Best non aircooled reflector?
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TREE KING
good question. it seems like people talk mostly about the air cooled ones
GrowForIt
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Bang...there it is...I ran these for a long time they are great.Just don't be disappointed when you first see one, when I bought my first one in 2000 I was like wtf...boy did I get ripped off....but after firing it up I knew I made the right choice.
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TREE KING
thats air cooled though. this thread is about non air cooled
GrowForIt
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No a PL Deep isn't air cooled unless you buy the air cooled shroud for it, if they were air cooled I'd still be running them.
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TREE KING
No a PL Deep isn't air cooled unless you buy the air cooled shroud for it, if they were air cooled I'd still be running them.
o ok. by looking at it, it doesnt seem like it would spread the light out good cause its shaped like a cube. is it an even canopy on a 4' by 4' space?
GrowForIt
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Yea you are most likely looking at one in the air cooled shroud, the reflector is domed shaped and kinda reminded me of a street light when I first seen it. If I remember correctly it covers a 3x3 area perfectly at 18" and a 4x4 perfectly at 24". It's been a while since I purchased them so I could be off with the 18" and 24" it could be 24" and 30" but the pl deep puts out a perfect square. I used them over 3'x3' flood trays for 10 years until I decided to jump on the air cooled bandwagon.
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adjustable wing!
If you've got at least 4"x4" and good ceiling height then this is the one:
SunSoaker
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Sunsoaker-Reflector.asp
Ojo
SunSoaker
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Sunsoaker-Reflector.asp
Ojo
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TREE KING
hmmmm interesting. can you give us some more info on this one? have you compared the Sunsoaker to other reflectors? this actually looks good to cover a 5 x 5 space which is what i need to do
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Hello TK,
I do have 2 of these reflectors, using a 600W HPS you have a very nice and even footprint.
You can see plants shooting straight up and not bending, looking for hot spots.
These reflectors do not waist any light, Adjust A Wings tend to shoot too much horizontally.
Girls LOVE SunSoakers.
Ojo
Hello TK,
I do have 2 of these reflectors, using a 600W HPS you have a very nice and even footprint.
You can see plants shooting straight up and not bending, looking for hot spots.
These reflectors do not waist any light, Adjust A Wings tend to shoot too much horizontally.
Girls LOVE SunSoakers.
Ojo
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TREE KING
thanks for the info ojo. i think im gonna try one of these out, that is unless a whole bunch of people come on here and start saying they suck but if your right they wont
They are good!
Another thing is that you can take them apart and transport them without any suspicion.
Huge reflection surface that doubles as tent top... Heat is evenly distributed over a large area and NEVER goes to the plant area.
Put a 400W MH and you'll have a nice environment for a big mother or to harden seedlings.
Ojo
Another thing is that you can take them apart and transport them without any suspicion.
Huge reflection surface that doubles as tent top... Heat is evenly distributed over a large area and NEVER goes to the plant area.
Put a 400W MH and you'll have a nice environment for a big mother or to harden seedlings.
Ojo
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TREE KING
thats exactly what i was thinking, they seem good for a bunch of mothers on my 4 x 4 tray
So much depends on context.
I run industrial lowbay white enamel 23" reflectors designed for seamless lighting on assembly lines. They come with charts showing heights and spacing for various light levels. As expected, smooth shadowless bright light works on plants also. The context is multiple lights, these reflectors were designed to work together, no shadows, no hot spots, ideal for precision assembly of small components. I use 10 lights with the reflector edges overlapped an inch.
There are no reflectors that can turn a single light source into an evenly distributed skylight. The sun works because the earth spins.
Oops, just reread title, best, not perfect, single, not multi. I like the sunsoaker, I visited a growroom with a 1K in it. He had crowded 5 plants underneath with reasonable growth on all of them. Not how I would do it, but it was working better than all the previous single light reflectors he had tried.
I run industrial lowbay white enamel 23" reflectors designed for seamless lighting on assembly lines. They come with charts showing heights and spacing for various light levels. As expected, smooth shadowless bright light works on plants also. The context is multiple lights, these reflectors were designed to work together, no shadows, no hot spots, ideal for precision assembly of small components. I use 10 lights with the reflector edges overlapped an inch.
There are no reflectors that can turn a single light source into an evenly distributed skylight. The sun works because the earth spins.
Oops, just reread title, best, not perfect, single, not multi. I like the sunsoaker, I visited a growroom with a 1K in it. He had crowded 5 plants underneath with reasonable growth on all of them. Not how I would do it, but it was working better than all the previous single light reflectors he had tried.
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TREE KING
im glad you like the sunsoaker phaeton. i just bumped into the sun systems Vertizontal Reflector below also
http://www.greners.com/grow-lights/...flector/sun-system-vertizontal-reflector.html
but im guessing you all still like the sunsoaker better
http://www.greners.com/grow-lights/...flector/sun-system-vertizontal-reflector.html
but im guessing you all still like the sunsoaker better
Before answering the question I would look at the grow room: size and height.
When selecting a reflector I would look for:
1. Efficiency (reflector material - preferably Miro aluminum)
2. Uniformity and spread (reflector design)
3. Durability (built and also can you buy separate reflector plates or replacement reflectors?)
4. Results in the past (though they do not guarantee success in the future)
One of the possible options is the HortiStar 96% efficiency is about as good as it gets. If you want it adjustable TripleStar might be an option.
I like the wings too, but just in the deep position.
Another alternative is a Gavita internal reflector lamp: The reflector doesn't wear and you get a new one with every lamp. The spread from the IR lamp is very wide. Mind you the ones on the market in the US right now only work well with magnetic ballasts. an electronic one is on its way. Because the lamp is not enclosed there is less of a heat problem.
but I must confess I do have a sweet spot for Gavita
When selecting a reflector I would look for:
1. Efficiency (reflector material - preferably Miro aluminum)
2. Uniformity and spread (reflector design)
3. Durability (built and also can you buy separate reflector plates or replacement reflectors?)
4. Results in the past (though they do not guarantee success in the future)
One of the possible options is the HortiStar 96% efficiency is about as good as it gets. If you want it adjustable TripleStar might be an option.
I like the wings too, but just in the deep position.
Another alternative is a Gavita internal reflector lamp: The reflector doesn't wear and you get a new one with every lamp. The spread from the IR lamp is very wide. Mind you the ones on the market in the US right now only work well with magnetic ballasts. an electronic one is on its way. Because the lamp is not enclosed there is less of a heat problem.
but I must confess I do have a sweet spot for Gavita
