pay off for itself.
the thermoplus will not dehumidify your area, but is the ultimate stealth unit as there is no unit outside to make noise or run in the winter when everyone is using heat.
most of the serious british columbia grow rooms are sealed and use thermoplus ACs.
and yes, they do use a considerable amount of water when cooling the compressor. just remember that the compressor will not be running all the time if the unit is a little oversized for the room.

 

[budleydoright]

Why would it not dehumidify? it still works like any other AC, just the hot side uses water instead of air to take the heat away. Will still dry the air as long as its running.

 

[BigDawg]

a 5 ton watercooled thermo plus A/C uses 4.5 gallons of water per minute. That's with 60 degree Fahrenheit water temp

way tooo much

 

[mg75]

Why would it not dehumidify? it still works like any other AC, just the hot side uses water instead of air to take the heat away. Will still dry the air as long as its running.

none of their literature mentions de-humidification. they have a drain pan which i suspect is not too large for a continual removal of water from the air. i am sure they would of included the benefits of a dehumidifier in their sales catalog. units may dehumidify somewhat by drying the air, but i believe you would need a serious commercial dehumidifier (100 pints plus) as an add on. i did not see a connection to a condensate pump as well.

 

[Hydrosun]

Why would it not dehumidify? it still works like any other AC, just the hot side uses water instead of air to take the heat away. Will still dry the air as long as its running.

The cool coil draws moisture out of the air.

The water trickled over the heat exchange to to cool the unit puts the water back into the air through evaporation.

The exact gain or loss in RH should be minimal.